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Face to face: Trike vs. standard bike on expedition
"Sunset Lowracer [TM] Fanatic" wrote in message ups.com... Mark Leuck wrote: I have yet to see a fast trike[.] See http://home.pacifier.com/~jwills/vector/vector.htm for a fast trike. Of course the Vector would be practically unusable anywhere outside an oval track or closed highway. -- Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley I don't think you understand what I'm saying, I've never seen a fast trike, I never said they didn't exist. Up until BROL 2005 I never saw a fast recumbent either until Reynolds passed me on that faired monstrosity he has |
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Face to face: Trike vs. standard bike on expedition
Mark Leuck wrote: "Sunset Lowracer [TM] Fanatic" wrote in message ups.com... Mark Leuck wrote: I have yet to see a fast trike[.] See http://home.pacifier.com/~jwills/vector/vector.htm for a fast trike. Of course the Vector would be practically unusable anywhere outside an oval track or closed highway. I don't think you understand what I'm saying, I've never seen a fast trike, I never said they didn't exist. Up until BROL 2005 I never saw a fast recumbent either until Reynolds passed me on that faired monstrosity he has [.] Despite the lack of terminal punctuation, I understood what Mark Leuck was intending to say. However, I felt like posting the link to the picture of the Vector since it is a fast trike. -- Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley |
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Face to face: Trike vs. standard bike on expedition
Sunset Lowracer [TM] Fanatic wrote:
See http://home.pacifier.com/~jwills/vector/vector.htm for a fast trike. Despite the lack of terminal punctuation, I understood what Mark Leuck was intending to say. However, I felt like posting the link to the picture of the Vector since it is a fast trike. Strangely enough I remember this fossil of past design as coming to Australia in the mid-1980s. The local hero and newly crowned world track pursuit champion Steele Bishop got roped in to ride this beast for a 1- hour record, sponsorship by GMH Holden (a national car maker and friendly corporate image wannabee). Can't recall the result but long ago surpassed. Got a mention in a few magazines and newspapers so at least GMH got happy. As to touring on a trike or upright, apples and oranges (to quote another thread that I innocently started). The trike is more capable of laiden touring but that speaks of carrying loads, if I wanted a light and fast tour I'd bike it. But for the serious tour I would take the trike. I've seen many world tourists, Japanese, German, where ever, on bikes where there's so much packaging and supplies that its hard to see the frame underneath it all but I can still pack a trike with more and get off and walk away at any time. Soreness after a long ride can still occur, it just comes down to style and bad habits (in my previous lives I was very bad). And sometimes the steed to use for the tour depends on the countryside, its no use taking a trike if you can't see the scenery through the hedges or a bike when the blustery afternoon breeze means you can hardly stay upright (many on ARBR have stopped being 'upright'?). I could keep on many points, we can make a long list of pros and cons, but this would be pointless. The original thread talked of an individual style of riding and I think the only way for this rider to really get the answers is to get out there for a weekend ride on each setup. I ride all sorts, including trikes, bikes, recumbents, folders, racers so have less quibble over what to ride on a given occasion. Sorry if I offend anyone's sense of pedal-style loyalty with any of my comments above, not intended. |
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Face to face: Trike vs. standard bike on expedition
DD wrote:
As to touring on a trike or upright, apples and oranges (to quote another thread that I innocently started). The trike is more capable of laiden touring but that speaks of carrying loads Up to a point... I can think of a few trikes I've seen that wouldn't do Big Loads particularly better than a purpose built touring bike like the Streetmachine. 4 full size panniers is easy enough on a Streetmachine, less easy on a Windcheetah... and fast tour I'd bike it. But for the serious tour I would take the trike. I've seen many world tourists, Japanese, German, where ever, on bikes where there's so much packaging and supplies that its hard to see the frame underneath it all but I can still pack a trike with more and get off and walk away at any time. If you're taking that much then a trailer makes a good deal of sense whatever you're towing it with. pros and cons, but this would be pointless. The original thread talked of an individual style of riding and I think the only way for this rider to really get the answers is to get out there for a weekend ride on each setup. Yup! Pete. -- Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/ |
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Face to face: Trike vs. standard bike on expedition
DD wrote:
Strangely enough I remember this fossil of past design as coming to Australia in the mid-1980s. The local hero and newly crowned world track pursuit champion Steele Bishop got roped in to ride this beast for a 1- hour record, sponsorship by GMH Holden (a national car maker and friendly corporate image wannabee). Can't recall the result but long ago surpassed. Got a mention in a few magazines and newspapers so at least GMH got happy. Somewhere in the archives I have a small snippet about Steele Bishop going for an HPV speed record in a Holden-sponsored machine, but IIRC 'tweren't a Vector but some locally-built device. Personally, I'd be quite interested to see just how fast a Vector would go at Battle Mountain. Especially as its 58.89 mph record at Ontario is only 3.5 mph down on Sam's sea-level record. -- Dave Larrington - http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/ My other motto is in Latin. |
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Face to face: Trike vs. standard bike on expedition
"James B. Andrews" wrote in message ... If you want to have a special trike made for you out of carbon fiber and totally stripped,,, you could beat the time on the upright but most trikes are just too heavy. Your best speed would probably be on a tadpole, deltas are just too massive. A Greenspeed or a Cat trike would be the type to check. I own a Penninger recumbent trike that weights 53 pounds and it take a lot of effort to get it to 15-17 miles per hour, My wife can do that speed on her Penninger for about a mile(flat ground, no wind) before starting to slow down.. We normally ride along at about 8-10 miles per hour. Now as for riding time/ riding comfort, my wife and I have ridden 8-10 hours many times with very little discomfort. After a couple of hours the endorphens kick in and we just don't want to stop. Now, a Penninger that weighs in at 20 lbs would be a dream to ride.. Anyone else have any comments??? Jim Andrews Columbus Phoenix Glad to hear you say you cruise at such a low speed. That is how fast I usually go on my Penninger. I think I got it up to 25 once or twice, but I was really huffing and puffing. I enjoy my trike very much and the low speed is not a big problem for me. I feel like the tortise in the race with the hare. I may not go fast, but I just keep going :-) And I don't fall over... and my butt doesn't hurt... and I can pick up coins on the ground without getting off the thing. Parking is sweet - I just stand up and walk away. There are some disadvantages other than the low speed. It can flip without much effort. The lack of suspension can be a problem in rough terrain. I have to think ahead when preparing to cross a busy road - making sure I gear down before stopping so I have good pickup for a quick crossing. It is difficult to look behind for vehicles sneaking up on me. It is also dangerous in places like parking lots because it is so low and not visible when coming out from behind a parked car. Also, it attracts a lot of attention. I haven't had a big problem with that yet, but I often find myself thinking that some idiot is gonna throw something at me from a moving car. But even with all these drawbacks, I wouldn't give it up, unless, as you say, they make a lighter Penninger... P2 |
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Face to face: Trike vs. standard bike on expedition
No masochist is ever going to be happy on a trike. No pain, no pain.
You could make it faster by eliminating some of those 10 minute recovery-from-the-bike stops, but there'd still be little or no pain. And you'd still likely be making less than your desired distance at the end of the day. If distance is everything, then stay with the DF. Or better yet, go with a recumbent bike. If I understand what you are saying correctly, then trikes are just not for you. The culture shock would be too much. It is just too hard to keep up the need for speed when you are riding an easy chair. Your head is up and you start to notice things around you and lose your focus. Photo ops becon. Flowers beg to be smelled. People want to talk about your ride and fritter away your time. It would probably turn from an endurance event to a VACATION! Danger, DANGER! Leave the trikes to us old people who aren't in a hurry anymore. |
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Face to face: Trike vs. standard bike on expedition
You sound like a man after my own heart........If you are in a hurry
take the car |
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Face to face: Trike vs. standard bike on expedition
Which is better for this kind of riding (5400 km in roads and dirt roads):
trikes or recumbents? and big city rides "harpo" wrote in message oups.com... Hi I've just finished a 5400 km tour through western/central Australia, riding my greenspeed trike. Reading your message, I would say stick with your DF. You are definitely faster than a trike. Having said that I wouldn't dream of touring on paved roads on anything other than my trike, Head up, seeing everything, and believe or not, much safer than a conventional bike. If I'm in a hurry I'll take the car. The only thing wrong with touring on a trike is that it does not handle rough dirt roads very well. Being as my next tour will involve riding on such roads, I'll take my mountain bike, and a bob trailer............have fun Harpo wrote: Hi, |
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