Where is the Attempted Murder Charge?

On 6/21/2011 12:14 AM, Edward Dolan wrote:
"T�m Sherm�n " wrote in message
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On 6/20/2011 7:46 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
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It is fine to cut taxes as long as you cut spending. Is this rocket
science
or what?

Except the people will not accept spending being cut, and the politicians
pander with false promises of tax cuts leading to *more* tax revenue,
instead of showing real leadership.

The first thing to do is to cut spending. Then we can talk about where taxes
should be.

We could start by ending the Zionist proxy wars against Iraq,
Afghanistan and Yemen. Ending the military occupation of Germany would
also result in substantial savings - the Warsaw Pact has been gone for
two (2) decades now.

However, the bill is soon coming due, when the Chinese and Saudis stop
buying US Treasury bonds. Then things will get ugly. We will see if the
anger gets directed at the true culprits (the Wall Street elite) or
towards the usual scapegoats (e.g. people of darker shades of skin color).

The true anger will need to be directed at Obama and the Dems who refuse to
cut spending. I think not even a Conservative congress and a Conservative
president can save us from what has been wrought by Obama and the Dems.

I used to think things would have to get worse before they could get better,
but now I think we have gone so far overboard that all that is left for us
is to become like the UK, second rate in every way.


More like Colombia than the UK, the way things are headed. Of course,
those who value power more than anything else would be happy at turning
the US into a 3rd World nation.

The real downfall has been creating central banks run by a select circle
of a few hundred international bankers, rather than democratic control
of monetary policy. Note that Bush II's "Axis of Evil" was really the
"Axis of Countries Without Central Banks". Of course, the last US
president to issue real currency (and not Federal Reserve Notes) was
assassinated.

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Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

On 6/21/2011 12:19 AM, Edward Dolan wrote:
"T�m Sherm�n " wrote in message
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On 6/20/2011 7:20 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
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I strongly advise that Mr. Sherman emigrate to France. He will be
happiest
there hating America and Americans like all the French do ... because
they
are jealous of us. Envy is the worst of all the vices because it gives no
pleasure.

Uh Ed, the only thing the French envy about the US is the amount of open
space.

A people who think Jerry Lewis was a great comedian are as ****ed up as you
are. Trust me, you will be right at home there.


Since the French convention is to dub foreign movies, I wonder if the
voice actor was a large improvement on the original?

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Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

On 6/21/2011 12:34 AM, Edward Dolan wrote:
"T�m Sherm�n " wrote in message
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On 6/20/2011 7:29 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
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Most societies in the non-Western world have a few rich and many poor
with
no middle class at all. As long as America has a strong middle class, we
can
continue mostly free, but once the middle class is destroyed, there is
absolutely nothing to prevent us from descending to Latin American
status.

Being poor and downtrodden has been the lot of most of humanity for most
of
our time on this earth. What else is new?

Pay attention Ed. The rich have been working to destroy the middle class
for as long as both have existed, in all nations and in all times.

The rich enjoy the freedom of a middle class dominated democracy just as
much as anyone else. They do not want to live in fortresses and have to have
body guards to protect them. How well off do you think the rich in Mexico
are compared to the American middle class?

Ed, you are neglecting more than two-thousand years of history.

Primarily, because one has to be a psychopath to become rich and powerful.

No, they just value wealth and control more than most of us do. The vast
majority of folks are more than satisfied with just a smattering of those
two things. It is a pity that you are not.

Ed Dolan, as usual, widely misses the mark.

Envy is the worst of all the vices because it gives no pleasure.


I do not envy the psychopathic rich. I wish to remove the parasites
from society, not join them in evil.

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Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

On 6/21/2011 12:58 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
"Ron wrote in message
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On Jun 20, 6:29 pm, "Edward wrote:
Most societies in the non-Western world have a few rich and many poor with
no middle class at all. As long as America has a strong middle class, we
can
continue mostly free, but once the middle class is destroyed, there is
absolutely nothing to prevent us from descending to Latin American status.

And do you not see that this is where we are headed? Lead by your
supposedly conservative politics.

We are headed in that direction all right, but it is due to your liberal
politics.

Why the hell don't liberals go all out and give us a socialist society.
Instead, they just nibble at the edges and live like parasites off the
capitalist economy. Liberals know how to impoverish an economy, but they
always stop short of destroying it (socialism). I say ****'em!


I agree with Ed that liberals are useless, which is why I a
universalist, and *not* a liberal.

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Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

On 2011-06-22, =?UTF-8?B?VMK6bSBTaGVybcKqbiDCsF/CsA==?= "" wrote:

Both wings of the duopoly are primarily funded by the same Wall Street
interests, so both fail to represent the people.

Without publicly funded elections and instant runoff voting, democracy
is dead at the federal and state levels in the US.

As Gore Vidal famously noted, "America has one political party with
two right wings."

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-John )

"Tºm Shermªn °_°" " wrote in message
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On 6/21/2011 12:14 AM, Edward Dolan wrote:
"T?m Sherm?n " wrote in
message
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On 6/20/2011 7:46 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
[...]
It is fine to cut taxes as long as you cut spending. Is this rocket
science
or what?

Except the people will not accept spending being cut, and the
politicians
pander with false promises of tax cuts leading to *more* tax revenue,
instead of showing real leadership.

The first thing to do is to cut spending. Then we can talk about where
taxes
should be.

We could start by ending the Zionist proxy wars against Iraq, Afghanistan
and Yemen. Ending the military occupation of Germany would also result in
substantial savings - the Warsaw Pact has been gone for two (2) decades
now.

I am fine with getting out of Europe, but the Middle East needs our presence
for the oil if for no other reason. We also need to keep Iran and Pakistan
boxed in.

However, the bill is soon coming due, when the Chinese and Saudis stop
buying US Treasury bonds. Then things will get ugly. We will see if
the
anger gets directed at the true culprits (the Wall Street elite) or
towards the usual scapegoats (e.g. people of darker shades of skin
color).

The true anger will need to be directed at Obama and the Dems who refuse
to
cut spending. I think not even a Conservative congress and a Conservative
president can save us from what has been wrought by Obama and the Dems.

I used to think things would have to get worse before they could get
better,
but now I think we have gone so far overboard that all that is left for
us
is to become like the UK, second rate in every way.


More like Colombia than the UK, the way things are headed. Of course,
those who value power more than anything else would be happy at turning
the US into a 3rd World nation.

Trump values power and I doubt he wants the US to be a 3rd world nation.

The real downfall has been creating central banks run by a select circle
of a few hundred international bankers, rather than democratic control of
monetary policy. Note that Bush II's "Axis of Evil" was really the "Axis
of Countries Without Central Banks". Of course, the last US president to
issue real currency (and not Federal Reserve Notes) was assassinated.

Bush had some guts to take on those countries that were a thorn in our side.
He belongs on Mt. Rushmore with the others. Now we are saddled with a
gutless wonder who does not have a clue about anything. He is even worse
than Carter, an outcome I hitherto thought was impossible.

--
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

On Jun 21, 11:29*am, Chalo wrote:
That's not true. *The super rich are not fairly taxed, and are not
currently putting their fortunes to uses that benefit society as a
whole.

I think you are missing the point... paying down the debt will result
in money being removed from the economy... at the time when we can
least afford to do it. It would be very painful.

"Tºm Shermªn °_°" " wrote in message
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On 6/21/2011 1:19 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
wrote in message
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Ron Ruff wrote:

The reason why Reagan, Bush I, and Bush II ran up huge deficits was
because it does in fact boost the economy. Of course this is
temporary. It's like putting extra spending money on the credit
card.
They did this to mask the fact that their socio-economic policies
were
gutting the middle class and ruining our economy. Then the pile of
financial fraud (a separate issue) finally hit the fan in 2008...
and
because the debt was already so high, we have no effective
response.

Paying down the debt will further tank the economy... there is no
way
around it... we are damned either way.

That's not true. The super rich are not fairly taxed, and are not
currently putting their fortunes to uses that benefit society as a
whole. The appearance of gratuitous, pointless financial derivatives
like CDOs were naked evidence of two things: taxation of the ultra-
wealthy was too low, and there were not enough disincentives for
economically unproductive investments. The result was destructively
rich people inventing destructive ways to try to multiply their
already excessive fortunes-- and predictably, the crash that
followed.

Let us say all of the above is true. Have either the Dems or Repubs ever
done anything to prevent any of it? I think not.
[...]

Both wings of the duopoly are primarily funded by the same Wall Street
interests, so both fail to represent the people.

Has it ever occurred to you that perhaps both the Repubs and the Dems
represent the people perfectly?

Without publicly funded elections and instant runoff voting, democracy is
dead at the federal and state levels in the US.

Democracy, like capitalism, is not perfect but it is still better than all
other systems.

--
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

"Tºm Shermªn °_°" " wrote in message
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On 6/21/2011 12:19 AM, Edward Dolan wrote:
[...]
A people who think Jerry Lewis was a great comedian are as ****ed up as
you
are. Trust me, you will be right at home there.

Since the French convention is to dub foreign movies, I wonder if the
voice actor was a large improvement on the original?

Jerry Lewis was an unfunny jerk in any language. Only morons ever thought he
was funny. But, as you should well know by now, I hate all comedy. It is for
juveniles.

--
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

"Tºm Shermªn °_°" " wrote in message
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On 6/21/2011 12:34 AM, Edward Dolan wrote:
[...]
The rich enjoy the freedom of a middle class dominated democracy just as
much as anyone else. They do not want to live in fortresses and have to
have
body guards to protect them. How well off do you think the rich in Mexico
are compared to the American middle class?

Ed, you are neglecting more than two-thousand years of history.

It has only been within the past hundred years or so that mankind has been
able to enjoy mass wealth throughout a society. The Romans ruled the world,
but the Roman people were as poor as church mice.

Primarily, because one has to be a psychopath to become rich and
powerful.

No, they just value wealth and control more than most of us do. The vast
majority of folks are more than satisfied with just a smattering of those
two things. It is a pity that you are not.

Ed Dolan, as usual, widely misses the mark.

Envy is the worst of all the vices because it gives no pleasure.

I do not envy the psychopathic rich. I wish to remove the parasites from
society, not join them in evil.

Nope, you envy them. It motivates your every utterance. I ignore them
because they do not matter to me. I am satisfied with a modicum of wealth
and power. Greed and envy is not part of my nature.

--
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota