Burley trailer use with baby and toddler

In ,
(TimW) opined:

Anyone in the same situation interested? don't want to waste time
doing something no-one wants !!!!

My Burley Solo carries a specific warning not to install a car seat.
Does the D'lite not have a similar one, or did you just ignore it?

I know -I- wouldn't want to be the subject of a sentence like "I
downloaded the instructions from this guy on the Internet, so it must be
safe!"

I think that people who can't find their own way down this path should
not be encouraged to head in this direction.


--
Dave Salovesh

In article ,
Dave Salovesh wrote:

In ,
(TimW) opined:

Anyone in the same situation interested? don't want to waste time
doing something no-one wants !!!!

My Burley Solo carries a specific warning not to install a car seat.
Does the D'lite not have a similar one, or did you just ignore it?

These instructions also say not to pull the trailer behind a car.

You can strictly follow the guidelines written by the Burley lawyers or
you can use common sense. How exactly is a car seat secured to a burley
less safe than without?

The reason this warning is there is because of the possibility of some
idiot just setting a car seat unsecured in the trailer...no written
warning and this idiot can sue burley and probably win...there's no
other reason.


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Sparks wrote:
You can strictly follow the guidelines written by the Burley lawyers or
you can use common sense. How exactly is a car seat secured to a burley
less safe than without?

The reason this warning is there is because of the possibility of some
idiot just setting a car seat unsecured in the trailer...no written
warning and this idiot can sue burley and probably win...there's no
other reason.

It might be a hidden hazard, which they would do better to explain than not.

In particular, the roughness of the ride increases dramatically if the
child is lightweight. His mass does not diminish shocks by making the
suspension take them up, like a larger child.

The suspension is designed for a specific weight range. Too heavy compresses
it too much and too light never enables it.

The suspension in this case is the padding from seats and support.

So watch out for shaken baby syndrome.
--
Ron Hardin


On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.

In article ,
Ron Hardin wrote:

So watch out for shaken baby syndrome.

are you serious or just spreading misinformation? Oh I forgot, this is
usenet...it's the latter.

to the first poster: I ride a couple days a week with my 8 month old
strapped in my Burley Cub. She loves riding around and the ride is
pretty smooth (on and off road). Once she was sitting up pretty well
on her own and had good head control we started using it. It's alot of
fun and good for me on those "recovery" days after racing.


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Sparks wrote:

In article ,
Ron Hardin wrote:

So watch out for shaken baby syndrome.

are you serious or just spreading misinformation? Oh I forgot, this is
usenet...it's the latter.

Nah. I reckon he's an american lawyer.

to the first poster: I ride a couple days a week with my 8 month old
strapped in my Burley Cub. She loves riding around and the ride is
pretty smooth (on and off road).

All our children were introduced to the cycling world in a Burley d'Lite.

I think I failed tho. - my eldest rode away from me on the last hill
before home this afternoon :-(

John B

In article ,
Sparks wrote:
I ride a couple days a week with my 8 month old
strapped in my Burley Cub. She loves riding around and the ride is
pretty smooth (on and off road). Once she was sitting up pretty well
on her own and had good head control we started using it. It's alot of
fun and good for me on those "recovery" days after racing.

The Burley Cub is the best trailer I have ever used.

--
A T (Sandy) Morton
on the Bicycle Island
In the Global Village
http://www.sandymillport.fsnet.co.uk

In ,
Sparks opined:

You can strictly follow the guidelines written by the Burley lawyers or
you can use common sense. How exactly is a car seat secured to a burley
less safe than without?

I never said it was.

All I was saying was that if you can't figure out how to do it on your
own, you probably haven't put enough thought into it to know if someone
else's instructions are safe or not, and finally, no, we shouldn't put
people in the position where it's easier to do something than it is to
understand it.

But if that isn't clear to you, this probably won't be either:

What sort of instructions does one write to help people who don't follow
instructions? What sort of common-sense warnings would they heed if
they won't heed the one that says not to do it in the first place?

The reason this warning is there is because of the possibility of some
idiot just setting a car seat unsecured in the trailer...no written
warning and this idiot can sue burley and probably win...there's no
other reason.

Remember folks, this is from a person who claims that if it's on USENET
it's mis-information. Apparently s/he's the only exception...

Oh well.


--
Dave Salovesh

"Ron Hardin" wrote in message
...
Sparks wrote:
You can strictly follow the guidelines written by the Burley lawyers or
you can use common sense. How exactly is a car seat secured to a burley
less safe than without?

The reason this warning is there is because of the possibility of some
idiot just setting a car seat unsecured in the trailer...no written
warning and this idiot can sue burley and probably win...there's no
other reason.

It might be a hidden hazard, which they would do better to explain than
not.

In particular, the roughness of the ride increases dramatically if the
child is lightweight. His mass does not diminish shocks by making the
suspension take them up, like a larger child.

The suspension is designed for a specific weight range. Too heavy
compresses
it too much and too light never enables it.

So a 30 pound child is okay, but a 10 pound car seat plus a 20 pound
child is too heavy?

I put a car seat in my d'lite, but it essentially took up the whole trailer.
It was fastened securely to the trailer, not just placed in there. I suspect
that Burley is worried about people not securing the car seat to the
trailer.

"Ron Hardin" wrote in message
...
Sparks wrote:
You can strictly follow the guidelines written by the Burley lawyers or
you can use common sense. How exactly is a car seat secured to a burley
less safe than without?

The reason this warning is there is because of the possibility of some
idiot just setting a car seat unsecured in the trailer...no written
warning and this idiot can sue burley and probably win...there's no
other reason.

It might be a hidden hazard, which they would do better to explain than
not.

In particular, the roughness of the ride increases dramatically if the
child is lightweight. His mass does not diminish shocks by making the
suspension take them up, like a larger child.

The suspension is designed for a specific weight range. Too heavy
compresses
it too much and too light never enables it.

So a 30 pound child is okay, but a 10 pound car seat plus a 20 pound
child is too heavy?

I put a car seat in my d'lite, but it essentially took up the whole trailer.
It was fastened securely to the trailer, not just placed in there. I suspect
that Burley is worried about people not securing the car seat to the
trailer.