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Motorists not welcome
On 22/04/2019 01:08, JNugent wrote:
On 22/04/2019 00:23, Simon Jester wrote: On Sunday, April 21, 2019 at 11:50:47 PM UTC+1, JNugent wrote: On 21/04/2019 21:50, Simon Jester wrote: On Sunday, April 21, 2019 at 8:37:10 PM UTC+1, JNugent wrote: On 21/04/2019 20:27, Rob Morley wrote: Simon Jester wrote: I ride a Dawes Karakum which is comfortable but heavy. Hub dynamo, magura rim brakes and a rear rack. I use a right pannier with puncture kit, tube, tool kit. Commuting adds wallet, phone, ID card and clothing. Sometimes I have been tempted to add a copy of the Highway Code to show to motorists who insist cyclists are required by law to use cycle paths but ASL's are optional for bus and taxi drivers. I've considered printing out a few of the sections that the more egregiously ignorant motorists need to understand, so I can just stick them in a window or under a wiper, the better to inform them of their error. That's an idea. And perhaps it would be an idea to have some printed copies of Rule 168: "... If a driver is trying to overtake you, maintain a steady course and speed, *slowing* *down* if necessary to let the vehicle pass. *Never* *obstruct* drivers who wish to pass..." Just like all the motorists didn't do in this vid. [snip video URL unwatched] *Everybody* should obey that one. That certainly includes lorry drivers and cyclists. So you 'think' you know what is in the video without watching it? In context, you either: (a) made that clear enough in your description (in which case the contents of the video don't need to be seen for practical purposes), or (b) you were talking out of some inappropriate orifice. Which one was it? I'll go along with whichever one of the two you choose. You SHOULD watch that video. -- Bod --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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On 22/04/2019 08:52, Bod wrote:
On 22/04/2019 01:08, JNugent wrote: On 22/04/2019 00:23, Simon Jester wrote: On Sunday, April 21, 2019 at 11:50:47 PM UTC+1, JNugent wrote: On 21/04/2019 21:50, Simon Jester wrote: On Sunday, April 21, 2019 at 8:37:10 PM UTC+1, JNugent wrote: On 21/04/2019 20:27, Rob Morley wrote: Simon Jester wrote: I ride a Dawes Karakum which is comfortable but heavy. Hub dynamo, magura rim brakes and a rear rack. I use a right pannier with puncture kit, tube, tool kit. Commuting adds wallet, phone, ID card and clothing. Sometimes I have been tempted to add a copy of the Highway Code to show to motorists who insist cyclists are required by law to use cycle paths but ASL's are optional for bus and taxi drivers. I've considered printing out a few of the sections that the more egregiously ignorant motorists need to understand, so I can just stick them in a window or under a wiper, the better to inform them of their error. That's an idea. And perhaps it would be an idea to have some printed copies of Rule 168: "... If a driver is trying to overtake you, maintain a steady course and speed, *slowing* *down* if necessary to let the vehicle pass. *Never* *obstruct* drivers who wish to pass..." Just like all the motorists didn't do in this vid. [snip video URL unwatched] *Everybody* should obey that one. That certainly includes lorry drivers and cyclists. So you 'think' you know what is in the video without watching it? In context, you either: (a) made that clear enough in your description (in which case the contents of the video don't need to be seen for practical purposes), or (b) you were talking out of some inappropriate orifice. Which one was it? I'll go along with whichever one of the two you choose. You SHOULD watch that video. I don't think so. I have seen plenty of videos of terrible cycling and terrible driving. I don't need to see more. |
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On Mon, 22 Apr 2019 08:51:28 +0100
Bod wrote: I agree, EVERYBODY should watch that video so they can see the type of idiots on bicycles who give decent cyclists a bad name. I've never seen such irresponsible cycling as that. Mental! Crazy cycle messenger behaviour has its roots in New York because of the city's semi-gridlocked traffic. Companies in e.g. advertising and legal business needed to move work around quickly and messengers could make a lot of money if they made many deliveries quickly, which involved illegal and dangerous riding of their specialised bikes. Some people think this is a cool way to behave, like that kid who got jailed for killing a woman because he had no front brake (at least he wasn't on the pavement). I imagine there's rather less demand for that sort of service since everything's digital and online now. |
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On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 11:53:28 AM UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
On 22/04/2019 08:52, Bod wrote: On 22/04/2019 01:08, JNugent wrote: On 22/04/2019 00:23, Simon Jester wrote: On Sunday, April 21, 2019 at 11:50:47 PM UTC+1, JNugent wrote: On 21/04/2019 21:50, Simon Jester wrote: On Sunday, April 21, 2019 at 8:37:10 PM UTC+1, JNugent wrote: On 21/04/2019 20:27, Rob Morley wrote: Simon Jester wrote: I ride a Dawes Karakum which is comfortable but heavy. Hub dynamo, magura rim brakes and a rear rack. I use a right pannier with puncture kit, tube, tool kit. Commuting adds wallet, phone, ID card and clothing. Sometimes I have been tempted to add a copy of the Highway Code to show to motorists who insist cyclists are required by law to use cycle paths but ASL's are optional for bus and taxi drivers. I've considered printing out a few of the sections that the more egregiously ignorant motorists need to understand, so I can just stick them in a window or under a wiper, the better to inform them of their error. That's an idea. And perhaps it would be an idea to have some printed copies of Rule 168: "... If a driver is trying to overtake you, maintain a steady course and speed, *slowing* *down* if necessary to let the vehicle pass. *Never* *obstruct* drivers who wish to pass..." Just like all the motorists didn't do in this vid. [snip video URL unwatched] *Everybody* should obey that one. That certainly includes lorry drivers and cyclists. So you 'think' you know what is in the video without watching it? In context, you either: (a) made that clear enough in your description (in which case the contents of the video don't need to be seen for practical purposes), or (b) you were talking out of some inappropriate orifice. Which one was it? I'll go along with whichever one of the two you choose. You SHOULD watch that video. I don't think so. I have seen plenty of videos of terrible cycling and terrible driving. I don't need to see more. Someone else should cite this link in another thread. Nugent only refuses to watch it because I posted it and 'He' is to childish to apologise whenever I prove 'Him' wrong. |
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On 22/04/2019 20:00, Simon Jester wrote:
On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 11:53:28 AM UTC+1, JNugent wrote: On 22/04/2019 08:52, Bod wrote: On 22/04/2019 01:08, JNugent wrote: On 22/04/2019 00:23, Simon Jester wrote: On Sunday, April 21, 2019 at 11:50:47 PM UTC+1, JNugent wrote: On 21/04/2019 21:50, Simon Jester wrote: On Sunday, April 21, 2019 at 8:37:10 PM UTC+1, JNugent wrote: On 21/04/2019 20:27, Rob Morley wrote: Simon Jester wrote: I ride a Dawes Karakum which is comfortable but heavy. Hub dynamo, magura rim brakes and a rear rack. I use a right pannier with puncture kit, tube, tool kit. Commuting adds wallet, phone, ID card and clothing. Sometimes I have been tempted to add a copy of the Highway Code to show to motorists who insist cyclists are required by law to use cycle paths but ASL's are optional for bus and taxi drivers. I've considered printing out a few of the sections that the more egregiously ignorant motorists need to understand, so I can just stick them in a window or under a wiper, the better to inform them of their error. That's an idea. And perhaps it would be an idea to have some printed copies of Rule 168: "... If a driver is trying to overtake you, maintain a steady course and speed, *slowing* *down* if necessary to let the vehicle pass. *Never* *obstruct* drivers who wish to pass..." Just like all the motorists didn't do in this vid. [snip video URL unwatched] *Everybody* should obey that one. That certainly includes lorry drivers and cyclists. So you 'think' you know what is in the video without watching it? In context, you either: (a) made that clear enough in your description (in which case the contents of the video don't need to be seen for practical purposes), or (b) you were talking out of some inappropriate orifice. Which one was it? I'll go along with whichever one of the two you choose. You SHOULD watch that video. I don't think so. I have seen plenty of videos of terrible cycling and terrible driving. I don't need to see more. Someone else should cite this link in another thread. Nugent only refuses to watch it because I posted it and 'He' is to childish to apologise whenever I prove 'Him' wrong. Either it shows terrible cycling and/or driving or it doesn't. Either you were right when you said "Just like all the motorists didn't do [ie, drive with due consideration for other road-users] in this vid" or you weren't. But what does it matter? There are thousands - probably tens of thousands - of videos of terrible driving and cycling out there on YouTube and similar sites. Who needs to see more? Apart from you, I mean (obviously). |
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