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What makes a bicycle-safe drive-up window?
On Feb 5, 9:54 pm, wrote:
A question's come up regarding zoning requirements, to try to ensure safe bicyclist access to drive-up windows. A person who's pushing for that requirement was told that "safe bicyclist access" is probably too vague to be meaningful or enforceable. I find this topic quite amusing. My local bank, which I frequent with some regularity on my bicycle, removed its pedestrian and wheelchair friendly ATM station some years ago leaving only the drive up. The drive up ATM, to comply with the Americans with Disabilities Act, has Braille instruction. From the way the drivers often behave when I am in line on my cycle ahead of them, the Braille is needed. They'll honk and yell for me to use the walk-up. There is no walk-up. The drive through is also the walk-up window. At least there are speed bumps, but I pity the blind wheelchair user who must navigate over them before searching for the Braille instruction on ATM use. I wonder if the drivers honk at wheelchairs. I'd say if you want a bicycle safe-drive through, see to it that every bank has a walk up window on a sidewalk or pedestrian area. That should make it safer for pedestrians, cyclists, and the handicapped until the SUV owners start using their offroad capabilities to drive on sidwalks to avoid congestion on the streets and highways. Cheers, MD |
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What makes a bicycle-safe drive-up window?
On Feb 8, 1:26 pm, " wrote:
On Feb 5, 9:54 pm, wrote: A question's come up regarding zoning requirements, to try to ensure safe bicyclist access to drive-up windows. A person who's pushing for that requirement was told that "safe bicyclist access" is probably too vague to be meaningful or enforceable. I find this topic quite amusing. My local bank, which I frequent with some regularity on my bicycle, removed its pedestrian and wheelchair friendly ATM station some years ago leaving only the drive up. The drive up ATM, to comply with the Americans with Disabilities Act, has Braille instruction. I'd wager that the ATM had braile even when there was a walk-up. The drive-thru ATMs have braile because it's cheaper to make a million of the same than 500,000 with and 500,000 without. From the way the drivers often behave when I am in line on my cycle ahead of them, the Braille is needed. They'll honk and yell for me to use the walk-up. There is no walk-up. The drive through is also the walk-up window. At least there are speed bumps, but I pity the blind wheelchair user who must navigate over them before searching for the Braille instruction on ATM use. I wonder if the drivers honk at wheelchairs. Those less fortunate and/or able tend to get a pass. Do they honk at you before you're at the ATM, or when you're there? If they are honking saying "use the walk-up" before you get there, I suggest turning and saying "why don't you use the walk-up? It appears you're the one who needs the exercise, I powered my vehicle here with my own 2 legs". The only time I really see honking @ the ATM around here is when someone completes their transaction but insists on spending another 3 minutes putting everything in it's proper place before pulling away. In that case, I believe it's well deserved. Pull forward a car length, stop, and then get your 20 things situated just right while the person behind you is using the machine you're finished with. I'd say if you want a bicycle safe-drive through, see to it that every bank has a walk up window on a sidewalk or pedestrian area. Walk-up is often going to be less convient than drive-up for a cyclist. That should make it safer for pedestrians, cyclists, and the handicapped until the SUV owners start using their offroad capabilities to drive on sidwalks to avoid congestion on the streets and highways. We already do that in some situations |
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What makes a bicycle-safe drive-up window?
On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 10:55:05 -0800 (PST), "
wrote: I'd wager that the ATM had braile even when there was a walk-up. The drive-thru ATMs have braile because it's cheaper to make a million of the same than 500,000 with and 500,000 without. Dear Dank, Actually, braille was required by law: http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a4_010.html Cheers, Carl Fogel |
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What makes a bicycle-safe drive-up window?
On Feb 8, 2:28*pm, wrote:
On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 10:55:05 -0800 (PST), " wrote: I'd wager that the ATM had braile even when there was a walk-up. *The drive-thru ATMs have braile because it's cheaper to make a million of the same than 500,000 with and 500,000 without. Dear Dank, Actually, braille was required by law: *http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a4_010.html Cheers, Carl Fogel Interesting. It appears I stand corrected. I don't know where I heard the "less expensive than making 2 kinds" thing, but I've been of that impression for a long time. Thanks for the info, anyway. |
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What makes a bicycle-safe drive-up window?
On Feb 8, 2:28*pm, wrote:
On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 10:55:05 -0800 (PST), " wrote: I'd wager that the ATM had braile even when there was a walk-up. *The drive-thru ATMs have braile because it's cheaper to make a million of the same than 500,000 with and 500,000 without. Dear Dank, Actually, braille was required by law: *http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a4_010.html Cheers, Carl Fogel ahhhhahahhahaunghunghunghhahhahahsnort |
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