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The Psychology of Opinions, No Facts.
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 09:01:10 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote: "Vandeman" != "VandeRman" (cap added for emphasis). What is your point? Either way, he still lied. -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to It isn't all about you mike. In fact...it is never about you. Well..it does make fun of you...which is amusing. you keep bringing it up in hopes that peopel will believe it is YOU and not Mike VandeRman who comes up under the search in images...so please. stop trying to pawn yourself off as this physically fit young gentleman...you're a washed up wannabe new age hippie... It's not me OR anyone called "Mike Vanderman". That's your LIE. Still waiting for your explanation of why you deliberately LIED, Walter Skrzypek : "I found this picture of Mike Vanderman protesting a bike race...he is trying to run down the biker...that crazy Mike!! He's always good for a laugh. http://bikehugger.com/images/blog/nugget-thumb.jpg" You aren't going to live this down, until you admit your dishonesty. -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande |
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The Psychology of Opinions, No Facts.
On Aug 12, 11:19*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 09:01:10 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: "Vandeman" != "VandeRman" (cap added for emphasis). What is your point? Either way, he still lied. -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to It isn't all about you mike. In fact...it is never about you. Well..it does make fun of you...which is amusing. you keep bringing it up in hopes that peopel will believe it is YOU and not Mike VandeRman who comes up under the search in images...so please. stop trying to pawn yourself off as this physically fit young gentleman...you're a washed up wannabe new age hippie... It's not me OR anyone called "Mike Vanderman". That's your LIE. Maybe so, but you can't deny that "washed up wannabe new age hippie" accusation. |
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The Psychology of Opinions, No Facts.
It isn't all about you mike. In fact...it is never about you. Well..it does make fun of you...which is amusing. you keep bringing it up in hopes that peopel will believe it is YOU and not Mike VandeRman who comes up under the search in images...so please. stop trying to pawn yourself off as this physically fit young gentleman...you're a washed up wannabe new age hippie... It's not me OR anyone called "Mike Vanderman". That's your LIE. WE know it isn't you..that dude is physically fit! So stop trying to turn the point...and there is too a Mike VandeRman... |
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The Psychology of Opinions, No Facts.
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:58:35 -0700 (PDT), Siskuwihane
wrote: On Aug 12, 11:19*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote: On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 09:01:10 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: "Vandeman" != "VandeRman" (cap added for emphasis). What is your point? Either way, he still lied. -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to It isn't all about you mike. In fact...it is never about you. Well..it does make fun of you...which is amusing. you keep bringing it up in hopes that peopel will believe it is YOU and not Mike VandeRman who comes up under the search in images...so please. stop trying to pawn yourself off as this physically fit young gentleman...you're a washed up wannabe new age hippie... It's not me OR anyone called "Mike Vanderman". That's your LIE. Maybe so, but you can't deny that "washed up wannabe new age hippie" accusation. BS. That's nothing but stereotyping, and has NOTHING to do with me. How can you not be a mountain biker, when you lie as much as they do????? -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande |
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The Psychology of Opinions, No Facts.
On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 06:40:26 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote: It isn't all about you mike. In fact...it is never about you. Well..it does make fun of you...which is amusing. you keep bringing it up in hopes that peopel will believe it is YOU and not Mike VandeRman who comes up under the search in images...so please. stop trying to pawn yourself off as this physically fit young gentleman...you're a washed up wannabe new age hippie... It's not me OR anyone called "Mike Vanderman". That's your LIE. WE know it isn't you..that dude is physically fit! And it isn't Mike Vanderman, either, LIAR. So stop trying to turn the point...and there is too a Mike VandeRman... BS. Prove it. -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande |
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The Psychology of Opinions, No Facts.
I already proved that there is indeed a Mike VandeRman ages ago in
another post. You do the research. He is a very good archery player in the midwest and was sponsored by Eastman for awhile. But all that doesn't matter....you're still a washed up wanna be new age hippie...it is indeed stereotyping...which you do everyday when you say all mtbers are bad and then celebrating their injuries and deaths. You are stereotyping all MTBers...so it isn't all that bad to stereotype you, according to your brilliance and example...it is proper. |
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Michael J. Vandeman Removed From Sierra Club Wildlife CommitteeChair and Banned from Holding Leadership Positions
On Aug 13, 11:51*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:58:35 -0700 (PDT), Siskuwihane wrote: On Aug 12, 11:19*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote: On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 09:01:10 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: "Vandeman" != "VandeRman" (cap added for emphasis). What is your point? Either way, he still lied. -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to It isn't all about you mike. In fact...it is never about you. Well..it does make fun of you...which is amusing. you keep bringing it up in hopes that peopel will believe it is YOU and not Mike VandeRman who comes up under the search in images...so please. stop trying to pawn yourself off as this physically fit young gentleman...you're a washed up wannabe new age hippie... It's not me OR anyone called "Mike Vanderman". That's your LIE. Maybe so, but you can't deny that "washed up wannabe new age hippie" accusation. BS. That's nothing but stereotyping, and has NOTHING to do with me. How can you not be a mountain biker, when you lie as much as they do????? This isn't a lie...(not eht epart about Michael J. Vandeman contacting someones employer, how low is that?) Shaun Reid, President of the Bicycle Trails Council of the East Bay posted on the imba advocacy listserve As a general rule, I ignore the various postings and rants of Mike Vandeman, although I do have occasional encounters with him at local Sierra Club meetings. However, as there has been some recent discussion about him on this list, I thought you might find this bit of news interesting. For a little background, Mike reported Steve Krieg, local chapter chair of the Sierra Club to his employer, Bank of America, for using company e-mail for SC business. Some of you may recall that Steve Krieg was the one who supported the Sierra Club's welcoming of our Trail Care Crew. That welcome was subsequently rescinded following a motion by anti-mountain bike SCers. End result: Mike has been stripped of his role as Chair of the Bay Chapter's Wildlife Committee and it has been recommended that he be banned from holding leadership positions due to a breach of leadership trust. Shaun Reid Bay Area IMBA Rep President, BTCEB ITEM 2. MINUTES OF THE OCTOBER 2002 MEETINGS Minutes of the Executive Committee DRAFT Sierra Club San Francisco Bay Chapter October 14, 2002 4. EXECUTIVE SESSION: Disciplinary Committee Report ExCom met in Executive Session from 8:00 to 8:45 p.m.. EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE RECONVENED: Rizzo reported the outcome of Executive Session: Following the Disciplinary Committee report from Rizzo and Stout, a motion MS (Solotar; Macris) for disciplinary action regarding Mike Vandeman was amended by MS (Bloom; McLean) to be voted on as two separate actions, with the results as follows: 1) Motion to remove Mike Vandeman from his appointed position as Wildlife Committee Chair for the Chapter, with reinstatement only by action from ExCom, was approved with 11 in favor; 0 opposed; 3 abstaining. 2) Motion to send a letter to the Organizational Effectiveness Governance Committee (OEG Com) recommending BOLT (Breach of Leadership Trust) action to ban Mike Vandeman from holding leadership positions in the Sierra Club passed with 7 in favor; 4 opposed; 3 abstaining. |
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The Psychology of Opinions, No Facts.
On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 03:01:41 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote: I already proved that there is indeed a Mike VandeRman ages ago in another post. You do the research. He is a very good archery player in the midwest and was sponsored by Eastman for awhile. But the guy you labelled "Mike Vanderman" in your news post was NOT named "Mike Vandeman" nor "Mike Vanderman", LIAR. I'm sure you have no idea what his name is. But all that doesn't matter....you're still a washed up wanna be new age hippie...it is indeed stereotyping...which you do everyday when you say all mtbers are bad and then celebrating their injuries and deaths. You are stereotyping all MTBers...so it isn't all that bad to stereotype you, according to your brilliance and example...it is proper. I don't stereotype. I just tell the truth -- something mountain bikers can't stand. Still waiting for your explanation of why you deliberately LIED, Walter Skrzypek : "I found this picture of Mike Vanderman protesting a bike race...he is trying to run down the biker...that crazy Mike!! He's always good for a laugh. http://bikehugger.com/images/blog/nugget-thumb.jpg" You aren't going to live this down, until you admit your dishonesty. -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande |
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The Psychology of Opinions, No Facts.
On Aug 14, 11:17*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 03:01:41 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: I already proved that there is indeed a Mike VandeRman ages ago in another post. You do the research. He is a very good archery player in the midwest and was sponsored by Eastman for awhile. But the guy you labelled "Mike Vanderman" in your news post was NOT named "Mike Vandeman" nor "Mike Vanderman", LIAR. I'm sure you have no idea what his name is. *But all that doesn't matter....you're still a washed up wanna be new age hippie...it is indeed stereotyping...which you do everyday when you say all mtbers are bad and then celebrating their injuries and deaths. You are stereotyping all MTBers...so it isn't all that bad to stereotype you, according to your brilliance and example...it is proper. I don't stereotype. I just tell the truth -- something mountain bikers can't stand. Still waiting for your explanation of why you deliberately LIED, Walter Skrzypek : "I found this picture of Mike Vanderman protesting a bike race...he is trying to run down the biker...that crazy Mike!! He's always good for a laugh. http://bikehugger.com/images/blog/nugget-thumb.jpg" You aren't going to live this down, until you admit your dishonesty. In regards to The Sierra Club, Michael J. Vandeman was stripped of his role as Chair of the Bay Chapter's Wildlife Committee and banned from holding leadership positions due to a breach of leadership trust. Michael J. Vandeman was trying to find out where I work because he contacts employers of those who do not agree with him. He reported Steve Krieg, local chapter chair of the Sierra Club to his employer, for using company e-mail for SC business. |
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The Psychology of Opinions, No Facts.
On Aug 14, 11:17*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 03:01:41 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: I already proved that there is indeed a Mike VandeRman ages ago in another post. You do the research. He is a very good archery player in the midwest and was sponsored by Eastman for awhile. But the guy you labelled "Mike Vanderman" in your news post was NOT named "Mike Vandeman" nor "Mike Vanderman", LIAR. I'm sure you have no idea what his name is. *But all that doesn't matter....you're still a washed up wanna be new age hippie...it is indeed stereotyping...which you do everyday when you say all mtbers are bad and then celebrating their injuries and deaths. You are stereotyping all MTBers...so it isn't all that bad to stereotype you, according to your brilliance and example...it is proper. I don't stereotype. I just tell the truth -- something mountain bikers can't stand. Still waiting for your explanation of why you deliberately LIED, Walter Skrzypek : "I found this picture of Mike Vanderman protesting a bike race...he is trying to run down the biker...that crazy Mike!! He's always good for a laugh. http://bikehugger.com/images/blog/nugget-thumb.jpg" You aren't going to live this down, until you admit your dishonesty. -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande Vandeman...you're such a liar...i wouldn't expect anything less from a Mountain biker such as yourself. |
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