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  #11  
Old May 29th 09, 12:54 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Michael Press
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In article ,
Carl Sundquist wrote:

I wish the riders had them on their bikes so a stage map or climb
profile could be superimposed over the action. Time gaps can be
significantly different than distance gaps. It could be that Pellizotti
was within view (especially any vehicles following him) most of the time
up the climb yesterday, particularly after they rode above the tree
line. But from the view of the cameras, the groups appeared to be
completely isolated.

25 kph is 6.9 meters per second. At 42 seconds (not sure if that is raw
time or with time bonus added) behind at the top, that is only about a
290 meter gap.


290 m is a moderately long rifle shot, and a small target.

--
Michael Press
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Old May 29th 09, 11:56 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Michael Press wrote:
In article ,
Carl Sundquist wrote:

I wish the riders had them on their bikes so a stage map or climb
profile could be superimposed over the action. Time gaps can be
significantly different than distance gaps. It could be that Pellizotti
was within view (especially any vehicles following him) most of the time
up the climb yesterday, particularly after they rode above the tree
line. But from the view of the cameras, the groups appeared to be
completely isolated.

25 kph is 6.9 meters per second. At 42 seconds (not sure if that is raw
time or with time bonus added) behind at the top, that is only about a
290 meter gap.


290 m is a moderately long rifle shot, and a small target.


290m is less than a single lap at most US bicycle tracks.
  #13  
Old May 29th 09, 01:38 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Fri, 29 May 2009 05:56:23 -0500, Carl Sundquist
wrote:

Michael Press wrote:
In article ,
Carl Sundquist wrote:

I wish the riders had them on their bikes so a stage map or climb
profile could be superimposed over the action. Time gaps can be
significantly different than distance gaps. It could be that Pellizotti
was within view (especially any vehicles following him) most of the time
up the climb yesterday, particularly after they rode above the tree
line. But from the view of the cameras, the groups appeared to be
completely isolated.

25 kph is 6.9 meters per second. At 42 seconds (not sure if that is raw
time or with time bonus added) behind at the top, that is only about a
290 meter gap.


290 m is a moderately long rifle shot, and a small target.


290m is less than a single lap at most US bicycle tracks.


OK, well its a short rifle shot if you are shooting across the
infield. Try to miss the officials when you do so - unless its turkey
season...

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...
  #14  
Old May 29th 09, 10:37 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Carl Sundquist
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"Michael Press" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Carl Sundquist wrote:

I wish the riders had them on their bikes so a stage map or climb
profile could be superimposed over the action. Time gaps can be
significantly different than distance gaps. It could be that Pellizotti
was within view (especially any vehicles following him) most of the time
up the climb yesterday, particularly after they rode above the tree
line. But from the view of the cameras, the groups appeared to be
completely isolated.

25 kph is 6.9 meters per second. At 42 seconds (not sure if that is raw
time or with time bonus added) behind at the top, that is only about a
290 meter gap.


290 m is a moderately long rifle shot, and a small target.

--
Michael Press



WTF?

You gripe about Bos referencing a keirin in a comment he made about a race,
but you reference a rifle shot in regard to time/distance gaps of a bike
race?



  #15  
Old May 30th 09, 12:04 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Michael Press
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In article ,
Carl Sundquist wrote:

Michael Press wrote:
In article ,
Carl Sundquist wrote:

I wish the riders had them on their bikes so a stage map or climb
profile could be superimposed over the action. Time gaps can be
significantly different than distance gaps. It could be that Pellizotti
was within view (especially any vehicles following him) most of the time
up the climb yesterday, particularly after they rode above the tree
line. But from the view of the cameras, the groups appeared to be
completely isolated.

25 kph is 6.9 meters per second. At 42 seconds (not sure if that is raw
time or with time bonus added) behind at the top, that is only about a
290 meter gap.


290 m is a moderately long rifle shot, and a small target.


290m is less than a single lap at most US bicycle tracks.


I was addressing the apparent size of a rider at 290 m.
Don't make me quote the trigonometry.

--
Michael Press
  #16  
Old May 30th 09, 12:05 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Michael Press
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In article ,
"Carl Sundquist" wrote:

"Michael Press" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Carl Sundquist wrote:

I wish the riders had them on their bikes so a stage map or climb
profile could be superimposed over the action. Time gaps can be
significantly different than distance gaps. It could be that Pellizotti
was within view (especially any vehicles following him) most of the time
up the climb yesterday, particularly after they rode above the tree
line. But from the view of the cameras, the groups appeared to be
completely isolated.

25 kph is 6.9 meters per second. At 42 seconds (not sure if that is raw
time or with time bonus added) behind at the top, that is only about a
290 meter gap.


290 m is a moderately long rifle shot, and a small target.


WTF?

You gripe about Bos referencing a keirin in a comment he made about a race,
but you reference a rifle shot in regard to time/distance gaps of a bike
race?


1. Reality.
2. Fantasy.

--
Michael Press
  #17  
Old May 30th 09, 12:17 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On May 29, 2:37*pm, "Carl Sundquist" wrote:
"Michael Press" wrote in message
In article ,
Carl Sundquist wrote:


I wish the riders had them on their bikes so a stage map or climb
profile could be superimposed over the action. Time gaps can be
significantly different than distance gaps. It could be that Pellizotti
was within view (especially any vehicles following him) most of the time
up the climb yesterday, particularly after they rode above the tree
line. But from the view of the cameras, the groups appeared to be
completely isolated.


25 kph is 6.9 meters per second. At 42 seconds (not sure if that is raw
time or with time bonus added) behind at the top, that is only about a
290 meter gap.


290 m is a moderately long rifle shot, and a small target.


--
Michael Press


WTF?

You gripe about Bos referencing a keirin in a comment he made about a race,
but you reference a rifle shot in regard to time/distance gaps of a bike
race?


Press is talking about the cycling biathlon, which is
slated to be introduced to the Summer Olympics on
a trial basis. I expect good results from the Afghan
and Chinese teams.

http://artchina.free.fr/items/little...losfulsils.jpg

Ben
  #18  
Old May 30th 09, 12:35 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Carl Sundquist[_3_]
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Michael Press wrote:
In article ,
Carl Sundquist wrote:

Michael Press wrote:
In article ,
Carl Sundquist wrote:

I wish the riders had them on their bikes so a stage map or climb
profile could be superimposed over the action. Time gaps can be
significantly different than distance gaps. It could be that Pellizotti
was within view (especially any vehicles following him) most of the time
up the climb yesterday, particularly after they rode above the tree
line. But from the view of the cameras, the groups appeared to be
completely isolated.

25 kph is 6.9 meters per second. At 42 seconds (not sure if that is raw
time or with time bonus added) behind at the top, that is only about a
290 meter gap.
290 m is a moderately long rifle shot, and a small target.

290m is less than a single lap at most US bicycle tracks.


I was addressing the apparent size of a rider at 290 m.
Don't make me quote the trigonometry.


What does that have to do with television viewers?
  #19  
Old May 30th 09, 06:52 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Michael Press
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In article ,
Carl Sundquist wrote:

Michael Press wrote:
In article ,
Carl Sundquist wrote:

Michael Press wrote:
In article ,
Carl Sundquist wrote:

I wish the riders had them on their bikes so a stage map or climb
profile could be superimposed over the action. Time gaps can be
significantly different than distance gaps. It could be that Pellizotti
was within view (especially any vehicles following him) most of the time
up the climb yesterday, particularly after they rode above the tree
line. But from the view of the cameras, the groups appeared to be
completely isolated.

25 kph is 6.9 meters per second. At 42 seconds (not sure if that is raw
time or with time bonus added) behind at the top, that is only about a
290 meter gap.
290 m is a moderately long rifle shot, and a small target.

290m is less than a single lap at most US bicycle tracks.


I was addressing the apparent size of a rider at 290 m.
Don't make me quote the trigonometry.


What does that have to do with television viewers?


Nothing? It has to do with what a chaser may or may not see.

--
Michael Press
  #20  
Old May 30th 09, 07:37 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Carl Sundquist[_3_]
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Michael Press wrote:
In article ,
Carl Sundquist wrote:

Michael Press wrote:
In article ,
Carl Sundquist wrote:

Michael Press wrote:
In article ,
Carl Sundquist wrote:

I wish the riders had them on their bikes so a stage map or climb
profile could be superimposed over the action. Time gaps can be
significantly different than distance gaps. It could be that Pellizotti
was within view (especially any vehicles following him) most of the time
up the climb yesterday, particularly after they rode above the tree
line. But from the view of the cameras, the groups appeared to be
completely isolated.

25 kph is 6.9 meters per second. At 42 seconds (not sure if that is raw
time or with time bonus added) behind at the top, that is only about a
290 meter gap.
290 m is a moderately long rifle shot, and a small target.

290m is less than a single lap at most US bicycle tracks.
I was addressing the apparent size of a rider at 290 m.
Don't make me quote the trigonometry.

What does that have to do with television viewers?


Nothing? It has to do with what a chaser may or may not see.


Dumbass,

 




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