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Another Mountain Biker Dies from a Heart Attack
On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:34:19 -0600, Tom Sherman
wrote: wrote: [...] Once again...are you making up another lie...that I am a mt biker? Are you gonna pretend to know this about me? Yeah...because that is what liars do! and you are a first class DICK and liar. Just for your info...I am not a Mt. Biker[...] You should consider taking up riding a bicycle off road, since it is an enjoyable activity when done with some common sense. No, it isn't! I tried it once. It was the most unpleasant time I have ever spent in a park: http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande/ebrpd16. You have to be pretty damaged to enjoy mountain biking. January 6, 2001 Board of Directors East Bay Regional Park District 2950 Peralta Oaks Court P.O. Box 5381 Oakland, California 94605-0381 Mountain Bike Races in Briones Regional Park Gentlepersons: Any rational person would think it absurd that our parks -- created to preserve a bit of pristine nature to be enjoyed forever -- would be used as places to house cattle or hold mountain bike races. But such a person could not be familiar with the East Bay Regional Park District, where such abuses are the rule, rather than the exception! The last race was held last September 23. I visited the park four days later, to document the damage that was done to the park. The race course was twenty miles long, so I knew I couldn't possibly hike it in a day. Consequently I borrowed a friend's mountain bike. It was lucky that I did, because I discovered that, contrary to what the mountain bikers claim, riding a bike off of paved roads is no fun at all! I rode only on fire roads, but even there, I was continually subject to violent jarring, due to the hoof- and tire-pocked "washboard" surface of the road. (I know that there are bikes with a so-called "suspension", but there is no way to make a ride like that "smooth" or enjoyable.) Not only was the ride physically very unpleasant, but having to continually watch the trail and try to control the bike meant that it was impossible to enjoy the scenery or listen to the subtle sounds of nature. So much for the mountain bikers' claims that they use bikes to "enjoy nature"! Not having my feet in contact with the ground further alienated me from the delightful sensations that I usually experience when I hike. I saw the usual damage -- bikes being ridden off-trail (e.g. east of the Abrigo Trail), trails getting rutted or torn into powder, skid marks, and "moonscape" caused by the presence of cows and bikes during wet conditions. Huge cracks cut through the surface of the road, where upcoming rains would carry away large chunks of the road. It is obvious that the erosion caused by bikes and cows will be extremely expensive to repair, if it is even repairable (eroded and destroyed soil is not coming back!)! I parked the bike at the east end of the Bear Creek Trail and hiked it and back, looking for bike tracks (it is part of the tiny percentage of park trails off-limits to bikes). Luckily, there were none. But I noticed that the feeling of ecstasy that I felt while being in this wild area of the park was present on none of the other trails. On the way back, I wanted to see if I could hike along the creek, to see something even more natural. But (luckily for the wildlife) it was impossible. However at one point on what must have been a deer trail, a large buck flushed from the thick brush near the creek. This was the only animal, other than a few birds, that I saw during those several hours in the park! Obviously, there is too much human- and cattle presence in the park, for wildlife to feel comfortable there. At one point (on the Deer Creek Trail?) I passed a small pond. It was almost completely filled with cattails. There were no frogs or other animals. And the entire surrounding bank was pockmarked by the hoofprints of cattle, making the area very difficult to walk on. Whatever nature had in mind for this pond certainly wasn't being allowed to happen. Normally, I am very attracted to water, and feel nothing but joy when I am around it. But here, I felt nothing but sorrow and disgust. Except for a few tiny spots that you haven't ruined, such as the Bear Creek Trail, being in Briones is indistinguishable from being on a ranch! There is no park there! It is completely dominated by man and his domestic animals! The cows have destroyed vast areas of what should be native flora and fauna. Their isobar-like trails dominate all the hillsides. The vast majority of the native wildlife capable of leaving have already left. Or died. A few animals able to "hold their noses" and put up with the presence of a lot of people (such as deer) are all that are left. After 33 years of owning this land, you should have been able to restore it to a semblance of its natural condition! Instead, it has remained just as artificial, unattractive, and biologically impoverished as every other place that is entirely dominated by humans. Removing such obvious insults as cattle and mountain biking should be easy. The hard part will be removing the huge network of roads (I know -- you call them "trails"!), and the acres of exotic plants and animals, that prevent this once-beautiful place from being what it so desperately wants and needs to be. Sincerely, Michael J. Vandeman, Ph.D. P.S. If you doubt the truth of what I am saying, just hike the Deer Creek Trail, and then the Bear Creek Trail, and see if they feel different to you! References: Foreman, Dave Confessions of an Eco-Warrior, New York: Harmony Books, c. 1991 Knight, Richard L. and Kevin J. Gutzwiller, eds. Wildlife and Recreationists. Covelo, California: Island Press, c.1995. Liddle, Michael, Recreation Ecology. London: Chapman & Hall, c.1997. Vandeman, Michael J., http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande, especially " The Effects of Mountain Biking on Wildlife and People -- Why Off-Road Bicycling Should be Prohibited " and "Rethinking the Impacts of Recreation". -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande |
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Another Mountain Biker Dies from a Heart Attack
On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 05:28:06 -0800 (PST), "
wrote: On Feb 20, 11:34*pm, Tom Sherman wrote: wrote: [...] Once again...are you making up another lie...that I am a mt biker? Are you gonna pretend to know this about me? Yeah...because that is what liars do! and you are a first class DICK and liar. Just for your info...I am not a Mt. Biker[...] You should consider taking up riding a bicycle off road, since it is an enjoyable activity when done with some common sense. -- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia The weather is here, wish you were beautiful I think you are right Tom...and besides the pleasure of being able to **** off Mikey. Once again Mike...you're response says NOTHING. Where's your brilliant articles...etc.? they don't exist. If they do...they copy other minds and not you're own...You are a sheep. Let's hear it. Better yet...the type of advocacy groups you support say a great deal about a person. I can almost guarentee you which ones you belong to. Go on, continue hanging yourself. -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande |
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Another Mountain Biker Dies from a Heart Attack
On Feb 21, 8:51*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 05:28:06 -0800 (PST), " wrote: On Feb 20, 11:34*pm, Tom Sherman wrote: wrote: [...] Once again...are you making up another lie...that I am a mt biker? Are you gonna pretend to know this about me? Yeah...because that is what liars do! and you are a first class DICK and liar. Just for your info...I am not a Mt. Biker[...] You should consider taking up riding a bicycle off road, since it is an enjoyable activity when done with some common sense. -- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia The weather is here, wish you were beautiful I think you are right Tom...and besides the pleasure of being able to **** off Mikey. Once again Mike...you're response says NOTHING. Where's your brilliant articles...etc.? they don't exist. If they do...they copy other minds and not you're own...You are a sheep. *Let's hear it. Better yet...the type of advocacy groups you support say a great deal about a person. I can almost guarentee you which ones you belong to. Go on, continue hanging yourself. On the contrary, sounds like he's got the goods on you. |
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Another Mountain Biker Dies from a Heart Attack
Go on, continue hanging yourself. -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Finally..Lots of references...to other's articles and a letter from you...looks like a letter to the editor..a letter. Yawn. Still no facts or evidence. You continue your downward slide of crediblity if you had one to begin. Hang myself...no thanks. It is far more fun to watch you dwaddle in your misery and produce repeatedly no real results. And still no answers. Mike Vanderman, that lying *******, continues to squawk without any spine. And you portray an entire website..full of other's quotes and views. You are pathetic. Where, again, are your ideas...you haven't a single one. It is absolutely, in the flesh evidence...you have no mind of your own. You are a Sheep. And you actually have a link on there for the Sierra Club...LOL. here's a thought. study up now. The Sierra Club offers a wonderful gift for your donation to their PROFIT organization that supports politicians you do nothing to support the environment once they are in office...the club uses their funds to vote in for their beneft. While they get fat up top and portray this environment loving policy...and with your donation...you get a guenuine Sierra club jacket, fanny pack (I know you wear one MIkey), rainacket, windbreaker,or backpack...etc. ALL MADE IN CHINA! You ****ing tard. You worthless DOLT. A country that destroys the entire environment and Mike, The hipocrit and fake and liar supports this environment destroying organization and country. Do you see any sense to this??? Fly in a plane...support a organization that rapes the public and supports a country that kills the enviroment. You're a joke! The evidence is all in your page!! You hang yourself! Not the other way around. You can never counter these claims! The facts are there...grab you local wasted mailings from Sierra and see the free offer of Chinese products then peer at the tons of links to Sierra of his worthless site. I especially love ending the page with a quote...Don't trash some of the famous people by putting them on your senseless site. But it is at least nice to end on a truthful note...that you use nothing but others ideas. The proof is in the site. LOL. You fraud. |
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Another Mountain Biker Dies from a Heart Attack
On Feb 22, 4:24*am, "
wrote: Go on, continue hanging yourself. -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande-Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Finally..Lots of references...to other's articles and a letter from you...looks like a letter to the editor..a letter. Yawn. Still no facts or evidence. You continue your downward slide of crediblity if you had one to begin. Hang myself...no thanks. It is far more fun to watch you dwaddle in your misery and produce repeatedly no real results. And still no answers. Mike Vanderman, that lying *******, continues to squawk without any spine. And you portray an entire website..full of other's quotes and views. You are pathetic. Where, again, are your ideas...you haven't a single one. It is absolutely, in the flesh evidence...you have no mind of your own. You are a Sheep. And you actually have a link on there for the Sierra Club...LOL. here's a thought. study up now. The Sierra Club offers a wonderful gift for your donation to their PROFIT organization that supports politicians you do nothing to support the environment once they are in office...the club uses their funds to vote in for their beneft. While they get fat up top and portray this environment loving policy...and with your donation...you get a guenuine Sierra club jacket, fanny pack (I know you wear one MIkey), rainacket, windbreaker,or backpack...etc. ALL MADE IN CHINA! You ****ing tard. You worthless DOLT. A country that destroys the entire environment and Mike, The hipocrit and fake and liar supports this environment destroying organization and country. Do you see any sense to this??? Fly in a plane...support a organization that rapes the public and supports a country that kills the enviroment. You're a joke! The evidence is all in your page!! You hang yourself! Not the other way around. You can never counter these claims! The facts are there...grab you local wasted mailings from Sierra and see the free offer of Chinese products then peer at the tons of links to Sierra of his worthless site. I especially love ending the page with a quote...Don't trash some of the famous people by putting them on your senseless site. But it is at least nice to end on a truthful note...that you use nothing but others ideas. The proof is in the site. LOL. You fraud. Mike got kicked out of the Sierra Club, rumor has it that he got the boot because he showed an unhealthy obsession for the scrotums of other members. |
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Another Mountain Biker Dies from a Heart Attack
the site. LOL. You fraud.
Mike got kicked out of the Sierra Club, rumor has it that he got the boot because he showed an unhealthy obsession for the scrotums of other members.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah...I gotta admit. Even I am shocked at what I was informed about here...Mikey got ousted from the Sierra Club...seems even they couldn't support some of his promotion of illegal activities like stringing piano wire across trails, creating other hurtful hazards, his child porn fetish. Seems the orgainization that will take money from anyone with a pulse wouldn't even tolerate him. Many of his organizations "locally" are under scrutiny for their promotion of hurtful techniques. Next he'll be on the PETA bandwagon and an official member and I do mean "member" with ALF. It also is rumored he was under pressure for his using the age old promotion of "save water, shower together"...seems some members laughed at first til they found out he was steering toward only the males in the club. Well I have to sign off for a bit, I actually save lives for a living and I don't consider my nature supporting activities of actually WORK nor do I profit off it.I gotta get outside here quick too...seems PacBell iditots are CUTTING all the nice trees for the sake of technology...glad I don't work there!!!! |
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Another Mountain Biker Dies from a Heart Attack
On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:13:13 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane
wrote: On Feb 21, 8:51*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote: On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 05:28:06 -0800 (PST), " wrote: On Feb 20, 11:34*pm, Tom Sherman wrote: wrote: [...] Once again...are you making up another lie...that I am a mt biker? Are you gonna pretend to know this about me? Yeah...because that is what liars do! and you are a first class DICK and liar. Just for your info...I am not a Mt. Biker[...] You should consider taking up riding a bicycle off road, since it is an enjoyable activity when done with some common sense. -- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia The weather is here, wish you were beautiful I think you are right Tom...and besides the pleasure of being able to **** off Mikey. Once again Mike...you're response says NOTHING. Where's your brilliant articles...etc.? they don't exist. If they do...they copy other minds and not you're own...You are a sheep. *Let's hear it. Better yet...the type of advocacy groups you support say a great deal about a person. I can almost guarentee you which ones you belong to. Go on, continue hanging yourself. On the contrary, sounds like he's got the goods on you. Nope, without any SPECIFICS, it's obviously nothing but hot air. Mountain bikers never give any SPECIFICS, because then it would be obvious that they don't know what they are talking about. -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande |
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Another Mountain Biker Dies from a Heart Attack
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 01:24:22 -0800 (PST), "
wrote: Go on, continue hanging yourself. -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Finally..Lots of references...to other's articles and a letter from you...looks like a letter to the editor..a letter. Yawn. Still no facts or evidence. You continue your downward slide of crediblity if you had one to begin. Hang myself...no thanks. It is far more fun to watch you dwaddle in your misery and produce repeatedly no real results. And still no answers. Mike Vanderman, that lying *******, continues to squawk without any spine. And you portray an entire website..full of other's quotes and views. You are pathetic. Where, again, are your ideas...you haven't a single one. It is absolutely, in the flesh evidence...you have no mind of your own. You are a Sheep. And you actually have a link on there for the Sierra Club...LOL. here's a thought. study up now. The Sierra Club offers a wonderful gift for your donation to their PROFIT organization that supports politicians you do nothing to support the environment once they are in office...the club uses their funds to vote in for their beneft. While they get fat up top and portray this environment loving policy...and with your donation...you get a guenuine Sierra club jacket, fanny pack (I know you wear one MIkey), rainacket, windbreaker,or backpack...etc. ALL MADE IN CHINA! You ****ing tard. You worthless DOLT. A country that destroys the entire environment and Mike, The hipocrit and fake and liar supports this environment destroying organization and country. Do you see any sense to this??? Fly in a plane...support a organization that rapes the public and supports a country that kills the enviroment. You're a joke! The evidence is all in your page!! You hang yourself! Not the other way around. You can never counter these claims! The facts are there...grab you local wasted mailings from Sierra and see the free offer of Chinese products then peer at the tons of links to Sierra of his worthless site. I especially love ending the page with a quote...Don't trash some of the famous people by putting them on your senseless site. But it is at least nice to end on a truthful note...that you use nothing but others ideas. The proof is in the site. LOL. You fraud. Did you say something? -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande |
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Another Mountain Biker Dies from a Heart Attack
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 04:36:18 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane
wrote: On Feb 22, 4:24*am, " wrote: Go on, continue hanging yourself. -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande-Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Finally..Lots of references...to other's articles and a letter from you...looks like a letter to the editor..a letter. Yawn. Still no facts or evidence. You continue your downward slide of crediblity if you had one to begin. Hang myself...no thanks. It is far more fun to watch you dwaddle in your misery and produce repeatedly no real results. And still no answers. Mike Vanderman, that lying *******, continues to squawk without any spine. And you portray an entire website..full of other's quotes and views. You are pathetic. Where, again, are your ideas...you haven't a single one. It is absolutely, in the flesh evidence...you have no mind of your own. You are a Sheep. And you actually have a link on there for the Sierra Club...LOL. here's a thought. study up now. The Sierra Club offers a wonderful gift for your donation to their PROFIT organization that supports politicians you do nothing to support the environment once they are in office...the club uses their funds to vote in for their beneft. While they get fat up top and portray this environment loving policy...and with your donation...you get a guenuine Sierra club jacket, fanny pack (I know you wear one MIkey), rainacket, windbreaker,or backpack...etc. ALL MADE IN CHINA! You ****ing tard. You worthless DOLT. A country that destroys the entire environment and Mike, The hipocrit and fake and liar supports this environment destroying organization and country. Do you see any sense to this??? Fly in a plane...support a organization that rapes the public and supports a country that kills the enviroment. You're a joke! The evidence is all in your page!! You hang yourself! Not the other way around. You can never counter these claims! The facts are there...grab you local wasted mailings from Sierra and see the free offer of Chinese products then peer at the tons of links to Sierra of his worthless site. I especially love ending the page with a quote...Don't trash some of the famous people by putting them on your senseless site. But it is at least nice to end on a truthful note...that you use nothing but others ideas. The proof is in the site. LOL. You fraud. Mike got kicked out of the Sierra Club Nope, just another of your LIES. -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande |
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Another Mountain Biker Dies from a Heart Attack
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:22:33 -0800 (PST), "
wrote: the site. LOL. You fraud. Mike got kicked out of the Sierra Club, rumor has it that he got the boot because he showed an unhealthy obsession for the scrotums of other members.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah...I gotta admit. Even I am shocked at what I was informed about here...Mikey got ousted from the Sierra Club More LIES. Mountain bikers are TRANSPARENT. -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande |
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