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Old April 14th 12, 09:33 PM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,uk.rec.cycling,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,misc.consumers.frugal-living
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On Apr 14, 6:22*pm, dr6092 wrote:
On Apr 14, 3:17*pm, NM wrote:

On Apr 14, 12:05*pm, dr6092 wrote:
. I am able to walk so respect


local custom in pedestrian areas but the idea that is for safety
reasons is total nonsense.


Why? Cycles being ridden amongst pedestrians could result in damage or
injury to a pedestrian if the rider lost control for whatever reason,


Loss of control can happen while walking it.


Seldom with serious consequences.


thus for safety of pedestrians it's banned, what is nonsensical about
that?


Why did you snip "...a bicycle is far easier to manage while being
ridden (at walking pace) instead of being walked."?


I wasn't commenting on cycles being pushed by a pedestrian.

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Old April 14th 12, 09:39 PM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,uk.rec.cycling,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,misc.consumers.frugal-living
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On Apr 14, 7:01*pm, "Simon Mason"
wrote:
"dr6092" wrote in message

...



I agree that a bicycle is far easier to manage while being ridden (at
walking pace) instead of being walked. I am able to walk so respect
local custom in pedestrian areas but the idea that is for safety
reasons is total nonsense.


Agreed - however in order to stay within the law, on the only bit of
pavement on my commute that I use as a short cut, I will dismount and walk.
It means that I have a much bigger presence when I pass an oncoming
pedestrian and get in their way more, but at least I am obeying the letter
of the law.
--
Simon Mason


You have considerably less kinetic energy whilst walking thus are less
liable to inflict severe damage to whoever is unfortunate enough to
collide with you. Aside from that in the event of any sort of action
that could result in a claim or process of law you would automatically
be in the wrong if you were riding on the pavement.
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Old April 14th 12, 09:42 PM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,uk.rec.cycling,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,misc.consumers.frugal-living
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On Apr 14, 9:33*pm, NM wrote:
On Apr 14, 6:22*pm, dr6092 wrote:
On Apr 14, 3:17*pm, NM wrote:
On Apr 14, 12:05*pm, dr6092 wrote:


. I am able to walk so respect
local custom in pedestrian areas but the idea that is for safety
reasons is total nonsense.


Why? Cycles being ridden amongst pedestrians could result in damage or
injury to a pedestrian if the rider lost control for whatever reason,


Loss of control can happen while walking it.


Seldom with serious consequences.

thus for safety of pedestrians it's banned, what is nonsensical about
that?


Why did you snip "...a bicycle is far easier to manage while being
ridden (at walking pace) instead of being walked."?


I wasn't commenting on cycles being pushed by a pedestrian.


As I said, I only get off and walk because of mistaken belief.
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Old April 15th 12, 07:53 AM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,uk.rec.cycling,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,misc.consumers.frugal-living
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On Apr 14, 3:17*pm, NM wrote:
On Apr 14, 12:05*pm, dr6092 wrote:
. I am able to walk so respect

local custom in pedestrian areas but the idea that is for safety
reasons is total nonsense.


Why? Cycles being ridden amongst pedestrians could result in damage or
injury to a pedestrian if the rider lost control for whatever reason,
thus for safety of pedestrians it's banned, what is nonsensical about
that?

As I have already pointed out, the same applies to wheelchairs but
they are allowed.

Doug.
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Old April 15th 12, 10:32 AM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,uk.rec.cycling,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,misc.consumers.frugal-living
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On Apr 15, 7:53*am, Doug wrote:
On Apr 14, 3:17*pm, NM wrote: On Apr 14, 12:05*pm, dr6092 wrote:
. I am able to walk so respect


local custom in pedestrian areas but the idea that is for safety
reasons is total nonsense.


Why? Cycles being ridden amongst pedestrians could result in damage or
injury to a pedestrian if the rider lost control for whatever reason,
thus for safety of pedestrians it's banned, what is nonsensical about
that?


As I have already pointed out, the same applies to wheelchairs but
they are allowed.

Doug.


And we are talking cycles, cycles are not wheelchairs, wheelchairs are
for the disabled, cycles are not, what do you find so difficult to
understand about that?

The fact an individual disabled person finds it suitable to use a
cycle does not make the cycle a general aid for the disabled thus it
will not gain any concessions.

Get over it.
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Old April 15th 12, 10:51 AM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,uk.rec.cycling,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,misc.consumers.frugal-living
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On 15/04/2012 07:53, Doug wrote:

On Apr 14, 3:17 pm, wrote:
On Apr 14, 12:05 pm, wrote:
. I am able to walk so respect

local custom in pedestrian areas but the idea that is for safety
reasons is total nonsense.


Why? Cycles being ridden amongst pedestrians could result in damage or
injury to a pedestrian if the rider lost control for whatever reason,
thus for safety of pedestrians it's banned, what is nonsensical about
that?

As I have already pointed out, the same applies to wheelchairs but
they are allowed.


(a) How fast does a bicycle go, and what is its approximate minimum speed in
the hands of an ordinary rider in order to remain stable?

[Note: an ordinary rider, not a circus performer.]

(b) How fast does a wheelchair go, and what is its approximate minimum speed
in the hands of an ordinary passenger in order to remain stable?
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Old April 15th 12, 04:55 PM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,uk.rec.cycling,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,misc.consumers.frugal-living
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"dr6092" wrote in message
...

Why did you snip "...a bicycle is far easier to manage while being
ridden (at walking pace) instead of being walked."?


I wasn't commenting on cycles being pushed by a pedestrian.


As I said, I only get off and walk because of mistaken belief.


I only get off and push on pavements - never for cyclist dismounts signs.
--
Simon Mason
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Old April 15th 12, 05:30 PM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,uk.rec.cycling,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,misc.consumers.frugal-living
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On 15/04/2012 16:55, Simon Mason wrote:


"dr6092" wrote in message
...

Why did you snip "...a bicycle is far easier to manage while being
ridden (at walking pace) instead of being walked."?

I wasn't commenting on cycles being pushed by a pedestrian.


As I said, I only get off and walk because of mistaken belief.


I only get off and push on pavements - never for cyclist dismounts signs.


What a rebel you are.
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Old April 16th 12, 06:12 AM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,uk.rec.cycling,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,misc.consumers.frugal-living
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On Apr 15, 10:32*am, NM wrote:
On Apr 15, 7:53*am, Doug wrote:

On Apr 14, 3:17*pm, NM wrote: On Apr 14, 12:05*pm, dr6092 wrote:
. I am able to walk so respect


local custom in pedestrian areas but the idea that is for safety
reasons is total nonsense.


Why? Cycles being ridden amongst pedestrians could result in damage or
injury to a pedestrian if the rider lost control for whatever reason,
thus for safety of pedestrians it's banned, what is nonsensical about
that?


As I have already pointed out, the same applies to wheelchairs but
they are allowed.


Doug.


And we are talking cycles, cycles are not wheelchairs, wheelchairs are
for the disabled, cycles are not, what do you find so difficult to
understand about that?

What you find so difficult to understand is who decides which is for
what and why.

The fact an individual disabled person finds it suitable to use a
cycle does not make the cycle a general aid for the disabled thus it
will not gain any concessions.

Get over it.

So you admit then that disabled people who use bicycles are
discriminated against?

Doug.
  #20  
Old April 16th 12, 06:14 AM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,uk.rec.cycling,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,misc.consumers.frugal-living
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On Apr 15, 10:51*am, JNugent wrote:
On 15/04/2012 07:53, Doug wrote:

On Apr 14, 3:17 pm, *wrote:
On Apr 14, 12:05 pm, *wrote:
. I am able to walk so respect


local custom in pedestrian areas but the idea that is for safety
reasons is total nonsense.


Why? Cycles being ridden amongst pedestrians could result in damage or
injury to a pedestrian if the rider lost control for whatever reason,
thus for safety of pedestrians it's banned, what is nonsensical about
that?


As I have already pointed out, the same applies to wheelchairs but
they are allowed.


(a) How fast does a bicycle go, and what is its approximate minimum speed in
the hands of an ordinary rider in order to remain stable?

[Note: an ordinary rider, not a circus performer.]

(b) How fast does a wheelchair go, and what is its approximate minimum speed
in the hands of an ordinary passenger in order to remain stable?

What about tricycles used for the disabled, as some are, and they are
discriminated against too?

Doug.
 




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