Odd interaction with a road rager

Sun, 05 Sep 2004 19:33:48 GMT,
,
(Muttley) wrote:

Summary:

Kerry - Served his country in a war zone - got decorated
Bush - Didn't

Analysis:

It's a diversion so the electorate doesn't begin to ask the hard
questions. Keep up the stream of blather so nobody thinks about the
1000+ dead US troops in this latest illegal war.

Both the neo-liberal and neo-conservative imperialist agendas should
be abhorrent to anyone pretending to have a modicum of human decency.
--
zk

"Muttley" wrote

At the end of the day, Kerry put his life on the line serving his country
in a
war zone. He was decorated for it.

Bush didn't.

Flying an F-102 on nuclear alert was not an especially 'safe' duty.
Especially for a pilot of an aircraft that was in service in Vietnam. And in
a unit that did send pilots to Vietnam.

Would you belittle vast majority of military personnel
(Active/Guard/Reserve) at the time that did not see time in SouthEast Asia?
(Probably)

Want a nice, 'safe' duty? Be like Clinton.

Summary:

Kerry - Served his country in a war zone - got decorated
Bush - Didn't

Kerry - Served his country
Bush - Served his country

Kerry - Came back and made statements that were used by North Vietnamese
jailors against US POWs
Bush - Didn't

Pete
[not that this will have any effect on your misconceptions]

On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 21:22:39 GMT, "Pete"
wrote:

blah, blah, blah

[not that this will have any effect on your misconceptions]

No misconceptions.

Dress it up any which way you like.

Chase it round the houses, run it up the flag pole.

Keep that up till midnight if you want.

End of the day?

Kerry: Put his life on the line serving his country in a war zone.
Bush: Stayed home and let others risk and lose their lives in that war zone.

"Muttley" wrote
On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 21:22:39 GMT, "Pete"

wrote:

blah, blah, blah

[not that this will have any effect on your misconceptions]

No misconceptions.


Nor any rebuttal. Just mindless drivel.

Pete

"Zoot Katz" wrote in message
...
It's a diversion so the electorate doesn't begin to ask the hard
questions. Keep up the stream of blather so nobody thinks about the
1000+ dead US troops in this latest illegal war.
Except that it isn't illegal.

Pete wrote:



Would you belittle vast majority of military personnel
(Active/Guard/Reserve) at the time that did not see time in SouthEast Asia?
(Probably)

My family includes a multi-wounded, combat decorated, Viet Nam 'copter
duty vet.

He was not the lucky one in the family. His duty left him some deep
scars. He doesn't talk about it much, and when he does, it's a very
quiet, serious conversation.

His take on the Guard duty Bush did:

"****. It was standing room only to get in the Guard in those days.
The guys that made it were the ones with connections. It was all about
money and connections."

And later in the conversation, he said "How do you think the guy got
into Yale?"

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Frank Krygowski wrote:
Pete wrote:



Would you belittle vast majority of military personnel
(Active/Guard/Reserve) at the time that did not see time in
SouthEast Asia? (Probably)

My family includes a multi-wounded, combat decorated, Viet Nam 'copter
duty vet.

He was not the lucky one in the family. His duty left him some deep
scars. He doesn't talk about it much, and when he does, it's a very
quiet, serious conversation.

His take on the Guard duty Bush did:

"****. It was standing room only to get in the Guard in those days.
The guys that made it were the ones with connections. It was all
about money and connections."

And later in the conversation, he said "How do you think the guy got
into Yale?"

Well, he earned the right to his opinion, at least. Don't forget that Bush
was (I believe) 3 years behind Kerry. The war and draft were much different
in, say, 1968 and '71. Who's to say what Kerry would have done later, as
HIS views on the war obviously changed dramatically by then. (Also, he
*did* enlist in the Naval Reserve I believe, which also wasn't a slam dunk
to go to VN and/or see combat. He had connections, too.)

I've got a feeling if Bush knew he'd run for President some day, he'd have
found a way to go to VN for 4 months, too -- and also with a film crew to
document it -- but probably wouldn't have betrayed the POWs /still back
there/ upon his return. (John McCain said as much in 1973, but he won't
repeat it now in order to be "VNC".)

Bill "it's Kerry's 30+ years AFTER Viet Nam that warrant scrutiny" S.

"S o r n i" wrote

Bill "it's Kerry's 30+ years AFTER Viet Nam that warrant scrutiny" S.

Exactly.
"What have you done for me lately?"

Pete

On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 22:42:56 GMT, "Pete"
wrote:


Nor any rebuttal. Just mindless drivel.


End of the day?

Kerry: Put his life on the line serving his country in a war zone.
Bush: Stayed home and let others risk and lose their lives in that war zone.

On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 06:25:17 GMT, "Pete"
wrote:


"S o r n i" wrote

Bill "it's Kerry's 30+ years AFTER Viet Nam that warrant scrutiny" S.

Exactly.
"What have you done for me lately?"

End of the day?

Kerry: Put his life on the line serving his country in a war zone.
Bush: Stayed home and let others risk and lose their lives in that war zone.