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Murder Charge for Killing Cyclist
The guy that ran down and killed James Dein and injured Ted Aberg on
Highway 9 near Los Gatos on Feb 19 is being charged with second degree murder. See http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercu...9748146.htm?1c I wouldn't call it good news, but it is satisfactory in the circumstances if the prosecuter doesn't wimp out and plea bargain it to something less. Mike |
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On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 03:12:00 GMT, mmcgr wrote:
The guy that ran down and killed James Dein and injured Ted Aberg on Highway 9 near Los Gatos on Feb 19 is being charged with second degree murder. See http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercu...9748146.htm?1c I wouldn't call it good news, but it is satisfactory in the circumstances if the prosecuter doesn't wimp out and plea bargain it to something less. Mike I have the full text if anyone wants it - that site is asking for a log in, etc. -B |
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On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 23:31:36 -0400, Badger_South
wrote: On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 03:12:00 GMT, mmcgr wrote: The guy that ran down and killed James Dein and injured Ted Aberg on Highway 9 near Los Gatos on Feb 19 is being charged with second degree murder. See http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercu...9748146.htm?1c I wouldn't call it good news, but it is satisfactory in the circumstances if the prosecuter doesn't wimp out and plea bargain it to something less. Mike I have the full text if anyone wants it - that site is asking for a log in, etc. -B Yes, or paraphrase it. Was it a hit and run? I forget the details of the accident, it was quite a while back. |
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On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 03:12:00 GMT, mmcgr wrote:
The guy that ran down and killed James Dein and injured Ted Aberg on Highway 9 near Los Gatos on Feb 19 is being charged with second degree murder. See http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercu...9748146.htm?1c I wouldn't call it good news, but it is satisfactory in the circumstances if the prosecuter doesn't wimp out and plea bargain it to something less. Mike After having read the article, and how many chemicals this guy had in his system, plus the way he was driving, (apparently normal for him) makes me wish they could give out a first degree murder charge for this. Anybody who does PCP needs to be in jail to begin with, and anyone driving under the influence should be given 5 years mandatory jail time. That stuff is far worse than alcohol. Back in 1972 I knew a kid who thought he could outsmoke anyone with the stuff and they found him sitting on his Harley (that his parents bought him) in a puddle of **** and he could not even remember his name. Other hot shot drug users I knew went from being A+ students to vegetables by smoking cheap pot laced with it. This is one drug that should have extrememly strict sentencing, including life for manufacturing or selling, not to mention being stupid enough to use it. There's one driver I never want to see on the road again. Bill Baka -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ |
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Bill Baka wrote:
After having read the article, and how many chemicals this guy had in his system, plus the way he was driving, (apparently normal for him) makes me wish they could give out a first degree murder charge for this. I'm waiting to see this type of charge files for someone who wasn't under the influence, didn't flee the scene, but was just driving in a grossly negligent fashion. Cases like this one are so extreme, they don't provide much reassurance that the rights of cyclists to the roads are being respected. |
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Rick Warner wrote:
I think there is a hint that the prevailing wind has changed. The D.A. in Sonoma got full pleas from the two drunk drivers that killed cyclists up there this past spring, and the judge showed toughness in the first sentence. Now the SCC D.A. has shown a get tough attitude in making this charge. The momentum seems to be in the right direction, IMO. Progress, even if slow, is progress.... I should clarify, however. I don't necessarily want to see more murder charges. I have no problem at all with these cases falling under the definition of negligent homicide, and being charged as such. The problem is with the lack of homicide convictions, not too few murder charges. Even limiting it to the scope of vehicle code, I'd like to see a LOT MORE license revocations, for at least a year. That's the key thing -- get the bozos off the road. Then "driving without a license" and hitting someone could result in book-throwing. It was discussed previously the law in the Netherlands (I think) may be changed to allow those with stripped licenses to ride 40kph carts. This is a great idea, as it would make a license revocation more palatable to Americans. Dan |
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I should clarify, however. I don't necessarily want to see more
murder charges. I have no problem at all with these cases falling under the definition of negligent homicide, and being charged as such. The problem is with the lack of homicide convictions, not too few murder charges. Even limiting it to the scope of vehicle code, I'd like to see a LOT MORE license revocations, for at least a year. That's the key thing -- get the bozos off the road. Then "driving without a license" and hitting someone could result in book-throwing. It was discussed previously the law in the Netherlands (I think) may be changed to allow those with stripped licenses to ride 40kph carts. This is a great idea, as it would make a license revocation more palatable to Americans. The problem is that a large number of people with revoked licenses (most often for DUIs) continue to drive, and the penalty for getting caught doing so is apparently not enough to cause them to reconsider. And I seriously doubt such people would feel that being restricted to a vehicle that says "Hey, look at me, if I'm driving this I must be a drunkard" is going to encourage them to leave their weapon of mass destruction in the garage. We need to have an extraordinarily effective discouragement to being caught driving with a suspended license. Better yet would be a way to physically prevent such people from driving, but how that could be accomplished is beyond me. But once it's clear there are really serious ramifications to being caught, we might see some change in behaviour. Perhaps public service spots on TV and in newspapers, featuring the latest punishments given for DUI & related crimes? It wouldn't even have to list names, just the community where they reside, what they did, and what the sentence was. Obviously, the "easy" sentences wouldn't be included, just the ones that look nasty (hopefully there would be some). It would also be cool if you could list how much the lawyer was paid who didn't get the guy (or woman) off. Hey, we can always dream... --Mike Jacoubowsky Chain Reaction Bicycles www.ChainReaction.com IMBA, BikesBelong, NBDA member "Dan Connelly" wrote in message ... Rick Warner wrote: I think there is a hint that the prevailing wind has changed. The D.A. in Sonoma got full pleas from the two drunk drivers that killed cyclists up there this past spring, and the judge showed toughness in the first sentence. Now the SCC D.A. has shown a get tough attitude in making this charge. The momentum seems to be in the right direction, IMO. Progress, even if slow, is progress.... I should clarify, however. I don't necessarily want to see more murder charges. I have no problem at all with these cases falling under the definition of negligent homicide, and being charged as such. The problem is with the lack of homicide convictions, not too few murder charges. Even limiting it to the scope of vehicle code, I'd like to see a LOT MORE license revocations, for at least a year. That's the key thing -- get the bozos off the road. Then "driving without a license" and hitting someone could result in book-throwing. It was discussed previously the law in the Netherlands (I think) may be changed to allow those with stripped licenses to ride 40kph carts. This is a great idea, as it would make a license revocation more palatable to Americans. Dan |
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On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 03:12:00 GMT, mmcgr wrote:
The guy that ran down and killed James Dein and injured Ted Aberg on Highway 9 near Los Gatos on Feb 19 is being charged with second degree murder. See http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercu...9748146.htm?1c Requires login. Try email password mnews123 |
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