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New rbr Science Officer
Paul G. wrote:
On May 1, 12:56 pm, Fred Fredburger wrote: dave a wrote: www.thedailyshow.com Unfortunately, I don't know how to link directly to this, but please watch the Large Hadron Collider piece beginning around 3:15 into it. There is a 50/50 chance you will understand it. - dave a Watching the media clips mentioning Wagner's theory tells you all you need to know about the news media. These doomsday theories have a rich history: "Teller also raised the speculative possibility that an atomic bomb might "ignite" the atmosphere, because of a hypothetical fusion reaction of nitrogen nuclei. Bethe calculated, according to Serber, that it could not happen. However, a report co-authored by Teller showed that ignition of the atmosphere was not impossible, just unlikely." So they held their breath as the Trinity bomb went off... -Paul Yeah, but that was Teller. He's a smart guy. Presumably, Penn is too. They're not just some dumb-assed High School science teacher. |
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On May 1, 4:00*pm, Fred Fredburger
wrote: Paul G. wrote: On May 1, 12:56 pm, Fred Fredburger wrote: dave a wrote: www.thedailyshow.com Unfortunately, I don't know how to link directly to this, but please watch the Large Hadron Collider piece beginning around 3:15 into it. There is a 50/50 chance you will understand it. - dave a Watching the media clips mentioning Wagner's theory tells you all you need to know about the news media. These doomsday theories have a rich history: "Teller also raised the speculative possibility that an atomic bomb might "ignite" the atmosphere, because of a hypothetical fusion reaction of nitrogen nuclei. Bethe calculated, according to Serber, that it could not happen. However, a report co-authored by Teller showed that ignition of the atmosphere was not impossible, just unlikely." So they held their breath as the Trinity bomb went off... -Paul Yeah, but that was Teller. He's a smart guy. Presumably, Penn is too. They're not just some dumb-assed High School science teacher. Yeah, my father was a physicist and nuclear engineer. I lived in Las Vegas as a kid... near the atomic test site. He told me that story, the Hadron theory reminded me of it, so I looked it up. The Hadron black hole theory can be put to rest by the fact that cosmic rays of much higher energies than the Hadron can generate bombard the atmosphere all the time, and don't create black holes. -Paul |
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New rbr Science Officer
Howard Kveck wrote:
In article , wrote: On May 1, 2:21 pm, Donald Munro wrote: Bret wrote: It looks like the Daily Show writers come to rbr for ideas when they have writer's block. That's like going to a convent to cure impotence. oh, I don't know. I think I had a thing for Sally Field when I was like 12. Agent 99. Oh, yeah. http://www.wouldyoubelieve.com/99.html http://www.stacymunn.com/blog/img/shoephone.jpg Agent 99 was Barbara Feldman. |
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New rbr Science Officer
Fred Fredburger wrote:
Paul G. wrote: On May 1, 12:56 pm, Fred Fredburger wrote: dave a wrote: www.thedailyshow.com Unfortunately, I don't know how to link directly to this, but please watch the Large Hadron Collider piece beginning around 3:15 into it. There is a 50/50 chance you will understand it. - dave a Watching the media clips mentioning Wagner's theory tells you all you need to know about the news media. These doomsday theories have a rich history: "Teller also raised the speculative possibility that an atomic bomb might "ignite" the atmosphere, because of a hypothetical fusion reaction of nitrogen nuclei. Bethe calculated, according to Serber, that it could not happen. However, a report co-authored by Teller showed that ignition of the atmosphere was not impossible, just unlikely." So they held their breath as the Trinity bomb went off... -Paul Yeah, but that was Teller. He's a smart guy. Presumably, Penn is too. They're not just some dumb-assed High School science teacher. this is why I read rbr... |
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Paul G. wrote:
On May 1, 4:00 pm, Fred Fredburger wrote: Paul G. wrote: On May 1, 12:56 pm, Fred Fredburger wrote: dave a wrote: www.thedailyshow.com Unfortunately, I don't know how to link directly to this, but please watch the Large Hadron Collider piece beginning around 3:15 into it. There is a 50/50 chance you will understand it. - dave a Watching the media clips mentioning Wagner's theory tells you all you need to know about the news media. These doomsday theories have a rich history: "Teller also raised the speculative possibility that an atomic bomb might "ignite" the atmosphere, because of a hypothetical fusion reaction of nitrogen nuclei. Bethe calculated, according to Serber, that it could not happen. However, a report co-authored by Teller showed that ignition of the atmosphere was not impossible, just unlikely." So they held their breath as the Trinity bomb went off... -Paul Yeah, but that was Teller. He's a smart guy. Presumably, Penn is too. They're not just some dumb-assed High School science teacher. Yeah, my father was a physicist and nuclear engineer. I lived in Las Vegas as a kid... near the atomic test site. He told me that story, the Hadron theory reminded me of it, so I looked it up. The Hadron black hole theory can be put to rest by the fact that cosmic rays of much higher energies than the Hadron can generate bombard the atmosphere all the time, and don't create black holes. -Paul Interesting concept. If I understand you correctly, you're suggesting that idiocy can be "put to rest" by simple facts. As Rocky once said to Bullwinkle, "That trick NEVER works!" |
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On May 1, 7:41*pm, Fred Fredburger
wrote: Paul G. wrote: On May 1, 4:00 pm, Fred Fredburger wrote: Paul G. wrote: On May 1, 12:56 pm, Fred Fredburger wrote: dave a wrote: www.thedailyshow.com Unfortunately, I don't know how to link directly to this, but please watch the Large Hadron Collider piece beginning around 3:15 into it.. There is a 50/50 chance you will understand it. - dave a Watching the media clips mentioning Wagner's theory tells you all you need to know about the news media. These doomsday theories have a rich history: "Teller also raised the speculative possibility that an atomic bomb might "ignite" the atmosphere, because of a hypothetical fusion reaction of nitrogen nuclei. Bethe calculated, according to Serber, that it could not happen. However, a report co-authored by Teller showed that ignition of the atmosphere was not impossible, just unlikely." So they held their breath as the Trinity bomb went off... -Paul Yeah, but that was Teller. He's a smart guy. Presumably, Penn is too. They're not just some dumb-assed High School science teacher. Yeah, my father was a physicist and nuclear engineer. I lived in Las Vegas as a kid... near the atomic test site. He told me that story, the Hadron theory reminded me of it, so I looked it up. *The Hadron black hole theory can be put to rest by the fact that cosmic rays of much higher energies than the Hadron can generate bombard the atmosphere all the time, and don't create black holes. -Paul Interesting concept. If I understand you correctly, you're suggesting that idiocy can be "put to rest" by simple facts. As Rocky once said to Bullwinkle, "That trick NEVER works!" Heh heh... no, I read about the supposed risk a while back and the explanation that cosmic rays had greater energy satisfied me. I figured that would point anyone who was interested in the right direction. The Hadron is searching for the "God particle", high energy cosmic rays are called "Oh My GOD particles". But I missed the Penn and Teller allusion on the first pass. That was funny, like Marxist-Lennonists: http://stamp-search.com/images/abk8088ss-marx-john.jpg -Paul |
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Howard Kveck wrote:
In article , Carl Sundquist wrote: Howard Kveck wrote: In article , wrote: On May 1, 2:21 pm, Donald Munro wrote: Bret wrote: It looks like the Daily Show writers come to rbr for ideas when they have writer's block. That's like going to a convent to cure impotence. oh, I don't know. I think I had a thing for Sally Field when I was like 12. Agent 99. Oh, yeah. http://www.wouldyoubelieve.com/99.html http://www.stacymunn.com/blog/img/shoephone.jpg Agent 99 was Barbara Feldman. Yes, but I was pointing out who I thought was the hottie from that time. Ah. Apologies. For me it was Catwoman / Julie Newmar. |
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, "Paul G." wrote: On May 1, 4:00*pm, Fred Fredburger wrote: Paul G. wrote: On May 1, 12:56 pm, Fred Fredburger wrote: dave a wrote: www.thedailyshow.com Unfortunately, I don't know how to link directly to this, but please watch the Large Hadron Collider piece beginning around 3:15 into it. There is a 50/50 chance you will understand it. - dave a Watching the media clips mentioning Wagner's theory tells you all you need to know about the news media. These doomsday theories have a rich history: "Teller also raised the speculative possibility that an atomic bomb might "ignite" the atmosphere, because of a hypothetical fusion reaction of nitrogen nuclei. Bethe calculated, according to Serber, that it could not happen. However, a report co-authored by Teller showed that ignition of the atmosphere was not impossible, just unlikely." So they held their breath as the Trinity bomb went off... -Paul Yeah, but that was Teller. He's a smart guy. Presumably, Penn is too. They're not just some dumb-assed High School science teacher. Yeah, my father was a physicist and nuclear engineer. I lived in Las Vegas as a kid... near the atomic test site. He told me that story, the Hadron theory reminded me of it, so I looked it up. The Hadron black hole theory can be put to rest by the fact that cosmic rays of much higher energies than the Hadron can generate bombard the atmosphere all the time, and don't create black holes. They _may_, but black holes decay, and the smaller, the faster. -- Michael Press |
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New rbr Science Officer
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, "Paul G." wrote: On May 1, 7:41*pm, Fred Fredburger wrote: Paul G. wrote: On May 1, 4:00 pm, Fred Fredburger wrote: Paul G. wrote: On May 1, 12:56 pm, Fred Fredburger wrote: dave a wrote: www.thedailyshow.com Unfortunately, I don't know how to link directly to this, but please watch the Large Hadron Collider piece beginning around 3:15 into it. There is a 50/50 chance you will understand it. - dave a Watching the media clips mentioning Wagner's theory tells you all you need to know about the news media. These doomsday theories have a rich history: "Teller also raised the speculative possibility that an atomic bomb might "ignite" the atmosphere, because of a hypothetical fusion reaction of nitrogen nuclei. Bethe calculated, according to Serber, that it could not happen. However, a report co-authored by Teller showed that ignition of the atmosphere was not impossible, just unlikely." So they held their breath as the Trinity bomb went off... -Paul Yeah, but that was Teller. He's a smart guy. Presumably, Penn is too. They're not just some dumb-assed High School science teacher. Yeah, my father was a physicist and nuclear engineer. I lived in Las Vegas as a kid... near the atomic test site. He told me that story, the Hadron theory reminded me of it, so I looked it up. *The Hadron black hole theory can be put to rest by the fact that cosmic rays of much higher energies than the Hadron can generate bombard the atmosphere all the time, and don't create black holes. -Paul Interesting concept. If I understand you correctly, you're suggesting that idiocy can be "put to rest" by simple facts. As Rocky once said to Bullwinkle, "That trick NEVER works!" Heh heh... no, I read about the supposed risk a while back and the explanation that cosmic rays had greater energy satisfied me. I figured that would point anyone who was interested in the right direction. The Hadron is searching for the "God particle", high energy cosmic rays are called "Oh My GOD particles". But I missed the Penn and Teller allusion on the first pass. That was funny, like Marxist-Lennonists: http://stamp-search.com/images/abk8088ss-marx-john.jpg http://www.geocities.com/flatbush_skp/marxlennon.html -- Michael Press |
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On May 2, 12:56*am, Michael Press wrote:
In article , *"Paul G." wrote: On May 1, 4:00*pm, Fred Fredburger wrote: Paul G. wrote: On May 1, 12:56 pm, Fred Fredburger wrote: dave a wrote: www.thedailyshow.com Unfortunately, I don't know how to link directly to this, but please watch the Large Hadron Collider piece beginning around 3:15 into it. There is a 50/50 chance you will understand it. - dave a Watching the media clips mentioning Wagner's theory tells you all you need to know about the news media. These doomsday theories have a rich history: "Teller also raised the speculative possibility that an atomic bomb might "ignite" the atmosphere, because of a hypothetical fusion reaction of nitrogen nuclei. Bethe calculated, according to Serber, that it could not happen. However, a report co-authored by Teller showed that ignition of the atmosphere was not impossible, just unlikely." So they held their breath as the Trinity bomb went off... -Paul Yeah, but that was Teller. He's a smart guy. Presumably, Penn is too. They're not just some dumb-assed High School science teacher. Yeah, my father was a physicist and nuclear engineer. I lived in Las Vegas as a kid... near the atomic test site. He told me that story, the Hadron theory reminded me of it, so I looked it up. *The Hadron black hole theory can be put to rest by the fact that cosmic rays of much higher energies than the Hadron can generate bombard the atmosphere all the time, and don't create black holes. They _may_, but black holes decay, and the smaller, the faster. What does "They may" refer to? Ultra-high energy cosmic rays entering the atmosphere may create black holes? This has never been observed. Black holes have never been observed to decay, either. Although the theoretical grounds for black hole decay are well-motivated, this is a regime where theory is not at all tested by observations, and many non-theorists regard it as "interesting if true." Paul's summary was basically correct. Cosmic rays of higher energy than hadronic particles accelerated by the LHC enter the atmosphere all the time, and the universe hasn't been destroyed, nor have any growing-without-limit black holes been created, nor have any microscopic decaying black holes been observed. The amount of time and people's energy spent on this would have been better spent on the catastrophic consequences of collateralized mortgage obligations, which it turns out _do_ have the potential to destroy the world as we know it. Ben |
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