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"NYRides" wrote in message .net...
Sadly, I think the "other thing" that many people have going on in their lives is an underlying frustration with bicyclists who constantly ignore the rules of the road and are frequently a menace to drivers as they weave in and out of traffic, ride on the wrong side of the road, and blow through traffic lights. It is true that unruly cyclist give everyone a bad name. But in this case, the OP was not (at least did not say he was) breaking traffic laws. Peeling-out, unecessary horn-honking, aggressive lane changes are all hallmarks of road-ragers especially if the cyclist does not impede the travel of the car in any real way. I don't think that road-ragers have a special thing for cyclists. Slow, or temporarily stopped cars bring similar responses out of them. The difference is that the cyclist is in a vastly more vulnerable situation than a car. As I said before, road-ragers have some personal conflict going on that is unrelated to traffic. No one flys into a blood rage at a stranger over trivial traffic issues unless something much deeper is bugging them. The typical advice that authorities give to potential victims of road rage applies to cyclists too: 1) Don't provoke/escalate a confrontation by responding aggressively 2) Diffuse the situation by backing off, create distance, get out of the way |
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Truck driver is shot in face-off with cyclist Monday, February 09, 2004 By Jim McKinnon, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette A Monroeville bicyclist has been jailed on charges that he tried to kill a pickup truck driver during a road rage incident Saturday afternoon near the entrance to Monroeville Park. The driver, William J. Nicoletti, was shot once in the arm in the confrontation. No injuries were reported to the bike rider, Robert T. Urick. Nicoletti, 51, told Monroeville police that he was driving along Tillbrook Road when Urick, 41, who was riding the bicycle, made an obscene gesture as the truck passed him. Urick later told police that he reacted that way because Nicoletti had told him to get off the road. Nicoletti said that he turned his truck around and drove toward Urick, who pulled a pistol, pointed it at him and stated that Nicoletti had "five seconds to get out [of the truck] or he would shoot," according to an affidavit that supports Urick's arrest. Nicoletti said that Urick then reached inside the truck and shot him in the arm. As Urick rode away, Nicoletti said that he pursued him in the truck, ramming the bicycle from behind, forcing it off the road. The two men then fought briefly until Urick fled. Nicoletti was treated at Mercy Hospital for a bullet wound of the arm. Under questioning at county police headquarters, Urick denied having possessed or fired a weapon. He admitted that he had fought with Nicoletti, ending the fight only after Nicoletti submitted, the affidavit said. Urick was arraigned on charges of attempted homicide, aggravated assault and two weapons violations. He was being held last night in the Allegheny County Jail on $100,000 bond, pending a preliminary hearing Feb. 17 at 1 p.m. before District Justice Walter Luniewski in Monroeville. http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04040/270970.stm (Jim McKinnon can be reached at or 412-263-1939.) |
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Truck driver is shot in face-off with cyclist Monday, February 09, 2004 By Jim McKinnon, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette A Monroeville bicyclist has been jailed on charges that he tried to kill a pickup truck driver during a road rage incident Saturday afternoon near the entrance to Monroeville Park. The driver, William J. Nicoletti, was shot once in the arm in the confrontation. No injuries were reported to the bike rider, Robert T. Urick. Nicoletti, 51, told Monroeville police that he was driving along Tillbrook Road when Urick, 41, who was riding the bicycle, made an obscene gesture as the truck passed him. Urick later told police that he reacted that way because Nicoletti had told him to get off the road. Nicoletti said that he turned his truck around and drove toward Urick, who pulled a pistol, pointed it at him and stated that Nicoletti had "five seconds to get out [of the truck] or he would shoot," according to an affidavit that supports Urick's arrest. Nicoletti said that Urick then reached inside the truck and shot him in the arm. As Urick rode away, Nicoletti said that he pursued him in the truck, ramming the bicycle from behind, forcing it off the road. The two men then fought briefly until Urick fled. Nicoletti was treated at Mercy Hospital for a bullet wound of the arm. Under questioning at county police headquarters, Urick denied having possessed or fired a weapon. He admitted that he had fought with Nicoletti, ending the fight only after Nicoletti submitted, the affidavit said. Urick was arraigned on charges of attempted homicide, aggravated assault and two weapons violations. He was being held last night in the Allegheny County Jail on $100,000 bond, pending a preliminary hearing Feb. 17 at 1 p.m. before District Justice Walter Luniewski in Monroeville. http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04040/270970.stm (Jim McKinnon can be reached at or 412-263-1939.) |
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"NYRides" wrote in message .net...
Sadly, I think the "other thing" that many people have going on in their lives is an underlying frustration with bicyclists who constantly ignore the rules of the road and are frequently a menace to drivers as they weave in and out of traffic, ride on the wrong side of the road, and blow through traffic lights. Most of my riding is done out here on the roads of Long Island, where nobody bothers to teach or learn the proper and safe way to ride a bicycle beyond the end of the driveway. As a result, I am constantly on edge while driving around town, waiting for yet another kid on a Mongoose to come flying off the corner on the left side of the road - or worse, an experienced adult rider with an expensive bike flying through a red light so as not to fall short of yesterday's time. It seems that most urban riders are much more aware of safe and legal riding techniques, but I've certainly seen a lot of oblivious peddlers in New York City. This ****es ME off -- and I'm a cyclist. I can't imagine how it irks a driver who only wishes he/she had a bicycle! Don't let it get you so upset. Many parents don't have their priorities straight and don't teach resposibility. They aren't themselves responsible and either is their progeny. Unfortunately we live in a fallen world. One neighborhood boy thought it was cute to ride his bike in the other lane towards an oncoming car like you see in movies with two cars racing towards each other. That's the big reason that we have bicycle helmets now. Be thankful for each ride where you come home. |
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"NYRides" wrote in message .net...
Sadly, I think the "other thing" that many people have going on in their lives is an underlying frustration with bicyclists who constantly ignore the rules of the road and are frequently a menace to drivers as they weave in and out of traffic, ride on the wrong side of the road, and blow through traffic lights. Most of my riding is done out here on the roads of Long Island, where nobody bothers to teach or learn the proper and safe way to ride a bicycle beyond the end of the driveway. As a result, I am constantly on edge while driving around town, waiting for yet another kid on a Mongoose to come flying off the corner on the left side of the road - or worse, an experienced adult rider with an expensive bike flying through a red light so as not to fall short of yesterday's time. It seems that most urban riders are much more aware of safe and legal riding techniques, but I've certainly seen a lot of oblivious peddlers in New York City. This ****es ME off -- and I'm a cyclist. I can't imagine how it irks a driver who only wishes he/she had a bicycle! Don't let it get you so upset. Many parents don't have their priorities straight and don't teach resposibility. They aren't themselves responsible and either is their progeny. Unfortunately we live in a fallen world. One neighborhood boy thought it was cute to ride his bike in the other lane towards an oncoming car like you see in movies with two cars racing towards each other. That's the big reason that we have bicycle helmets now. Be thankful for each ride where you come home. |
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Carmon wrote:
|| Truck driver is shot in face-off with cyclist || || Monday, February 09, 2004 || By Jim McKinnon, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette So the question here is: Who had road rage - the truck driver or the cyclist? || || A Monroeville bicyclist has been jailed on charges that he tried to || kill a pickup truck driver during a road rage incident Saturday || afternoon near the entrance to Monroeville Park. || || The driver, William J. Nicoletti, was shot once in the arm in the || confrontation. || No injuries were reported to the bike rider, Robert T. Urick. || || Nicoletti, 51, told Monroeville police that he was driving along || Tillbrook Road when Urick, 41, who was riding the bicycle, made an || obscene gesture as the truck passed him. || || Urick later told police that he reacted that way because Nicoletti || had told him to get off the road. || Nicoletti said that he turned his truck around and drove toward || Urick, who pulled a pistol, pointed it at him and stated that || Nicoletti had "five seconds to get out [of the truck] or he would || shoot," according to an affidavit that supports Urick's arrest. || || Nicoletti said that Urick then reached inside the truck and shot him || in the arm. || || As Urick rode away, Nicoletti said that he pursued him in the truck, || ramming the bicycle from behind, forcing it off the road. || || The two men then fought briefly until Urick fled. || Nicoletti was treated at Mercy Hospital for a bullet wound of the || arm. || || Under questioning at county police headquarters, Urick denied having || possessed or fired a weapon. He admitted that he had fought with || Nicoletti, ending the fight only after Nicoletti submitted, the || affidavit said. || || Urick was arraigned on charges of attempted homicide, aggravated || assault and two weapons violations. || He was being held last night in the Allegheny County Jail on || $100,000 bond, pending a preliminary hearing Feb. 17 at 1 p.m. || before District Justice Walter Luniewski in Monroeville. || || http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04040/270970.stm || || (Jim McKinnon can be reached at or || 412-263-1939.) |
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Carmon wrote:
|| Truck driver is shot in face-off with cyclist || || Monday, February 09, 2004 || By Jim McKinnon, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette So the question here is: Who had road rage - the truck driver or the cyclist? || || A Monroeville bicyclist has been jailed on charges that he tried to || kill a pickup truck driver during a road rage incident Saturday || afternoon near the entrance to Monroeville Park. || || The driver, William J. Nicoletti, was shot once in the arm in the || confrontation. || No injuries were reported to the bike rider, Robert T. Urick. || || Nicoletti, 51, told Monroeville police that he was driving along || Tillbrook Road when Urick, 41, who was riding the bicycle, made an || obscene gesture as the truck passed him. || || Urick later told police that he reacted that way because Nicoletti || had told him to get off the road. || Nicoletti said that he turned his truck around and drove toward || Urick, who pulled a pistol, pointed it at him and stated that || Nicoletti had "five seconds to get out [of the truck] or he would || shoot," according to an affidavit that supports Urick's arrest. || || Nicoletti said that Urick then reached inside the truck and shot him || in the arm. || || As Urick rode away, Nicoletti said that he pursued him in the truck, || ramming the bicycle from behind, forcing it off the road. || || The two men then fought briefly until Urick fled. || Nicoletti was treated at Mercy Hospital for a bullet wound of the || arm. || || Under questioning at county police headquarters, Urick denied having || possessed or fired a weapon. He admitted that he had fought with || Nicoletti, ending the fight only after Nicoletti submitted, the || affidavit said. || || Urick was arraigned on charges of attempted homicide, aggravated || assault and two weapons violations. || He was being held last night in the Allegheny County Jail on || $100,000 bond, pending a preliminary hearing Feb. 17 at 1 p.m. || before District Justice Walter Luniewski in Monroeville. || || http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04040/270970.stm || || (Jim McKinnon can be reached at or || 412-263-1939.) |
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Wed, 1 Sep 2004 19:19:28 -0400, ,
"Roger Zoul" wrote: So the question here is: Who had road rage - the truck driver or the cyclist? "Nicoletti said that he turned his truck around and drove toward Urick" IOW, the cyclist didn't chase down the truck to shoot the driver and I've never been satified that it was even the cyclist's gun. -- zk |
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Wed, 1 Sep 2004 19:19:28 -0400, ,
"Roger Zoul" wrote: So the question here is: Who had road rage - the truck driver or the cyclist? "Nicoletti said that he turned his truck around and drove toward Urick" IOW, the cyclist didn't chase down the truck to shoot the driver and I've never been satified that it was even the cyclist's gun. -- zk |
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On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 19:19:28 -0400, "Roger Zoul"
wrote: Carmon wrote: || Truck driver is shot in face-off with cyclist || || Monday, February 09, 2004 || By Jim McKinnon, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette So the question here is: Who had road rage - the truck driver or the cyclist? Yeah this sounds like a case of man bites dog. A paraffin test will tell who fired the gun, though. -B |
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