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On Thursday, March 28, 2019 at 10:37:52 AM UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/28/2019 10:07 AM, AK wrote: On Thursday, March 28, 2019 at 9:43:08 AM UTC-5, AMuzi wrote: On 3/28/2019 9:04 AM, AK wrote: I took my bike to a shop to have the shifter adjusted. Often when I shifted to a new gear, I would hear a clicking sound. The tech told me that my shifter cables were the metal type and that they stretched over time. They have new ones that do not stretch. I saw a video on replacing the cable and it looks like something I can do. What are your thoughts? None of that is true. Something happened, but not that. He also made some adjustments and lubed the chain with something that smelled terrible. Did it work well after? There are all sorts of lubricants and people like what they like but most work just fine for this application. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 Yes, the clicking sound stopped. Andy |
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On Thursday, March 28, 2019 at 11:27:08 AM UTC-5, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 3/28/2019 10:04 AM, AK wrote: I took my bike to a shop to have the shifter adjusted. Often when I shifted to a new gear, I would hear a clicking sound. The tech told me that my shifter cables were the metal type and that they stretched over time. They have new ones that do not stretch. I saw a video on replacing the cable and it looks like something I can do. What are your thoughts? Andrew and Jay have given your answers. I'll just add that I wonder where the "tech" guy got his ideas. It may be that he's like most guys, vulnerable to what Jobst used to call the "male answer syndrome" - just make something up based on whatever limited knowledge you may have, but never admit that you may not know. It also may be that he's got something he really wants to sell, and recognizes that he can snag people with a fanciful sales pitch. Metal bike cables do not stretch to any measurable degree. Other stuff can happen to them, but not measurable stretch. -- - Frank Krygowski He told me it would be expensive to replace the cable. So I don't think he was trying to sell me something. He charged $10 for the adjustment which I thought was fair. Andy |
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On 3/28/2019 3:04 PM, AK wrote:
On Thursday, March 28, 2019 at 11:27:08 AM UTC-5, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 3/28/2019 10:04 AM, AK wrote: I took my bike to a shop to have the shifter adjusted. Often when I shifted to a new gear, I would hear a clicking sound. The tech told me that my shifter cables were the metal type and that they stretched over time. They have new ones that do not stretch. I saw a video on replacing the cable and it looks like something I can do. What are your thoughts? Andrew and Jay have given your answers. I'll just add that I wonder where the "tech" guy got his ideas. It may be that he's like most guys, vulnerable to what Jobst used to call the "male answer syndrome" - just make something up based on whatever limited knowledge you may have, but never admit that you may not know. It also may be that he's got something he really wants to sell, and recognizes that he can snag people with a fanciful sales pitch. Metal bike cables do not stretch to any measurable degree. Other stuff can happen to them, but not measurable stretch. He told me it would be expensive to replace the cable. So I don't think he was trying to sell me something. He charged $10 for the adjustment which I thought was fair. Agreed. Such little happiness can be bought for $10 now. Anywhere. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 12:27:04 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote: On 3/28/2019 10:04 AM, AK wrote: I took my bike to a shop to have the shifter adjusted. Often when I shifted to a new gear, I would hear a clicking sound. The tech told me that my shifter cables were the metal type and that they stretched over time. They have new ones that do not stretch. I saw a video on replacing the cable and it looks like something I can do. What are your thoughts? Andrew and Jay have given your answers. I'll just add that I wonder where the "tech" guy got his ideas. It may be that he's like most guys, vulnerable to what Jobst used to call the "male answer syndrome" - just make something up based on whatever limited knowledge you may have, but never admit that you may not know. It also may be that he's got something he really wants to sell, and recognizes that he can snag people with a fanciful sales pitch. Metal bike cables do not stretch to any measurable degree. Other stuff can happen to them, but not measurable stretch. While shift cables probably don't stretch, per se, I have noticed that after installing a new cable and adjusting the shifting on the stand that quite often after riding the bike for a few miles the shifters, i.e. cables, require a bit of adjustment, usually tightening a click or two on the adjustment. -- cheers, John B. |
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On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 13:04:44 -0700 (PDT), AK
wrote: On Thursday, March 28, 2019 at 11:27:08 AM UTC-5, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 3/28/2019 10:04 AM, AK wrote: I took my bike to a shop to have the shifter adjusted. Often when I shifted to a new gear, I would hear a clicking sound. The tech told me that my shifter cables were the metal type and that they stretched over time. They have new ones that do not stretch. I saw a video on replacing the cable and it looks like something I can do. What are your thoughts? Andrew and Jay have given your answers. I'll just add that I wonder where the "tech" guy got his ideas. It may be that he's like most guys, vulnerable to what Jobst used to call the "male answer syndrome" - just make something up based on whatever limited knowledge you may have, but never admit that you may not know. It also may be that he's got something he really wants to sell, and recognizes that he can snag people with a fanciful sales pitch. Metal bike cables do not stretch to any measurable degree. Other stuff can happen to them, but not measurable stretch. -- - Frank Krygowski He told me it would be expensive to replace the cable. So I don't think he was trying to sell me something. He charged $10 for the adjustment which I thought was fair. Andy Well, in California the minimum salary is, I believe, $12/hour so $10 is nearly an hour's wages for a job that probably takes 10 minutes, call it 15 minutes, that would be $40 an hour. Fair? -- cheers, John B. |
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On Thursday, March 28, 2019 at 5:48:16 PM UTC-5, Frank Krygowski wrote:
The tech told me that my shifter cables were the metal type and that they stretched over time. They have new ones that do not stretch. Metal bike cables do not stretch to any measurable degree. Other stuff can happen to them, but not measurable stretch. While shift cables probably don't stretch, per se, I have noticed that after installing a new cable and adjusting the shifting on the stand that quite often after riding the bike for a few miles the shifters, i.e. cables, require a bit of adjustment, usually tightening a click or two on the adjustment. Yes, I've noticed that too. I believe it comes from the cable taking several shifting cycles to settle into its equilibrium position in the housing where it goes around curves. - Frank Krygowski This^^ As the cable inner "beds in" to the plastic lining the outer sheath, around curves, the inner becomes relatively longer in relation to the sheath. After initial settling in has occurred and been compensated for, things can be quite stable for a long time. Metal cable inners (and AFAIK they're *all* metal) can stretch slightly, but as they're subjected to tension well below their elastic limit, the stretch is completely reversible and doesn't amount to much. |
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On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 13:04:44 -0700 (PDT), AK wrote: On Thursday, March 28, 2019 at 11:27:08 AM UTC-5, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 3/28/2019 10:04 AM, AK wrote: I took my bike to a shop to have the shifter adjusted. Often when I shifted to a new gear, I would hear a clicking sound. The tech told me that my shifter cables were the metal type and that they stretched over time. They have new ones that do not stretch. I saw a video on replacing the cable and it looks like something I can do. What are your thoughts? Andrew and Jay have given your answers. I'll just add that I wonder where the "tech" guy got his ideas. It may be that he's like most guys, vulnerable to what Jobst used to call the "male answer syndrome" - just make something up based on whatever limited knowledge you may have, but never admit that you may not know. It also may be that he's got something he really wants to sell, and recognizes that he can snag people with a fanciful sales pitch. Metal bike cables do not stretch to any measurable degree. Other stuff can happen to them, but not measurable stretch. -- - Frank Krygowski He told me it would be expensive to replace the cable. So I don't think he was trying to sell me something. He charged $10 for the adjustment which I thought was fair. Andy Well, in California the minimum salary is, I believe, $12/hour so $10 is nearly an hour's wages for a job that probably takes 10 minutes, call it 15 minutes, that would be $40 an hour. Fair? -- cheers, John B. Except if it's a shop, there's overheads. Typical rule of thumb is that an employee costs twice what you pay them, so it's a half hour's costs for a job that takes 10 minutes. |
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