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Old November 11th 04, 08:10 PM
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Warren wrote:

"Badger South" wrote in message
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Would be hilarious if they did a reverse sting, though. You know WADA
official caught in bed with "Mango"... ;-)



"But, but, but, there are no drugs here! Only Mango!
Mango want to dance the Dick Pound dance!"

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Old November 11th 04, 08:31 PM
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On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 09:01:59 +1300, Stewart Fleming wrote:
Eddy Mazzoleni is the expert in the peloton on subcutaneous
administration, allegedly. His sister is the one that gets the
testoterone injections.


I think you mean his girlfriend, Basso's sister.


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Old November 11th 04, 08:31 PM
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On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 09:01:59 +1300, Stewart Fleming wrote:
Eddy Mazzoleni is the expert in the peloton on subcutaneous
administration, allegedly. His sister is the one that gets the
testoterone injections.


I think you mean his girlfriend, Basso's sister.


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Old November 11th 04, 08:48 PM
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Ewoud Dronkert wrote:

On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 09:01:59 +1300, Stewart Fleming wrote:

Eddy Mazzoleni is the expert in the peloton on subcutaneous
administration, allegedly. His sister is the one that gets the
testoterone injections.



I think you mean his girlfriend, Basso's sister.


Her too. Doesn't mean that Eddy's sister isn't getting any.
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Old November 11th 04, 08:48 PM
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Ewoud Dronkert wrote:

On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 09:01:59 +1300, Stewart Fleming wrote:

Eddy Mazzoleni is the expert in the peloton on subcutaneous
administration, allegedly. His sister is the one that gets the
testoterone injections.



I think you mean his girlfriend, Basso's sister.


Her too. Doesn't mean that Eddy's sister isn't getting any.
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Old November 12th 04, 03:47 AM
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Robert Chung wrote:
B. Lafferty wrote:
Suddenly, a great year. Now we know why. From CyclingNews:

[snip]

The trial was initiated on the basis of phone tapping and video
surveillance on the riders in question. During May, 2001, Rebellin

was
allegedly filmed receiving a syringe containing a banned substance,
while at the end of the month, he was allegedly videoed injecting
himself with EPO in his hotel room in Bassano del Grappa. Rebellin

has
always maintained his innocence.


Year, UCIRank, UCIPoints
1995, 32, 455
1996, 12, 1219
1997, 16, 928
1998, 8, 1432
1999, 5, 1590
2000, 7, 1612
2001, 3, 1977
2002, 9, 1467
2003, 5, 1656
2004, 6, 1883





Dumbass -

You should know better than to imagine that facts will be useful in
discussions with either T. Kunich or B. Lafferty.


K. Gringioni.

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Old November 12th 04, 03:47 AM
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Robert Chung wrote:
B. Lafferty wrote:
Suddenly, a great year. Now we know why. From CyclingNews:

[snip]

The trial was initiated on the basis of phone tapping and video
surveillance on the riders in question. During May, 2001, Rebellin

was
allegedly filmed receiving a syringe containing a banned substance,
while at the end of the month, he was allegedly videoed injecting
himself with EPO in his hotel room in Bassano del Grappa. Rebellin

has
always maintained his innocence.


Year, UCIRank, UCIPoints
1995, 32, 455
1996, 12, 1219
1997, 16, 928
1998, 8, 1432
1999, 5, 1590
2000, 7, 1612
2001, 3, 1977
2002, 9, 1467
2003, 5, 1656
2004, 6, 1883





Dumbass -

You should know better than to imagine that facts will be useful in
discussions with either T. Kunich or B. Lafferty.


K. Gringioni.

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Old November 12th 04, 05:41 AM
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Badger South Wrote:
Method of administration?

Most EPO preparations are administered by IV, but there is a
subcutaneous
type.

Mostly dopers will give it subcut. Renal failure patients on
haemodialysis give it IV as they already have IV access during their
dialysis. Ditto for chemotherapy patients who are likely to have a long
term IV access device.


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Old November 12th 04, 05:41 AM
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Badger South Wrote:
Method of administration?

Most EPO preparations are administered by IV, but there is a
subcutaneous
type.

Mostly dopers will give it subcut. Renal failure patients on
haemodialysis give it IV as they already have IV access during their
dialysis. Ditto for chemotherapy patients who are likely to have a long
term IV access device.


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Old November 12th 04, 12:32 PM
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On 11 Nov 2004 19:47:18 -0800, Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
Robert Chung wrote:
Year, UCIRank, UCIPoints
1995, 32, 455
1996, 12, 1219
1997, 16, 928
1998, 8, 1432
1999, 5, 1590
2000, 7, 1612
2001, 3, 1977
2002, 9, 1467
2003, 5, 1656
2004, 6, 1883


You should know better than to imagine that facts will be useful in
discussions with either T. Kunich or B. Lafferty.


However, as usual it may have been that the point to his post wasn't
simple or singular. Rebellin's results do show some consistency from
1998 onwards, but the 2001 result still stands out. The trial now (re-?)
opened concerns 2001 events.

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