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Old October 14th 04, 02:56 AM
Roger Zoul
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Eric Topp wrote:
|| Martin Krieg wrote of Jack Castor falling:
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||| At six feet above the ground, his bike slides out.
||
|| Interesting clip. I noticed that there was shimmy
|| as he was JRA with his legs over the bars.
||
|| Also, the tire was separating from the rim well before
|| he crashed. You can see it clearly on the "close-up"
|| about half way through the clip. There's a gap
|| between the rim and the tire just ahead of the
|| contact patch.
||

I'm curious. After the tire started separating from the rim, was there any
way he could have avoided crashing at that point? It seems pretty much a
done deal at that point to me.


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Old October 14th 04, 02:56 AM
Roger Zoul
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Eric Topp wrote:
|| Martin Krieg wrote of Jack Castor falling:
||
||| At six feet above the ground, his bike slides out.
||
|| Interesting clip. I noticed that there was shimmy
|| as he was JRA with his legs over the bars.
||
|| Also, the tire was separating from the rim well before
|| he crashed. You can see it clearly on the "close-up"
|| about half way through the clip. There's a gap
|| between the rim and the tire just ahead of the
|| contact patch.
||

I'm curious. After the tire started separating from the rim, was there any
way he could have avoided crashing at that point? It seems pretty much a
done deal at that point to me.


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Old October 14th 04, 02:56 AM
Roger Zoul
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Eric Topp wrote:
|| Martin Krieg wrote of Jack Castor falling:
||
||| At six feet above the ground, his bike slides out.
||
|| Interesting clip. I noticed that there was shimmy
|| as he was JRA with his legs over the bars.
||
|| Also, the tire was separating from the rim well before
|| he crashed. You can see it clearly on the "close-up"
|| about half way through the clip. There's a gap
|| between the rim and the tire just ahead of the
|| contact patch.
||

I'm curious. After the tire started separating from the rim, was there any
way he could have avoided crashing at that point? It seems pretty much a
done deal at that point to me.


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Old October 14th 04, 08:34 AM
Ryan Cousineau
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In article ,
"Roger Zoul" wrote:

Eric Topp wrote:
|| Martin Krieg wrote of Jack Castor falling:
||
||| At six feet above the ground, his bike slides out.
||
|| Interesting clip. I noticed that there was shimmy
|| as he was JRA with his legs over the bars.
||
|| Also, the tire was separating from the rim well before
|| he crashed. You can see it clearly on the "close-up"
|| about half way through the clip. There's a gap
|| between the rim and the tire just ahead of the
|| contact patch.
||

I'm curious. After the tire started separating from the rim, was there any
way he could have avoided crashing at that point? It seems pretty much a
done deal at that point to me.


It's a matter of dumb luck, at that point. he loses control because the
metal rim has no grip on the pavement.

At best, he might have been able to ride into the ditch and soften his
landing.

There's a lot of reasons why safety bicycles took over, and this video
illustrates several. Note that this is something of a better-case
scenario, since the rider landed on his feet, not the ever-popular face,
which is quite easy on a high-wheeler from what I understand.

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Verus de parvis; verus de magnis.
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Old October 14th 04, 08:34 AM
Ryan Cousineau
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In article ,
"Roger Zoul" wrote:

Eric Topp wrote:
|| Martin Krieg wrote of Jack Castor falling:
||
||| At six feet above the ground, his bike slides out.
||
|| Interesting clip. I noticed that there was shimmy
|| as he was JRA with his legs over the bars.
||
|| Also, the tire was separating from the rim well before
|| he crashed. You can see it clearly on the "close-up"
|| about half way through the clip. There's a gap
|| between the rim and the tire just ahead of the
|| contact patch.
||

I'm curious. After the tire started separating from the rim, was there any
way he could have avoided crashing at that point? It seems pretty much a
done deal at that point to me.


It's a matter of dumb luck, at that point. he loses control because the
metal rim has no grip on the pavement.

At best, he might have been able to ride into the ditch and soften his
landing.

There's a lot of reasons why safety bicycles took over, and this video
illustrates several. Note that this is something of a better-case
scenario, since the rider landed on his feet, not the ever-popular face,
which is quite easy on a high-wheeler from what I understand.

--
Ryan Cousineau, http://www.wiredcola.com
Verus de parvis; verus de magnis.
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Old October 14th 04, 08:34 AM
Ryan Cousineau
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In article ,
"Roger Zoul" wrote:

Eric Topp wrote:
|| Martin Krieg wrote of Jack Castor falling:
||
||| At six feet above the ground, his bike slides out.
||
|| Interesting clip. I noticed that there was shimmy
|| as he was JRA with his legs over the bars.
||
|| Also, the tire was separating from the rim well before
|| he crashed. You can see it clearly on the "close-up"
|| about half way through the clip. There's a gap
|| between the rim and the tire just ahead of the
|| contact patch.
||

I'm curious. After the tire started separating from the rim, was there any
way he could have avoided crashing at that point? It seems pretty much a
done deal at that point to me.


It's a matter of dumb luck, at that point. he loses control because the
metal rim has no grip on the pavement.

At best, he might have been able to ride into the ditch and soften his
landing.

There's a lot of reasons why safety bicycles took over, and this video
illustrates several. Note that this is something of a better-case
scenario, since the rider landed on his feet, not the ever-popular face,
which is quite easy on a high-wheeler from what I understand.

--
Ryan Cousineau, http://www.wiredcola.com
Verus de parvis; verus de magnis.
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Old October 14th 04, 08:03 PM
Ray Heindl
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Ryan Cousineau wrote:

There's a lot of reasons why safety bicycles took over, and this
video illustrates several. Note that this is something of a
better-case scenario, since the rider landed on his feet, not the
ever-popular face, which is quite easy on a high-wheeler from what
I understand.


I wonder if that's the reason for the feet-over-handlebars position --
to turn face plants into foot plants.

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Old October 14th 04, 08:03 PM
Ray Heindl
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Ryan Cousineau wrote:

There's a lot of reasons why safety bicycles took over, and this
video illustrates several. Note that this is something of a
better-case scenario, since the rider landed on his feet, not the
ever-popular face, which is quite easy on a high-wheeler from what
I understand.


I wonder if that's the reason for the feet-over-handlebars position --
to turn face plants into foot plants.

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Old October 14th 04, 08:03 PM
Ray Heindl
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Ryan Cousineau wrote:

There's a lot of reasons why safety bicycles took over, and this
video illustrates several. Note that this is something of a
better-case scenario, since the rider landed on his feet, not the
ever-popular face, which is quite easy on a high-wheeler from what
I understand.


I wonder if that's the reason for the feet-over-handlebars position --
to turn face plants into foot plants.

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Old October 15th 04, 04:02 AM
Ryan Cousineau
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In article ,
Ray Heindl wrote:

Ryan Cousineau wrote:

There's a lot of reasons why safety bicycles took over, and this
video illustrates several. Note that this is something of a
better-case scenario, since the rider landed on his feet, not the
ever-popular face, which is quite easy on a high-wheeler from what
I understand.


I wonder if that's the reason for the feet-over-handlebars position --
to turn face plants into foot plants.


It can't hurt, but I believe the main intention is to keep the feet out
of the way while the pedals (and wheels) spin freely.

I've seen video of modern fixie-riders doing the same thing (feet on
bars) for largely the same reason (pedals spinning freely).

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