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Police plan to use stop and search at Royal Wedding.
On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 10:32:05 +0100, The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 17/04/2011 07:35, Doug wrote: Yet more police and State provocation? Its called maintaining public order you idiot. It is indeed a very great honour to be idiotted by the Meds. -- 67.4% of statistics are made up. |
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Police plan to use stop and search at Royal Wedding.
On Apr 17, 5:51*pm, JNugent wrote:
Doug wrote: Yet more police and State provocation? Presumably they will be stopping and searching innocent people in the process, while using anti-terror laws as an excuse? Critical Mass happens to coincide with the Wedding day so it can expect that its right to pass and repass on public roads in Central London to be severely curtailed by this totally disproportionate wedding demonstration... "Wedding demonstration"? What is being demonstrated? The insidiousness of an oligarchical Royalty in what purports to be a democracy? Or, an exploitative use of populist celebrity worship to attempt to reinforce the status of a declining royalty? -- . UK Radical Campaigns.(Recently updated). http://www.zing.icom43.net One person's democracy is another person's oligarchy, where rights are replaced by concessions. |
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Police plan to use stop and search at Royal Wedding.
On Apr 17, 6:33*pm, Maria wrote:
On 17/04/2011 07:35, Doug wrote: Yet more police and State provocation? Presumably they will be stopping and searching innocent people in the process, while using anti-terror laws as an excuse? Critical Mass happens to coincide with the Wedding day so it can expect that its right to pass and repass on public roads in Central London to be severely curtailed by this totally disproportionate wedding demonstration, which is bound to cause annoyance to many who have no choice in the matter and whose right to go about their daily business will be severely curtailed. What the police seem to forget is that State events such as this are an affront to all anti-authoritarians, who demand their right to protest politically against them without the police intervening and causing trouble. "...The Met plans to use stop-and-search powers and snatch squads to prevent trouble at the wedding on April 29. "We will not tolerate troublemakers who set out with the sole intention of causing disorder and committing crime," said a police spokeswoman. "Officers will respond swiftly to anyone seeking to mar this day of national celebration..." http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standa...-anarchists-pl... Maybe if MAC hadn't threatened to do something on the Royal Wedding day, it would not be necessary. http://www.muslimsagainstcrusades.com/ You have a point but it should be easy for the cops to contain and isolate them without kettling and penalising peaceful protesters. -- . UK Radical Campaigns.(Recently updated). http://www.zing.icom43.net One person's democracy is another person's oligarchy, where rights are replaced by concessions. |
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Police plan to use stop and search at Royal Wedding.
On Apr 17, 7:27*pm, Mike P wrote:
On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 08:41:50 -0700, Doug wibbled: On Apr 17, 9:54*am, "Norman Wells" wrote: Doug wrote: Yet more police and State provocation? Presumably they will be stopping and searching innocent people in the process, while using anti-terror laws as an excuse? Critical Mass happens to coincide with the Wedding day so it can expect that its right to pass and repass on public roads in Central London to be severely curtailed by this totally disproportionate wedding demonstration, which is bound to cause annoyance to many who have no choice in the matter and whose right to go about their daily business will be severely curtailed. What 'daily business' is it that Critical Mass do exactly, Doug? You seem confused, Norman. I was of course referring to the daily business of ALL road users in London during the Royal Wedding event and including the business of CM's customarily held procession on the last Friday of every month, which it has been holding for the last 17years and which the Royal Wedding happens to be intruding upon with the aid of the police. Doug, you have said many times in the past that the CM route is not planned in advance How, therefore, can the Wedding interfere with it, given that the police never have the knowledge of where the route is going to go? I anticipate that the wedding will be over by the time CM starts its ride but the police will probably still be out in force, literally looking for trouble as usual, and the road barriers etc may not have all been removed and impediments to traffic may still be around. -- . Critical Mass London. http://www.criticalmasslondon.org.uk "Get out of my way you f*ing cyclist" |
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Police plan to use stop and search at Royal Wedding.
On Apr 17, 11:03*pm, NotMe wrote:
On Apr 17, 6:33*pm, Maria wrote: On 17/04/2011 07:35, Doug wrote: Yet more police and State provocation? Presumably they will be stopping and searching innocent people in the process, while using anti-terror laws as an excuse? Critical Mass happens to coincide with the Wedding day so it can expect that its right to pass and repass on public roads in Central London to be severely curtailed by this totally disproportionate wedding demonstration, which is bound to cause annoyance to many who have no choice in the matter and whose right to go about their daily business will be severely curtailed. What the police seem to forget is that State events such as this are an affront to all anti-authoritarians, who demand their right to protest politically against them without the police intervening and causing trouble. "...The Met plans to use stop-and-search powers and snatch squads to prevent trouble at the wedding on April 29. "We will not tolerate troublemakers who set out with the sole intention of causing disorder and committing crime," said a police spokeswoman. "Officers will respond swiftly to anyone seeking to mar this day of national celebration..." http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standa...-anarchists-pl.... Maybe if MAC hadn't threatened to do something on the Royal Wedding day, it would not be necessary. http://www.muslimsagainstcrusades.com/ Not only MAC, but some of Dougs best friends as well. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...194766/Anarchi... The Whitechapel Anarchist Group, which admitted being involved in trouble at the first demonstration at Millbank in November, promised the riots were “only the beginning”. It threatened: “In order to win we need more violence on the streets. More smashed windows, more hospitalised coppers and many more assaults on royals.” So Doug, we have anarchists threatening pre-meditated violence, a few thugs trying to spoil the day for a lot of other people, and you complain that the police might be trying to stop them. From my viewpoint the Royal Wedding is an attempt to spoil the day for anarchists, NIMBYs, drivers and cyclists in Central London and republicans, to name just a few and I have little doubt that police, aka State, violence will be in use against protesters -- . UK Radical Campaigns.(Recently updated). http://www.zing.icom43.net One person's democracy is another person's oligarchy, where rights are replaced by concessions. |
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Police plan to use stop and search at Royal Wedding.
Doug gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying: From my viewpoint the Royal Wedding is an attempt to spoil the day for ... drivers ... in Central London That's a good thing, right? |
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Police plan to use stop and search at Royal Wedding.
On Apr 18, 7:35*am, Adrian wrote:
Doug gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: From my viewpoint the Royal Wedding is an attempt to spoil the day for ... drivers ... in Central London That's a good thing, right? I am attempting to look at things from your own viewpoint, which is that all processions, such as CM and the Royal Wedding, seriously interfere with an alleged driver's right to pass and repass while going about his daily business. The question for you therefore is, should all processions be banned? Doug. |
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Police plan to use stop and search at Royal Wedding.
Doug gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying: From my viewpoint the Royal Wedding is an attempt to spoil the day for ... drivers ... in Central London That's a good thing, right? I am attempting to look at things from your own viewpoint So when you said "from my viewpoint", you actually meant "from what I perceive your viewpoint to be"? which is that all processions, such as CM and the Royal Wedding, seriously interfere with an alleged driver's right to pass and repass while going about his daily business. The question for you therefore is, should all processions be banned? No, but they SHOULD liase with the police, local authority etc to ensure that disruption is both minimised and well managed. Somehow, I suspect the Royal Wedding organisers - despite it being a far more "customary procession" than CM - are doing precisely that, don't you? |
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Police plan to use stop and search at Royal Wedding.
"Doug" wrote in message
... I am attempting to look at things from your own viewpoint, which is that all processions, such as CM and the Royal Wedding, seriously interfere with an alleged driver's right to pass and repass while going about his daily business. In much the same way as a mass of cycling protesters? I assume when protesters impede traffic it is a different thing from a wedding or procession? Andy |
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Police plan to use stop and search at Royal Wedding.
"AndyW" gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying: In much the same way as a mass of cycling protesters? I assume when protesters impede traffic it is a different thing from a wedding or procession? No, no, no. When protesters impede everybody else, it IS a procession. One that - apparently - is as customary as a Royal Wedding. More so, probably, since the Royal Wedding organisers don't feel they have carte blanche to just do it, ignoring any liaison with the police or local authority. Clearly more so, too, than the Lord Mayor's Parade - which has been happening every year since 1535. |
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