14 year-old Campy Record shifts like new...

On 5/8/2017 1:33 PM, wrote:
On Monday, May 8, 2017 at 9:06:57 AM UTC-5, wrote:



It's no surprise that not only have they survived but they still work almost as well as new.


The problem is even when new, the old stuff did not work nearly as well as any of the new stuff today. Kind of like a fool saying the drum brakes and carburetor on his 65 Pontiac was better than the new fancy dandy computer cars today.


Agreed, dependable/repairable/cheap is not the same as best
performance. People have personal preferences based on
various not-shared criteria.

That said, after the Chinese run their high altitude EMP
device, my no-electronics cars will run and yours won't.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On 08/05/2017 3:27 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 5/8/2017 1:33 PM, wrote:
On Monday, May 8, 2017 at 9:06:57 AM UTC-5, wrote:



It's no surprise that not only have they survived but they still work
almost as well as new.


The problem is even when new, the old stuff did not work nearly as
well as any of the new stuff today. Kind of like a fool saying the
drum brakes and carburetor on his 65 Pontiac was better than the new
fancy dandy computer cars today.


Agreed, dependable/repairable/cheap is not the same as best performance.
People have personal preferences based on various not-shared criteria.

That said, after the Chinese run their high altitude EMP device, my
no-electronics cars will run and yours won't.


You have a crank on the front of that model A Andrew? Unless you mean
your bike and then I'm all in with that idea.

On 5/8/2017 2:37 PM, Duane wrote:
On 08/05/2017 3:27 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 5/8/2017 1:33 PM, wrote:
On Monday, May 8, 2017 at 9:06:57 AM UTC-5,
wrote:



It's no surprise that not only have they survived but
they still work
almost as well as new.


The problem is even when new, the old stuff did not work
nearly as
well as any of the new stuff today. Kind of like a fool
saying the
drum brakes and carburetor on his 65 Pontiac was better
than the new
fancy dandy computer cars today.


Agreed, dependable/repairable/cheap is not the same as
best performance.
People have personal preferences based on various
not-shared criteria.

That said, after the Chinese run their high altitude EMP
device, my
no-electronics cars will run and yours won't.


You have a crank on the front of that model A Andrew?
Unless you mean your bike and then I'm all in with that idea.

12V electrical system without semiconductors, EPROMS or ICs.

p.s. Model T had a crank (at first anyway through 1919),
model A are electric start. I own neither.

No electronics on my bikes either.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Monday, May 8, 2017 at 12:54:26 PM UTC-4, Duane wrote:
On 08/05/2017 12:06 PM, Andrew Chaplin wrote:
On Sunday, May 7, 2017 at 3:53:29 PM UTC-4, Robert Latest wrote:
...after I properly re-sorted the spacers in the rear cassette. Duh.

robert

I only did about 35 Km yesterday, but, in my defence, the weather was off-putting. I was astride my 1972 Torpado Strada with its still mostly Nuovo Record gruppo.


If I wanted to ride yesterday, I would have needed a canoe. It's
looking worse today and now we're getting sleet.

Are you out in Rocky Bottom (Pierrefonds)?
--
Andrew Chaplin
SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO

On 08/05/2017 3:45 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 5/8/2017 2:37 PM, Duane wrote:
On 08/05/2017 3:27 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 5/8/2017 1:33 PM, wrote:
On Monday, May 8, 2017 at 9:06:57 AM UTC-5,
wrote:



It's no surprise that not only have they survived but
they still work
almost as well as new.


The problem is even when new, the old stuff did not work
nearly as
well as any of the new stuff today. Kind of like a fool
saying the
drum brakes and carburetor on his 65 Pontiac was better
than the new
fancy dandy computer cars today.


Agreed, dependable/repairable/cheap is not the same as
best performance.
People have personal preferences based on various
not-shared criteria.

That said, after the Chinese run their high altitude EMP
device, my
no-electronics cars will run and yours won't.


You have a crank on the front of that model A Andrew?
Unless you mean your bike and then I'm all in with that idea.

12V electrical system without semiconductors, EPROMS or ICs.

p.s. Model T had a crank (at first anyway through 1919), model A are
electric start. I own neither.

No electronics on my bikes either.

No, I don't have electronics on my bike except my garmin and after the
bomb, I figure I won't need that.
But it's been a while since I've seen a car without an electronic ignition.

On 08/05/2017 3:46 PM, wrote:
On Monday, May 8, 2017 at 12:54:26 PM UTC-4, Duane wrote:
On 08/05/2017 12:06 PM, Andrew Chaplin wrote:
On Sunday, May 7, 2017 at 3:53:29 PM UTC-4, Robert Latest wrote:
...after I properly re-sorted the spacers in the rear cassette. Duh.

robert

I only did about 35 Km yesterday, but, in my defence, the weather was off-putting. I was astride my 1972 Torpado Strada with its still mostly Nuovo Record gruppo.


If I wanted to ride yesterday, I would have needed a canoe. It's
looking worse today and now we're getting sleet.

Are you out in Rocky Bottom (Pierrefonds)?
--
Andrew Chaplin
SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO


Pas loin. I'm about 2 km from there. But I'm on a ridge where I am so
it's dry at the moment.

On 5/8/2017 2:56 PM, Duane wrote:
On 08/05/2017 3:45 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 5/8/2017 2:37 PM, Duane wrote:
On 08/05/2017 3:27 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 5/8/2017 1:33 PM, wrote:
On Monday, May 8, 2017 at 9:06:57 AM UTC-5,
wrote:



It's no surprise that not only have they survived but
they still work
almost as well as new.


The problem is even when new, the old stuff did not work
nearly as
well as any of the new stuff today. Kind of like a fool
saying the
drum brakes and carburetor on his 65 Pontiac was better
than the new
fancy dandy computer cars today.


Agreed, dependable/repairable/cheap is not the same as
best performance.
People have personal preferences based on various
not-shared criteria.

That said, after the Chinese run their high altitude EMP
device, my
no-electronics cars will run and yours won't.


You have a crank on the front of that model A Andrew?
Unless you mean your bike and then I'm all in with that
idea.

12V electrical system without semiconductors, EPROMS or ICs.

p.s. Model T had a crank (at first anyway through 1919),
model A are
electric start. I own neither.

No electronics on my bikes either.

No, I don't have electronics on my bike except my garmin and
after the bomb, I figure I won't need that.
But it's been a while since I've seen a car without an
electronic ignition.

A matchbook and some meatware are sufficient for setting
mechanical breaker points.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

AMuzi wrote:
On 5/8/2017 2:56 PM, Duane wrote:
On 08/05/2017 3:45 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 5/8/2017 2:37 PM, Duane wrote:
On 08/05/2017 3:27 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 5/8/2017 1:33 PM, wrote:
On Monday, May 8, 2017 at 9:06:57 AM UTC-5,
wrote:



It's no surprise that not only have they survived but
they still work
almost as well as new.


The problem is even when new, the old stuff did not work
nearly as
well as any of the new stuff today. Kind of like a fool
saying the
drum brakes and carburetor on his 65 Pontiac was better
than the new
fancy dandy computer cars today.


Agreed, dependable/repairable/cheap is not the same as
best performance.
People have personal preferences based on various
not-shared criteria.

That said, after the Chinese run their high altitude EMP
device, my
no-electronics cars will run and yours won't.


You have a crank on the front of that model A Andrew?
Unless you mean your bike and then I'm all in with that
idea.

12V electrical system without semiconductors, EPROMS or ICs.

p.s. Model T had a crank (at first anyway through 1919),
model A are
electric start. I own neither.

No electronics on my bikes either.

No, I don't have electronics on my bike except my garmin and
after the bomb, I figure I won't need that.
But it's been a while since I've seen a car without an
electronic ignition.

A matchbook and some meatware are sufficient for setting
mechanical breaker points.


I know. I used to carry points, rotor and condenser in my glove box. But
that was with a '69 Camaro with a 283. Long time ago.

--
duane

On 5/8/2017 5:37 PM, Duane wrote:
AMuzi wrote:
On 5/8/2017 2:56 PM, Duane wrote:
On 08/05/2017 3:45 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 5/8/2017 2:37 PM, Duane wrote:
On 08/05/2017 3:27 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 5/8/2017 1:33 PM, wrote:
On Monday, May 8, 2017 at 9:06:57 AM UTC-5,
wrote:



It's no surprise that not only have they survived but
they still work
almost as well as new.


The problem is even when new, the old stuff did not work
nearly as
well as any of the new stuff today. Kind of like a fool
saying the
drum brakes and carburetor on his 65 Pontiac was better
than the new
fancy dandy computer cars today.


Agreed, dependable/repairable/cheap is not the same as
best performance.
People have personal preferences based on various
not-shared criteria.

That said, after the Chinese run their high altitude EMP
device, my
no-electronics cars will run and yours won't.


You have a crank on the front of that model A Andrew?
Unless you mean your bike and then I'm all in with that
idea.

12V electrical system without semiconductors, EPROMS or ICs.

p.s. Model T had a crank (at first anyway through 1919),
model A are
electric start. I own neither.

No electronics on my bikes either.

No, I don't have electronics on my bike except my garmin and
after the bomb, I figure I won't need that.
But it's been a while since I've seen a car without an
electronic ignition.

A matchbook and some meatware are sufficient for setting
mechanical breaker points.


I know. I used to carry points, rotor and condenser in my glove box. But
that was with a '69 Camaro with a 283. Long time ago.


I love my 283. I think Mr Slocumb would agree it's
everything an Ariel Four is not. One might say a small block
283 is the Sturmey Archer AW of the auto world.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Mon, 08 May 2017 02:00:57 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 7 May 2017 16:58:31 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Sunday, May 7, 2017 at 1:21:03 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On 7 May 2017 19:53:26 GMT, Robert Latest wrote:

...after I properly re-sorted the spacers in the rear cassette. Duh.

robert
Just came back from a ride on my 30 year old Shimano 18 speed
equipped Raleigh Century. (all original including the tires -)

Nice to see how many miles you put in.
Not a lot - I didn't drive it for a number of years - now that I'm
"retired" it will get more use. Had a cheep "bikemeter" on it for the
first couple years - likely 1 or 2 thousand miles max on it.
Just remembered one thin that's not original - I tossed th straight
handle bar and replaced it with a "north road" bar - much easier on my
wrists.