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Old October 9th 08, 03:46 AM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,alt.planning.urban,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides,uk.rec.cycling
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"ComandanteBanana" wrote in message
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On Oct 8, 12:41 pm, Pat wrote:

I know you're on the payroll of Big Oil to try to get people to not
use bike and to use more cars, but finally you're getting that point
through precisely and you should be commented for it.


With tha IQ of yours you must be voting for McCain, right? He's for
drilling and if drilling doesn't cut, then he'll invade Venezuela or
something, right?

You by far have the lowest IQ in this newsgroup and have nothing of value to
contribute



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  #12  
Old October 9th 08, 03:48 AM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,alt.planning.urban,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides,uk.rec.cycling
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In article ,
ComandanteBanana writes:
On Oct 8, 12:41*pm, Pat wrote:
I know you're on the payroll of Big Oil to try to get people to not
use bike and to use more cars, but finally you're getting that point
through precisely and you should be commented for it.

With tha IQ of yours you must be voting for McCain, right? He's for
drilling and if drilling doesn't cut, then he'll invade Venezuela or
something, right?


Say, whhaaat!!??

Anyway, the subject is NOT oil, but how the lack of credit will keep
you from buying Supersized Unnecessary Vehicles and other aberrations.
By the way, do you, as a city planner who lives in the boondocks,
finally figured out that city planning takes sidewalks? They are
conspicuously absent from the American suburbia, right?


Sidewalks are great for keeping non-motorized traffic
off your streets & roads, right?

It's blatantly obvious from your remarks and the world, that a world
without cars/trucks is a world unlike any world you've seen. *A world
of soley bikes is a world that quickly deteriorates into a world with
no bikes. *A bicycle-based economy is unsubstainable. *Without cars
and trucks and oil you cannot mine the ores you need for metals. *You
cannot power the factories. *You cannot deliver the food you need.
You cannot keep society going. *The best you could imagine is a dirt-
poor, third world country.

Maybe we can save 50% by junking all the SUVs and destined that to
real world solutions?


Once a motor vehicle has been mfg'd, the greater part of its
ecological impact has already been irredeemably inflicted.
Motor vehicles are choking blights well before they roll off
the assembly lines. In some cases, motor vehicles are necessary.
But I'll tell ya what: just about anyone you "needs" a Prius or
a Chevy Sprint or whatever econocar city runabout, doesn't really
need a car at all. Plain & simple.

You rant & rave about SUVs, and those are already passe for
the last couple of years. Now the mfgs are pumping-out these
horrid li'l disposable cars.

The good news is, of course, that we will NEVER run out of oil.
NEVER. *It's impossible.

You should watch documentaries (I've got the name somewhere) on the
subject. They give the year 2017 or so, and people fighting over a
gallon of oil and never occurring to them to ride a bike... That must
be you.


shrug must be me, too, and a whole lot of other people here.
In a pig's eye!

We will also NEVER run out of fuel. *If oil is too expensive, we'll
switch to bio-fuel or coal or something else.

Again, bikes are under your radar. Maybe your cars will run on BS.
Manure has a high potential.

Ever wonder why there are still whales swimming around? *Because whale
oil got too expensive and kerosene replaced it. *Kerosene was replaced
by fuel oil and diesel. *Fuel oil was replaced in may areas by Natural
Gas. *It goes on and on. *Your insistence on oil, oil, oil comes from
two places. *First, your employer and second your inability to grasp
technological change.

My employer? Yeah they pay me to fight stupidity.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Heh.

You must be a True Believer. I guess that's why you were hired.

Later on, when things don't pan out the way you thought they
would, you could say you were just following orders.


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Old October 9th 08, 03:58 AM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,alt.planning.urban,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides,uk.rec.cycling
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"ComandanteBanana" wrote in message
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On Oct 8, 12:41 pm, Pat wrote:



Maybe we can save 50% by junking all the SUVs and destined that to
real world solutions?

Obviously you are extremely retarded, but even you should understand that
vehicle built to serve classes of problems in society. Bikes solve almost
none of the problems that real people must solve to make society work. You
are not contributing anything, just adding worthless noise to the newsgroup.


The good news is, of course, that we will NEVER run out of oil.
NEVER. It's impossible.


You should watch documentaries (I've got the name somewhere) on the
subject. They give the year 2017 or so, and people fighting over a
gallon of oil and never occurring to them to ride a bike... That must
be you.

HEY RETARD, all manually powered vehicles require food to power them. That
food takes a lot of oil to produce for you to eat and use for fuel. If
there is no oil you will starve to death never able to ride your oil using
bike. Even a total retard like you should understand that but apparently
that is way beyond your mental capabilities.



  #14  
Old October 9th 08, 04:08 AM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,alt.planning.urban,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides,uk.rec.cycling
Tom Keats
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In article ,
"Jack May" writes:

"ComandanteBanana" wrote in message
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On Oct 7, 10:53 pm, John Mayson wrote:
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On Tue, 7 Oct 2008, KingOfTheApes wrote:
This article makes a funny comment about the need for credit as a
result of the financial crisis...


Without it "we'd all ride bicycles"...


What's the downside? :-)


No, there's no downside other than for those at the top...

You are at the very bottom of society. No money, no power, no voice, just
wanting to return to the past and far too low an intelligence to understand
what is going on in the world.


Yeah, we humans are subhumans.

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  #15  
Old October 9th 08, 04:14 AM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,alt.planning.urban,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides,uk.rec.cycling
Tom Keats
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Default Will the Global Plunge make people plunge into bikes?

In article ,
"Jack May" writes:

"ComandanteBanana" wrote in message
...
On Oct 8, 12:41 pm, Pat wrote:

I know you're on the payroll of Big Oil to try to get people to not
use bike and to use more cars, but finally you're getting that point
through precisely and you should be commented for it.


With tha IQ of yours you must be voting for McCain, right? He's for
drilling and if drilling doesn't cut, then he'll invade Venezuela or
something, right?

You by far have the lowest IQ in this newsgroup and have nothing of value to
contribute


Hey, Technocracy Boy -- you 'n CommandanteBanana are
a match made in heave...


well, somewhere.


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I'm really at:
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  #16  
Old October 9th 08, 04:22 PM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,alt.planning.urban,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides,uk.rec.cycling
ComandanteBanana
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Default SAVING IS CHEAPER THAN R & D

On Oct 8, 12:41*pm, Pat wrote:

The good news is, of course, that we will NEVER run out of oil.
NEVER. *It's impossible.


Hey, you must change channels once a while. Fox News will only tell
you the viewpoint of the lion. Remember this, SAVING IS CHEAPER THAN R
& D. Now get on your bikes...

"Oil Apocalypse" in Mega Disasater, History Channel

The oil that runs our world won't last forever. The gap between supply
and demand is ever-growing. Even without increasing our current rate
of consumption we will empty the Earth's large but finite reservoirs
in a relatively short time. Will alternative energy save us or is it
already too late? What would happen to the world as we know it when
our oil dependent industries come to a grinding halt? A worldwide
depression is a certainty but a power struggle for the basic
necessities of life would be complete chaos.

Are we looking down the barrel of an OIL APOCALYPSE? This THE HISTORY
CHANNEL® DVD paints a terrifying picture.

http://store.aetv.com/html/product/i...html?id=108290
  #17  
Old October 10th 08, 02:08 AM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,alt.planning.urban,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides,uk.rec.cycling
Pat
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On Oct 9, 11:22*am, ComandanteBanana
wrote:
On Oct 8, 12:41*pm, Pat wrote:

The good news is, of course, that we will NEVER run out of oil.
NEVER. *It's impossible.


Hey, you must change channels once a while. Fox News will only tell
you the viewpoint of the lion. Remember this, SAVING IS CHEAPER THAN R
& D. Now get on your bikes...

"Oil Apocalypse" in Mega Disasater, History Channel

The oil that runs our world won't last forever. The gap between supply
and demand is ever-growing. Even without increasing our current rate
of consumption we will empty the Earth's large but finite reservoirs
in a relatively short time. Will alternative energy save us or is it
already too late? What would happen to the world as we know it when
our oil dependent industries come to a grinding halt? A worldwide
depression is a certainty but a power struggle for the basic
necessities of life would be complete chaos.

Are we looking down the barrel of an OIL APOCALYPSE? This THE HISTORY
CHANNEL® DVD paints a terrifying picture.

http://store.aetv.com/html/product/i...html?id=108290


I can't believe I'm asking this, but what the heck. Do you really
believe that on some day in 2017 all of the oil wells will just go dry
and we will have pumped the last gallon of oil out of the ground?
Bam, it'll be done. And if you believe that, do you believe that all
of scientists and engineers and inventors of the world will stand
there looking at the empty wells and saying "oops, we really should
have planned for that" as all of the lights go out and all of the cars
stop.

That scenario is beyond comprehension, but is that really your view?
  #18  
Old October 10th 08, 09:46 PM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,alt.planning.urban,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides,uk.rec.cycling
ComandanteBanana
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Default AMERICA DOESN'T HAVE AN ENERGY POLICY!

On Oct 9, 9:08*pm, Pat wrote:
On Oct 9, 11:22*am, ComandanteBanana
wrote:





On Oct 8, 12:41*pm, Pat wrote:


The good news is, of course, that we will NEVER run out of oil.
NEVER. *It's impossible.


Hey, you must change channels once a while. Fox News will only tell
you the viewpoint of the lion. Remember this, SAVING IS CHEAPER THAN R
& D. Now get on your bikes...


"Oil Apocalypse" in Mega Disasater, History Channel


The oil that runs our world won't last forever. The gap between supply
and demand is ever-growing. Even without increasing our current rate
of consumption we will empty the Earth's large but finite reservoirs
in a relatively short time. Will alternative energy save us or is it
already too late? What would happen to the world as we know it when
our oil dependent industries come to a grinding halt? A worldwide
depression is a certainty but a power struggle for the basic
necessities of life would be complete chaos.


Are we looking down the barrel of an OIL APOCALYPSE? This THE HISTORY
CHANNEL® DVD paints a terrifying picture.


http://store.aetv.com/html/product/i...html?id=108290


I can't believe I'm asking this, but what the heck. *Do you really
believe that on some day in 2017 all of the oil wells will just go dry
and we will have pumped the last gallon of oil out of the ground?
Bam, it'll be done. *And if you believe that, do you believe that all
of scientists and engineers and inventors of the world will stand
there looking at the empty wells and saying "oops, we really should
have planned for that" as all of the lights go out and all of the cars
stop.

That scenario is beyond comprehension, but is that really your view?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


If there's a lesson to be learned from the program is NOT so much that
a crisis will happen in 2017 or so, just that AMERICA DOESN'T HAVE AN
ENERGY POLICY! When you are not prepare for something or you stick
your head in the sand, many things can happen, just like the current
financial crisis, unforseen --but predictable-- a few months ago.

And not just "running out of oil" but a terrorist attack in Saudi
Arabia, or an oil embargo like the '70s, or a series of hurricanes, or
China getting hungrier for oil and launching a war... Then America
will be as prepared as the dinosaurs were for the asteroid.

How nice it would be have leaders that worried about energy the way
the worry about credit. And PREVENTION is better than R & D because is
cheaper, so let those who want to bike do so --in a safe environment,
not a jungle.

  #19  
Old October 10th 08, 09:55 PM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,alt.planning.urban,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides,uk.rec.cycling
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Default Will the Global Plunge make people plunge into bikes?


"Tom Keats" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Jack May" writes:

"ComandanteBanana" wrote in message
...
On Oct 8, 12:41 pm, Pat wrote:

I know you're on the payroll of Big Oil to try to get people to not
use bike and to use more cars, but finally you're getting that point
through precisely and you should be commented for it.


With tha IQ of yours you must be voting for McCain, right? He's for
drilling and if drilling doesn't cut, then he'll invade Venezuela or
something, right?

You by far have the lowest IQ in this newsgroup and have nothing of value
to
contribute


Hey, Technocracy Boy -- you 'n CommandanteBanana are
a match made in heave...


And your claim to fame is that you can figure out how to ride a train?


  #20  
Old October 10th 08, 10:01 PM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,alt.planning.urban,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides,uk.rec.cycling
Jack May
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Default AMERICA DOESN'T HAVE AN ENERGY POLICY!


"ComandanteBanana" wrote in message
...
On Oct 9, 9:08 pm, Pat wrote:
On Oct 9, 11:22 am, ComandanteBanana
wrote:





On Oct 8, 12:41 pm, Pat wrote:


The good news is, of course, that we will NEVER run out of oil.
NEVER. It's impossible.


Hey, you must change channels once a while. Fox News will only tell
you the viewpoint of the lion. Remember this, SAVING IS CHEAPER THAN R
& D. Now get on your bikes...


"Oil Apocalypse" in Mega Disasater, History Channel


The oil that runs our world won't last forever. The gap between supply
and demand is ever-growing. Even without increasing our current rate
of consumption we will empty the Earth's large but finite reservoirs
in a relatively short time. Will alternative energy save us or is it
already too late? What would happen to the world as we know it when
our oil dependent industries come to a grinding halt? A worldwide
depression is a certainty but a power struggle for the basic
necessities of life would be complete chaos.


Are we looking down the barrel of an OIL APOCALYPSE? This THE HISTORY
CHANNEL® DVD paints a terrifying picture.


http://store.aetv.com/html/product/i...html?id=108290


I can't believe I'm asking this, but what the heck. Do you really
believe that on some day in 2017 all of the oil wells will just go dry
and we will have pumped the last gallon of oil out of the ground?
Bam, it'll be done. And if you believe that, do you believe that all
of scientists and engineers and inventors of the world will stand
there looking at the empty wells and saying "oops, we really should
have planned for that" as all of the lights go out and all of the cars
stop.

That scenario is beyond comprehension, but is that really your view?- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


If there's a,....................

We have a very strong energy policy in the US. We are depending of a lot of
very smart, very rich people in the private economy to develop our future
energy sources. Far more effective than Government bumbling around.

?How nice it would be have leaders that worried about energy the way
?the worry about credit. And PREVENTION is better than R & D because is
?cheaper, so let those who want to bike do so --in a safe environment,
?not a jungle.

You are just terrified of R&D because you are incapable of thinking.

Prevention means just trying to stretch out a very limited supply over an
extremely long time. There is no policy more stupid than that. It never
works but exactly expected from a total retard like you.


 




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