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In article .com,
says...

Ted wrote:
In article 1109635385.7b93c2ed1a60189832cd992142e1b0a9@teran ews,
Diablo Scott wrote:

Praise be to Allah, a fellow pedant!

1. It's only "gruppo" in Italy or if you are a poseur. Otherwise, in
English-speaking environs, it's "group".

2. Yep.

3. It's only "derailleur" if you happen to be speaking French.
"Derailer" is the English word, and a better one, because the word
explains what it does.


Where did you get this information? "Derailer" is the Sheldon Brown
word. No one else has ever used the word "derailer" to describe a
bicycle derailleur except Sheldon Brown. If you go to an English
dictionary, you will find the word derailleur listed. You will not
find the word "derailer". "Derailer" is not an English word. It is a
made up word.
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/derailer.html

To further the pedantry...

Aren't all words made up?

--
Greg Estep

On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 01:26:08 GMT, Greg Estep
wrote:

In article .com,
says...

Ted wrote:
In article 1109635385.7b93c2ed1a60189832cd992142e1b0a9@teran ews,
Diablo Scott wrote:

Praise be to Allah, a fellow pedant!

1. It's only "gruppo" in Italy or if you are a poseur. Otherwise, in
English-speaking environs, it's "group".

2. Yep.

3. It's only "derailleur" if you happen to be speaking French.
"Derailer" is the English word, and a better one, because the word
explains what it does.


Where did you get this information? "Derailer" is the Sheldon Brown
word. No one else has ever used the word "derailer" to describe a
bicycle derailleur except Sheldon Brown. If you go to an English
dictionary, you will find the word derailleur listed. You will not
find the word "derailer". "Derailer" is not an English word. It is a
made up word.
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/derailer.html

To further the pedantry...

Aren't all words made up?

Dear Greg,

Beware!

There are some doors that man was never meant to open.

At some point, liberty becomes license. (Usually a couple of
pages further into the dictionary.)

SEAL, n. A mark impressed upon certain kinds of documents
to attest their authenticity and authority. Sometimes it is
stamped upon wax, and attached to the paper, sometimes into
the paper itself. Sealing, in this sense, is a survival of
an ancient custom of inscribing important papers with
cabalistic words or signs to give them a magical efficacy
independent of the authority that they represent. In the
British museum are preserved many ancient papers, mostly of
a sacerdotal character, validated by necromantic pentagrams
and other devices, frequently initial letters of words to
conjure with; and in many instances these are attached in
the same way that seals are appended now. As nearly every
reasonless and apparently meaningless custom, rite or
observance of modern times had origin in some remote
utility, it is pleasing to note an example of ancient
nonsense evolving in the process of ages into something
really useful. Our word "sincere" is derived from _sine
cero_, without wax, but the learned are not in agreement as
to whether this refers to the absence of the cabalistic
signs, or to that of the wax with which letters were
formerly closed from public scrutiny. Either view of the
matter will serve one in immediate need of an hypothesis.
The initials L.S., commonly appended to signatures of legal
documents, mean _locum sigillis_, the place of the seal,
although the seal is no longer used -- an admirable example
of conservatism distinguishing Man from the beasts that
perish. The words _locum sigillis_ are humbly suggested
as a suitable motto for the Pribyloff Islands whenever they
shall take their place as a sovereign State of the American
Union.
--Bierce

Without-wax,

Carl Fogel

Sheldon Brown wrote:

A quick Google search finds 29,000 references to "derailer." I'm a
prolific poster, but not _that_ prolific.

Only 2350 hits for "stokid" a word I did actually make up, as opposed
to
"derailleur/derailer" where I'm trying (with considerable success)
to
change the standard spelling.

Sheldon "It Seems To Be Working..." Brown

Personally, I prefer "chain shifter thingy", but I don't think it'll
catch on.

Jeff "Pedantic Iambeter" Wills