Imagine that-Contador and Armstrong

"LawBoy01" wrote in message
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The best TdF would be one where we
could see the best TdF rider (not best overall rider) ever vs. the
best one right now. That should never happen between riders on the
same team.

Psst - Bernard Hinault and Greg LeMond.

On Sep 25, 11:43*am, "Off The Back" wrote:
LawBoy01 wrote:
It could be a civil one, but if he reverts to his
MagillaGorilla persona during our meeting he
will be using voice-recongition software to
post rants on RBR for a few months.

Nice. Seems this "Bring 'em on" attitude is common for Texans.

I'll take that as a compliment, OTB.

On Sep 25, 1:18*pm, MagillaGorilla wrote:

This Ken Papai "let's fight" because of a usenet post stuff cracks me
the **** up.

Magilla

Name and address, please. We can meet up for a civil, 50-60 mile bike
ride at an 18-20 mph tempo pace (could be higher or lower; I don't
know the topography in your area) and have coffee afterwards, or we
can duke it out in the ring at the your local YMCA. It's up to you,
Magilla, and entirely dependent upon your demeanor and attitude toward
me when we meet; that is, if you take me up on my offer. I'm being
very serious with you and about this offer. We can meet up as early
as mid-October, and I would much rather go on that bike ride and trip
to the coffee bar than take a single swing at you in a boxing ring. I
more interested in seeing if there's any difference between you and
your online persona.

As for your Ken Papai remark, what's funnier to me is how you hide
behind the web and make inflammatory remarks to and/or about somebody
that you would never say in the face of the person to or about whom
you direct the remarks. I guess you and I see your actions on the
usenet (and RBR in particular) under different lights.

On Sep 25, 3:43*pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:
Psst - Bernard Hinault and Greg LeMond.

Comparing the struggle we might see unfold within Astana between
Armstrong and Contador in the 2009 TdF with what we saw in La Vie
Claire between Hinault and Lemond in the 1986 TdF is not that simple,
my friend. That's because Hinault didn't retire after the 1982 TdF,
and he - not Lemond - actually won the 1985 TdF. And say whatever you
want about whether Lemond could have won the 1985 TdF, but don't think
for a moment that Hinault couldn't have won the 1986 TdF had he not
actually ridden for Lemond as often as did (which is less often than
Hinault says to this very day that he rode for Lemond).

What I'm saying is that, even though a Tour can be lost with one bad
crash or day in the mountains, Contador's youth and achievements over
the past three years gives him a much better chance to win the Tour
than do Armstrong's three years off the bike and recent success in 100
mile mountain bike races against B-level pros like Wiens. So I don't
think you designate Contador or Armstrong as team leader in the TdF
and watch the chief lieutenant try to win the race within the race.
Contador has the same right at this point in his career to demand the
same loyalty and dedication from his teammates in the Tour as Lance
did during his seven straight Tour wins; that is to say that should
the 2009 Tour include a TT up L'Alpe d'Huez and Armstrong finish 3.25
seconds back from Contador (the stage winner), Contador should expect
Armstrong to be teased when he tells Bruyneel at the dinner table that
night that he (Armstrong) did as he was told and "took it easy" during
the stage so he wouldn't be too tired to work for Contador the next
day, ala Floyd Landis after the TT up L'Alpe d'Huez during stage 16 of
the 2004 TdF. But with Armstrong on Astana and Johan driving the team
car, you know better than to expect that sort of banter to be directed
at Armstrong at the dinner table.

"LawBoy01" wrote in message
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And say whatever you
want about whether Lemond could have won the 1985 TdF, but don't think
for a moment that Hinault couldn't have won the 1986 TdF had he not
actually ridden for Lemond as often as did (which is less often than
Hinault says to this very day that he rode for Lemond).

My analysis is that Hinault rode almost not at all for LeMond. Instead he
tried to be Greg to ride for him by threatening with Urs Zimmermann.

Mind you, it isn't at all clear that LeMond could have won the '85 Tour
since making the effort might well have ****ed Hinault off and when he was
****ed he rode 20% better. Greg wasn't 10% better than Bernard that year.

On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:39:53 -0700, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo.
com wrote:

"LawBoy01" wrote in message
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And say whatever you
want about whether Lemond could have won the 1985 TdF, but don't think
for a moment that Hinault couldn't have won the 1986 TdF had he not
actually ridden for Lemond as often as did (which is less often than
Hinault says to this very day that he rode for Lemond).

My analysis is that Hinault rode almost not at all for LeMond. Instead he
tried to be Greg to ride for him by threatening with Urs Zimmermann.

Mind you, it isn't at all clear that LeMond could have won the '85 Tour
since making the effort might well have ****ed Hinault off and when he was
****ed he rode 20% better. Greg wasn't 10% better than Bernard that year.

Besides if Hinault hadn't gone crazy on the Luz Ardiden stage by
attacking again when he had a 5' lead, after the first stage in the
Pyrenees he probably would have won the 86 Tour too !

"Keith" wrote in message
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On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:39:53 -0700, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo.
com wrote:

"LawBoy01" wrote in message
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And say whatever you
want about whether Lemond could have won the 1985 TdF, but don't think
for a moment that Hinault couldn't have won the 1986 TdF had he not
actually ridden for Lemond as often as did (which is less often than
Hinault says to this very day that he rode for Lemond).

My analysis is that Hinault rode almost not at all for LeMond. Instead he
tried to be Greg to ride for him by threatening with Urs Zimmermann.

Mind you, it isn't at all clear that LeMond could have won the '85 Tour
since making the effort might well have ****ed Hinault off and when he was
****ed he rode 20% better. Greg wasn't 10% better than Bernard that year.

Besides if Hinault hadn't gone crazy on the Luz Ardiden stage by
attacking again when he had a 5' lead, after the first stage in the
Pyrenees he probably would have won the 86 Tour too !

Bernard said that he had no intentions of allowing Greg to win without
working for it and that obviously was the way that he was riding. Personally
I think that LeMond's win was worth 100 times as much because he had to earn
it.

SLAVE of THE STATE wrote:
On Sep 24, 1:29 pm, LawBoy01 wrote:
On Sep 23, 8:38 pm, MagillaGorilla wrote:





Tom Kunich wrote:
"LawBoy01" wrote in message
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Magilla- Hide quoted text -
You get more aggressive when somebody schools you the way I did. What
a cute little monkey you are when you're angry!
As he grow older he is beginning to realize what a flop he is. So he
takes it out on someone else.
Keep it up and I'll steal your social security checks out of your
mailbox, you old fossil.
Magilla
Magilla,

The offer I gave you back in 2004 for an ass beating is still open.
All you have to do is give me your name and address.

Take care,

My name isn't anonymous, you little pussy.

The style-guide sez all ass whoopins happen at Starbucks. Purple is
easily identifiable, and thus is recommended.

Dumbass,

My wife and I were in Sausilito last June (it was our 20th anniversary).
I must have said "Let me know if you see a Starbuck's" 20 times before
she asked me what the big deal was. I told her I was going to go in,
find a slave and kick his ass! Eventually we found it. Nobody in
cycling clothing was even there. No purple. I took pictures to prove
that you candyassed out on me.

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LawBoy01 wrote:

On Sep 24, 9:25*pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:

He's a small guy without any strength and his work is sissy stuff. Why do
you think that he posts here in such a manner instead of posting his results
(probably doesn't even ride his CX bike anymore.)

I don't even know who he is, but in listserver lingo he's a troll,
with the added definition of being the very sort of person who would
never speak to somebody in person the way he does anonymously on the
web.

If he is a real racer, I'm sure he's a better one than I am (I don't
even own a CX bike). But if he was a real man, he'd take me up on my
offer for a face-to-face "meeting". It could be a civil one, but if
he reverts to his MagillaGorilla persona during our meeting he will be
using voice-recongition software to post rants on RBR for a few
months.

Philip, please please please stop with this "real man" silliness. It's quite
ridiculous. This is usenet.

--
tanx,
Howard

I'll take the case!

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

In article ,
Bill C wrote:

When there's little to no chance of actually being held accountable,

Accountable? This is usenet.

--
tanx,
Howard

I'll take the case!

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?