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"This is Called 'Car Punching'"
Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
"CJ" wrote in message ... Mike Jacoubowsky wrote: ... But when she does the weather, it's always about your morning commute in your CAR. Why is that? I can't believe you asked that. Think for a minute, There are hundreds of thousands of people who commute by car and perhaps a couple of thousand people who commute by bicycle. Where do you think the programming, and more importantly, the advertising dollars are going to be spent. -- Cliff Cliff: Consider that Channel 5 was running all sorts of stuff about May being bike-to-work month. It's a natural tie-in, and I don't think you're going to be offending the car drivers doing so. No argument here. In fact, one could point out that, the more people there are who ride to work, the less-congested the highways will be, and in fact we'd have lower gas prices too. Reduce demand and good things happen all around. I don't understand why everything has to be put in a car-bike confrontation mindset. A properly-designed transportation system makes it easier for everybody to get around, whether for some reason they have to drive or they can ride or walk or take public transportation. Utopia is a nice concept but will never happen. In the meantime we have to put up with realities. Orders of magnitude more people drive to work than bicycle to work in the Bay area. But getting back to the specifics, just what exactly would the car drivers find so offensive about Roberta mentioning that cyclists had better be prepared for a wet commute and slick streets? Do you really think that car drivers are going to change channels because of that? It's not as if she's telling people to get out of their cars and ride their bikes. Again, no argument here. It was just the apparent naivete of your remark that I responded to. -- Cliff |
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"This is Called 'Car Punching'"
"CJ" wrote in message
... Utopia is a nice concept but will never happen. In the meantime we have to put up with realities. Orders of magnitude more people drive to work than bicycle to work in the Bay area. Maybe you're missing what's going on in the car business. Do you understand what it means that GM and Chrysler are in bankruptsy? Do you understand that implies that the cost of autos is likely to skyrocket in the next 5 years? What do you suppose the end result of that would be? |
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"This is Called 'Car Punching'"
"Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote in message
m... "CJ" wrote in message ... Utopia is a nice concept but will never happen. In the meantime we have to put up with realities. Orders of magnitude more people drive to work than bicycle to work in the Bay area. Maybe you're missing what's going on in the car business. Do you understand what it means that GM and Chrysler are in bankruptsy? Do you understand that implies that the cost of autos is likely to skyrocket in the next 5 years? What do you suppose the end result of that would be? Tom: I don't think *any* of us understand that the bankruptcy of GM & Chrysler mean yet. It's still a world market for both manufacturing and sales of automobiles, so I doubt that costs will skyrocket, especially since one of the main purposes of large-scale biz bankruptcies is to offload continuing healthcare & retirement benefits to the government. Yes, fewer dealers will likely mean less competition and higher profit for each remaining dealer, but that isn't a huge percentage of the ultimate cost of the car to the consumer. Ultimately the race will be to see who can manufacture more efficiently and drive down costs. Profits can only go so high because competition does exist, not just from whatever's left of domestic car companies, but Honda, Toyota, Kia, and who knows what might emerge some day from India. The main thing we *have* learned is that the car business is susceptible to the same issues that affect every other business. Cost of materials, labor, demand for product, utility of product, and ongoing cost of operating that product. Cars are no longer considered such an essential part of American Life that everything about them exists within a protective bubble. --Mike Jacoubowsky Chain Reaction Bicycles www.ChainReaction.com Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote in message m... "CJ" wrote in message ... Utopia is a nice concept but will never happen. In the meantime we have to put up with realities. Orders of magnitude more people drive to work than bicycle to work in the Bay area. Maybe you're missing what's going on in the car business. Do you understand what it means that GM and Chrysler are in bankruptsy? Do you understand that implies that the cost of autos is likely to skyrocket in the next 5 years? What do you suppose the end result of that would be? |
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"This is Called 'Car Punching'"
Tom Kunich wrote:
"CJ" wrote in message ... Utopia is a nice concept but will never happen. In the meantime we have to put up with realities. Orders of magnitude more people drive to work than bicycle to work in the Bay area. Maybe you're missing what's going on in the car business. Do you understand what it means that GM and Chrysler are in bankruptsy? Do you understand that implies that the cost of autos is likely to skyrocket in the next 5 years? What do you suppose the end result of that would be? Everyone will be driving import vechicles as I have done for the last 40 years. Unfortunately, the american 'big three' automoble manufacturers have not built an economical and reliable car in recent history. -- Cliff |
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"This is Called 'Car Punching'"
"CJ" wrote in message
... Everyone will be driving import vechicles as I have done for the last 40 years. Unfortunately, the american 'big three' automoble manufacturers have not built an economical and reliable car in recent history. Psst - the Ford Focus has won all of the low priced car/low operating expenses/cheap repair prizes. Where have you been? |
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"This is Called 'Car Punching'"
Tom Kunich wrote:
"CJ" wrote in message ... Everyone will be driving import vechicles as I have done for the last 40 years. Unfortunately, the american 'big three' automoble manufacturers have not built an economical and reliable car in recent history. Psst - the Ford Focus has won all of the low priced car/low operating expenses/cheap repair prizes. Where have you been? According to whom??? You might want to peruse this site for a less than stellar report on the Focus http://www.edmunds.com/ford/focus/review.html Somehow I don't think your opinion is very credible. -- Cliff |
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"This is Called 'Car Punching'"
"CJ" wrote in message
... Tom Kunich wrote: Psst - the Ford Focus has won all of the low priced car/low operating expenses/cheap repair prizes. Where have you been? According to whom??? You might want to peruse this site for a less than stellar report on the Focus http://www.edmunds.com/ford/focus/review.html Somehow I don't think your opinion is very credible. Somehow I see that you avoid any written opinions differing from your own. |
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"This is Called 'Car Punching'"
Tom Kunich wrote:
"CJ" wrote in message ... Tom Kunich wrote: Psst - the Ford Focus has won all of the low priced car/low operating expenses/cheap repair prizes. Where have you been? According to whom??? You might want to peruse this site for a less than stellar report on the Focus http://www.edmunds.com/ford/focus/review.html Somehow I don't think your opinion is very credible. Somehow I see that you avoid any written opinions differing from your own. Especially when they are backed up by hot air as your opinions are. BTW where are your cites backing up your opinions??? You may also wish to peruse this site for more enlightenment on the Focus. http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com...s/Reliability/ -- Cliff |
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"This is Called 'Car Punching'"
Also effective is "Window Crumbling" where you take your
Kryptonite lock and swing it into the driver's window, causing it to shatter into thousands of tiny pieces covering their lap and scaring the holy living **** out of the hapless driver. |
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"This is Called 'Car Punching'"
Fence Tortoise wrote:
Also effective is "Window Crumbling" where you take your Kryptonite lock and swing it into the driver's window, causing it to shatter into thousands of tiny pieces covering their lap and scaring the holy living **** out of the hapless driver. Try that around here, and you will get run over. -- Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007 I am a vehicular cyclist. |
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