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Handlebar/helmet mount camera recommendations?
I'd like to buy a video camera to mount on Handlebars and/or helmet.
Must run for 1hour + and record on to SD card ideally, be small, light. Wide angle wood be ideal. I am aware of the ATC range - any recommendations from this range or any others? Thanks. Jc. |
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Handlebar/helmet mount camera recommendations?
On 13 Mar, 18:09, "Josey" wrote:
I'd like to buy a video camera to mount on Handlebars and/or helmet. Must run for 1hour + and record on to SD card ideally, be small, light. Wide angle wood be ideal. I am aware of the ATC range - any recommendations from this range or any others? Thanks. With both mounts there is jerkiness. It is amazing how much handlebars and heads move about. Better to mount it on the frame somehow but even then there is still a lot of movement. Having tried both I prefer handheld for smoother and more versatile results, though it does make cycling a tad more difficult and was once told off by a cop for doing it. -- Critical Mass London http://www.criticalmasslondon.org.uk "More bikes, fewer cars!". |
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Handlebar/helmet mount camera recommendations?
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With both mounts there is jerkiness. It is amazing how much handlebars and heads move about. Better to mount it on the frame somehow but even then there is still a lot of movement. Having tried both I prefer handheld for smoother and more versatile results, though it does make cycling a tad more difficult and was once told off by a cop for doing it. OK but I don't have a camera yet, so are any models better than others? When I view bike camera pictures on youtube there is often a kind of "warping" effect, is that caused by vibrations? I definitely won't be able to hand hold it. Jc |
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Handlebar/helmet mount camera recommendations?
Josey wrote:
I'd like to buy a video camera to mount on Handlebars and/or helmet. Must run for 1hour + and record on to SD card ideally, be small, light. Wide angle wood be ideal. I am aware of the ATC range - any recommendations from this range or any others? I have an Oregan Scientific 2K Helmet Camera. I gave up with helmet mounting for few reasons: 1) I don't generally wear a helmet and strapping to to my head a was a pain. 2) Since the controls are on the top you have to start it running and then put it on your head which meant you lost some of the recording to putting it on. Not a big issue but it also means you can't stop recording without taking it off. 3) Getting it pointing in the right direction was harder than I thought it would be. Fine if you do this occasionally not so great if you want to record your journey to work. 4) My head bobs around a lot when cycling. Instead I opted for handlebar mount, which gets a different view but I found less wobbly. However it is more prone to vibration when going fast or on poor roads. However on super smooth roads in France the quality is not bad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1bKEA3wM9w all the pixalation you see in that is down to youtube transcoding the raw video. Makes me want to ride up that mountain again! --chris |
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Handlebar/helmet mount camera recommendations?
On 14 Mar, 11:59, Chris Gerhard wrote:
Josey wrote: I'd like to buy a video camera to mount on Handlebars and/or helmet. Must run for 1hour + and record on to SD card ideally, be small, light. Wide angle wood be ideal. I am aware of the ATC range - any recommendations from this range or any others? I have an Oregan Scientific 2K Helmet Camera. I gave up with helmet mounting for few reasons: 1) I don't generally wear a helmet and strapping to to my head a was a pain. 2) Since the controls are on the top you have to start it running and then put it on your head which meant you lost some of the recording to putting it on. Not a big issue but it also means you can't stop recording without taking it off. 3) Getting it pointing in the right direction was harder than I thought it would be. Fine if you do this occasionally not so great if you want to record your journey to work. 4) My head bobs around a lot when cycling. Its amazing how much the head does bob around and you are not normally aware of it. Also, there are sidelong glances without moving the head which leaves the camera pointing in the wrong direction. Maybe though with enough practice these could be corrected. Instead I opted for handlebar mount, which gets a different view but I found less wobbly. However it is more prone to vibration when going fast or on poor roads. The problem is, balance is maintained by movement of the handlebars especially at slow speeds. If I had a choice at bike mounting I would use a unipod clamped to the frame in front of me near the handlebars to give an elevated view with less wobble, though there would still be a problem with road bumps. With a hand held camera you can point it in any direction, including backwards, hold it high, and your body weight tends to smooth out the bumps. -- Critical Mass London http://www.criticalmasslondon.org.uk "More bikes, fewer cars!". |
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Handlebar/helmet mount camera recommendations?
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Doug wrote: The problem is, balance is maintained by movement of the handlebars especially at slow speeds. When I ran a camera mounted on my handlebars this was irrelevant as a source of camera shake. Mounting the camera on the handlebars rather than the frame has the massive advantage that it points where you're going. I did have problems with mostly vertical shake due to road unevenness. Surprisingly the road bumps were being amplified rather than smoothed out by the flex in the mount, so making the mount more rigid made a huge improvement. The rear camera which was much more solidly fixed had a much better picture. You can see my videos at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~ijackson/bikecams/ I'm thinking of putting the cameras back on. If I do I'll have to remember to resign myself to not making complaints to the police, as battling the police as well as the drivers was doing very bad things to my general my state of mind. -- Ian Jackson personal email: These opinions are my own. http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~ijackson/ PGP2 key 1024R/0x23f5addb, fingerprint 5906F687 BD03ACAD 0D8E602E FCF37657 |
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On 17 Mar, 01:47, Phil W Lee phil(at)lee-family(dot)me(dot)uk wrote:
Nick L Plate considered Mon, 16 Mar 2009 11:29:13 -0700 (PDT) the perfect time to write: On 14 Mar, 08:42, "Josey" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message With both mounts there is jerkiness. It is amazing how much handlebars and heads move about. Better to mount it on the frame somehow but even then there is still a lot of movement. Having tried both I prefer handheld for smoother and more versatile results, though it does make cycling a tad more difficult and was once told off by a cop for doing it. OK but I don't have a camera yet, so are any models better than others? When I view bike camera pictures on youtube there is often a kind of "warping" effect, is that caused by vibrations? I definitely won't be able to hand hold it. Jc View ing of some motorbike camera work, the best position seems to be on the shoulder, the camera tracks with the body rather than sweeping with the head. TJ That's a good idea for riders who keep to a stable posture. Most users of drops or butterflies keep changing the amount of forward lean, so I doubt it would work for them. Someone must have come up with a vibration damped mounting, surely? If not, there must be a lot of sales waiting for whoever does (at reasonable cost). The OP is requesting a wide anle camera which would minimise the effect of the verticular angular change. Most cyclists are using flat bars , so there is no significant body position change. When using drop bars, unless climbing a long hill, most of the time is spent on the brake hoods. Within traffic, it is unusual to ever use the hooks of a drop bar. Only if the proposed user spends significant periods of time in the drops when camera work is required should the effect of vertical displacement be considered. TJ |
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Handlebar/helmet mount camera recommendations?
I'd like to buy a video camera to mount on Handlebars and/or helmet.
Must run for 1hour + and record on to SD card ideally, be small, light. Wide angle wood be ideal. I am aware of the ATC range - any recommendations from this range or any others? Thanks. Jc. I looked at this recently - info on ATC3K http://www.phase7.org/DodgeyDrivers/ATC3K/ATC3K.html. Hope this helps. |
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Handlebar/helmet mount camera recommendations?
Someone must have come up with a vibration damped mounting, surely? If not, there must be a lot of sales waiting for whoever does (at reasonable cost). i have a dim memory of reading on the web a design for mounting a rather large camera a few years ago which looked clever, but I cannot remember where. Hope that helps TerryJ |
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Handlebar/helmet mount camera recommendations?
On Mar 18, 7:48*am, terryj wrote:
Someone must have come up with a vibration damped mounting, surely? If not, there must be a lot of sales waiting for whoever does (at reasonable cost). i have a dim memory of reading on the web a design for mounting a rather large camera a few years ago which looked clever, but I cannot remember where. Hope that helps TerryJ There's a good write up on this site... http://www.petefagerlin.com/helmetcam_video_how_to.htm And there's a good example here of just strapping an old point'n'shoot digital camera to a helmet... http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=500844 |
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