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On Sep 22, 4:46*pm, Rocket J Squirrel
wrote: My eyes are not fooling me: the Pletscher kickstand at http://www.rivbike.com/images/produc...1/20-139-1.jpg looks to be mounted to a handy bracket on that bike. I just mounted a Greenfield to that 60s folder...with a kickstand plate. Looks great and makes me wonder why why why American casual bikes don't come with these any more. Especially with the trend to top swing mechs. It wouldn't cost much. I know--crazy talk! |
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landotter wrote:
On Sep 22, 4:46 pm, Rocket J Squirrel wrote: My eyes are not fooling me: the Pletscher kickstand at http://www.rivbike.com/images/produc...1/20-139-1.jpg looks to be mounted to a handy bracket on that bike. I just mounted a Greenfield to that 60s folder...with a kickstand plate. Looks great and makes me wonder why why why American casual bikes don't come with these any more. Especially with the trend to top swing mechs. It wouldn't cost much. I know--crazy talk! The last casual bike I bought, a couple of weeks ago, did come with a kickstand, and even had the mount built into the frame so no top plate was needed. |
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landotter wrote:
:On Sep 22, 4:46*pm, Rocket J Squirrel :wrote: : My eyes are not fooling me: the Pletscher kickstand at : : http://www.rivbike.com/images/produc...1/20-139-1.jpg : : looks to be mounted to a handy bracket on that bike. :I just mounted a Greenfield to that 60s folder...with a kickstand late. Looks great and makes me wonder why why why American casual :bikes don't come with these any more. Especially with the trend to top :swing mechs. It wouldn't cost much. I know--crazy talk! A fair number of low-end casual bikes do come with kickstands. Many even have a threaded boss on the chainstay bridge to mount one. It's only fancier bikes that don't have a kickstand. Mostly that's because the people who sell them have an irrational fear of practical bikes. |
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On Sep 24, 10:16 am, David Scheidt wrote:
landotter wrote: :On Sep 22, 4:46 pm, Rocket J Squirrel :wrote: : My eyes are not fooling me: the Pletscher kickstand at : :http://www.rivbike.com/images/produc...1/20-139-1.jpg : : looks to be mounted to a handy bracket on that bike. :I just mounted a Greenfield to that 60s folder...with a kickstand late. Looks great and makes me wonder why why why American casual :bikes don't come with these any more. Especially with the trend to top :swing mechs. It wouldn't cost much. I know--crazy talk! A fair number of low-end casual bikes do come with kickstands. Many even have a threaded boss on the chainstay bridge to mount one. It's only fancier bikes that don't have a kickstand. Mostly that's because the people who sell them have an irrational fear of practical bikes. Oy, I was at the LBS today picking up that kickstand when an LHT and its owner walked in. I immediately complimented the owner on a smart choice and we got to jammin about how nice a spec it is, and also what a bit of a chore the build was--and a shop employee, whose even initial I won't give, gives the "well--you should have ordered it from the LBS guilt trip" BS. And this is where it goes into practical bikes--I sort of bit my tongue--but I wanted to scream--if you guys would ****ing stocking a normal useful bike like a Surly LHT that's about the most "universal" thing out there that's high quality, then folks wouldn't be so apt to go online. Most folks don't see a bike online and then think, "OK, that's great, let's see if my LBS can get it". They see that the LBS doesn't get it, have trouble assembling it, then bring it to the LBS for assembling-- which gives the LBS their bread and butter in profit--wrenching. The last thing folks need is guilt thrown towards them in buying a product online that a local bike shop didn't find value showing on the sales floor-though it's quite popular. What's stopping a Kona/Cannondale dealer from showing Surlys on the floor? Anything? Sales agreements? Sheer knuckleheadness? It just seems stupid to not have five built Cross-Checks and a couple 54-58 LHTs on the floor considering bike fashion these days, but the LBS, as cooler as they are compared to the rest of the city's LBS's (and that's a LOT cooler), ain't doing it. To their credit--they do have a 56cm Honky Tonk in the window. Hot dang is it 1988 all the time on future steroids. I want.. :-D /rant |
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On Sep 23, 9:06*pm, landotter wrote:
On Sep 24, 10:16 am, David Scheidt wrote: landotter wrote: :On Sep 22, 4:46 pm, Rocket J Squirrel :wrote: : My eyes are not fooling me: the Pletscher kickstand at : :http://www.rivbike.com/images/produc...1/20-139-1.jpg : : looks to be mounted to a handy bracket on that bike. :I just mounted a Greenfield to that 60s folder...with a kickstand late. Looks great and makes me wonder why why why American casual :bikes don't come with these any more. Especially with the trend to top :swing mechs. It wouldn't cost much. I know--crazy talk! A fair number of low-end casual bikes do come with kickstands. *Many even have a threaded boss on the chainstay bridge to mount one. *It's only fancier bikes that don't have a kickstand. *Mostly that's because the people who sell them have an irrational fear of practical bikes. Oy, I was at the LBS today picking up that kickstand when an LHT and its owner walked in. I immediately complimented the owner on a smart choice and we got to jammin about how nice a spec it is, and also what a bit of a chore the build was--and a shop employee, whose even initial I won't give, gives the "well--you should have ordered it from the LBS guilt trip" BS. And this is where it goes into practical bikes--I sort of bit my tongue--but I wanted to scream--if you guys would ****ing stocking a normal useful bike like a Surly LHT that's about the most "universal" thing out there that's high quality, then folks wouldn't be so apt to go online. I'm at Interbike today, and I saw several LHTs scattered around different booths. Also the new Civia line from QBP. It's frustrating for Surly and Civia and the like that they can't get the LBS's to stock their products, but they said that the problem is that so many shops are "tied" shops and can't stock any bicycles from other manufacturers, and even can't stock accessories that their "tied" manufacturer markets, even when the "tied" accessories are really bad. At least Surly is willing to sell through other channels, though that may also be why more shops are not carrying them. Interesting show, very different than the Taipei International Cycle Show. A ridiculous number of electric bicycles, that no one is buying. A large number of very cool roadsters, but alas the roadster is now a $1000+ boutique item. I'll post photos of the show tomorrow. Lots of kickstands. Lots of new racks. Lots of new lights. Even Bor Yueh was here! |
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Chinese Bicycle Guy aka Steven M. Scharf wrote:
[...] Interesting show, very different than the Taipei International Cycle Show. A ridiculous number of electric bicycles, that no one is buying. A large number of very cool roadsters, but alas the roadster is now a $1000+ boutique item.[...] A roadster should be inexpensive enough to leave locked up outside the shop. -- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia “the bacteria people tuned in-as to bioengineering at the correct wave Point” - gene daniels |
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Chinese Bicycle Guy aka Steven M. Scharf wrote:
[...] Interesting show, very different than the Taipei International Cycle Show. A ridiculous number of electric bicycles, that no one is buying. A large number of very cool roadsters, but alas the roadster is now a $1000+ boutique item.[...] Tom Sherman wrote: A roadster should be inexpensive enough to leave locked up outside the shop. New Pashleys are $1300 -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** |
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Chinese Bicycle Guy wrote:
It's frustrating for Surly and Civia and the like that they can't get the LBS's to stock their products, but they said that the problem is that so many shops are "tied" shops and can't stock any bicycles from other manufacturers, and even can't stock accessories that their "tied" manufacturer markets, even when the "tied" accessories are really bad. At least Surly is willing to sell through other channels, though that may also be why more shops are not carrying them. That sounds like a problem that will resolve itself in due course, to the disadvantage of the overreaching manufacturers. Chalo |
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David Scheidt wrote:
A fair number of low-end casual bikes do come with kickstands. *Many even have a threaded boss on the chainstay bridge to mount one. *It's only fancier bikes that don't have a kickstand. *Mostly that's because the people who sell them have an irrational fear of practical bikes. * The two '00s Cannondale touring bikes I have owned came with welded-in kickstand plates. The '80s and '90s Cannondales I have owned were not so equipped. So at least that one manufacturer seems to be getting it more right now than in the past. Chalo |
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A. Muzi wrote:
Chinese Bicycle Guy aka Steven M. Scharf wrote: [...] Interesting show, very different than the Taipei International Cycle Show. A ridiculous number of electric bicycles, that no one is buying. A large number of very cool roadsters, but alas the roadster is now a $1000+ boutique item.[...] Tom Sherman wrote: A roadster should be inexpensive enough to leave locked up outside the shop. New Pashleys are $1300 Well, that is still a lot less than a MercedesBMWAudiLexusAcuraInfiniti. -- Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007 If my posts in general annoy or offend, please kill-file. |
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