How Ed Dolan and Mike Vandeman came to dominate their newsgroups

"Edward Dolan" wrote in message
news:UMOdnVtmLswQfAfZnZ2dnUVZ_qCdnZ2d@prairiewave. com...

Well, that is ONE possible solution, but then what would I have to do.
Besides, I add interest to what would otherwise be a very dull group. It
would not be fair to those who come to ARBR and RBS expecting some
entertainment.

Perhaps discussions of gearing, frame types, cycling routes and such is
EXACTLY what people post for. There a million sites for "entertainment".
Why read about the non-sexual proclamations of a self-absorbed individual
when I want to know what gearing I should have when visiting the Blue
Ridge Parkway?

Nope, I cannot believe there are any humans who are so dead that they
would limit themselves to what you propose. Either be a complete human
being or be gone! I know better than you what is good for you!
Who is being limited? With a million websites (and other NGs) dedicated to
entertainment, who needs you to post junk? We're smart enough to find
entertainment on our own. Here is a place for information we can use and
share to enhance our cycling experience. Reading the ramblings of a
psychiatric throwaway does'nt cut it.

Edward Dolan wrote:
"JimmyMac" wrote in message
ps.com...

Edward Dolan wrote:
It was never my intention to dominate a newsgroup and I am sure it was
not
Mike Vandeman's intention either, but yet I do dominate ARBR and Vandeman
does dominate RBS. We both stay on our own threads and do not step on
other
threads, but it seems that it doesn't matter. Others simply go away and
before you know it all there is on these groups is Dolan and Vandeman. I
think both of us in our separate ways serve as a catalyst for a few
others
who take us on. Our messages become increasingly contentious and finally
we
are preventing others from coming onto the group. That is certainly not
my
intention and I know it is not Vandeman's intention either. But what to
do
about it?

Tis a simple problem with a simpl solution ... L E A V E !!!!!

Well, that is ONE possible solution, but then what would I have to do.
Besides, I add interest to what would otherwise be a very dull group. It
would not be fair to those who come to ARBR and RBS expecting some
entertainment.

Thanks for validating what I said of you in the past ... Ed Dolan has
little more than ARBR from which to derive meaning in his life. The
Usenet newsgroup (particularly ARBR) has assumed an exaggerated
prominence in his hierarchical order of relevance. The Usenet
newsgroup (particularly ARBR) has emerged as the source from which he
garners his sense of accomplishment and self-esteem. Regardless of his
opinion of the readership, without the lifeblood of the Usenet
newsgroup audience to sustain him, Ed Dolan has nothing and is nothing.
What a pathetic shallow existence. Pity the cantankerous, misguided,
quintessential fool. It must really suck to be head swollen ... HEAD
Dolan.

Jim McNamara


Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota



I encourage others to post to these newsgroups. Vandeman and I will stay
on
our own threads as we have always done. Neither of us interfere with
other
threads that are not up our alley. Vandeman is far more focused than I am
and is almost a one-note Johnny. I am more far ranging but I make it a
point
not to interfere with on topic messages. I would like to see both ARBR
and
RBS realize their full potential. There is simply no reason for others
not
to be posting to these two newsgroups.

RBM is the standard we should be going by. It is a very large newsgroup
and
every idiot in the world is posting to it. It is impossible for any one
person to dominate that newsgroup. But whether a newsgroup is large or
small
should not matter as long as everyone respects the threads. I repeat, I
do
not step on other's threads unless they are up my alley and neither does
Vandeman. Others should feel free to post away to their heart's content
on
ARBR and RBS. We can never be like RBM in size, but we can make up for it
in
quality.

Edward Dolan wrote:
"Chris Foster" wrote in message
05.47...
"Edward Dolan" wrote in
news:WbmdnaKzb8RdfgfZnZ2dnUVZ_qudnZ2d@prairiewave. com:
[...]
Ahhhhhhhh Blow Me.

This guy supposedly has a Ph.D. degree from the University of Illinois
in electrical engineering. Now you know why I do not reserve
unqualified respect for those with higher degrees. Jerks are jerks no
matter what!

He was also a former Marine and that now is apparently the kind of
person he has chosen to revert to for purposes of these newsgroups.
Once a grunt, always a grunt! "Semper Fi" you jar head!

I was just wondering how easy it was to [get] under your skin.

Hardly a challenge, it was easier that I thought [.]

It is not possible for anyone in cyberspace to get under my skin. Everything
is tit for tat with me. That is all it is and all it can ever be. After all,
there is real life and then there is Usenet. Only a fool would confuse and
conflate the two.

WARNING ... GaryG-like sexual innuendo comin' atcha. I've got your
"tat", but I doubt you'll erver figure out what to do with a "tit" ;^)
- Jim McNamara

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

PS. By the way, you might want to learn how to edit your posts. Others on
these newsgroups have me in their kill file and that is where you will soon
be yourself if you continue to quote me in full in your every message.
Unlike you, many others simply cannot stand a little contention. They want
all to be peace and light in their universe.

PS2. I am the best editor Usenet has ever known. It comes from my
professional training as a librarian. Follow my example and you will never
go far from wrong.

"Chris Foster" wrote in message
05.47...
"Edward Dolan" wrote in
news:S5mdnQfZj8MUZwfZnZ2dnUVZ_radnZ2d@prairiewave. com:


"Chris Foster" wrote in message
05.47...
"Edward Dolan" wrote in
news:WbmdnaKzb8RdfgfZnZ2dnUVZ_qudnZ2d@prairiewave. com:
[...]
Ahhhhhhhh Blow Me.

This guy supposedly has a Ph.D. degree from the University of
Illinois in electrical engineering. Now you know why I do not
reserve unqualified respect for those with higher degrees. Jerks are
jerks no matter what!

He was also a former Marine and that now is apparently the kind of
person he has chosen to revert to for purposes of these newsgroups.
Once a grunt, always a grunt! "Semper Fi" you jar head!

I was just wondering how easy it was to [get] under your skin.

Hardly a challenge, it was easier that I thought [.]

It is not possible for anyone in cyberspace to get under my skin.
Everything is tit for tat with me. That is all it is and all it can
ever be. After all, there is real life and then there is Usenet. Only
a fool would confuse and conflate the two.



Conan,

You got so upset are my remarks that YOU sent a e-mail to me, here it
is:


"Edward Dolan" wrote in
news:ccqdnVmFSNiu0xXZnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d@prairiewave. com:


Ahhhhh Blow Me
[...]

**** you too Chris Foster!

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

Nope, the above was NOT an email but was posted on the newsgroups for all to
see.

Then I replied, And once again, you had a hiss fit, here it is:


John,

Do not be sending any messages to me at my email address. Whatever it is
we have to say to one another can be done on Usenet where all the world
can see it and can draw their own conclusions.

You resorted to an obscenity without any reason for doing so. Like you I
spent quite a bit of time in the military and so I know EXACTLY how to
respond to such remarks. When I get a '**** you', then you get back a
'**** you too'! It is hard to believe you have any higher degrees as you
still seem to be acting like a marine grunt.

Regards,

Ed

PS. It is OK if you want to post the above message to Usenet - and we can
carry on from there.
[...]

PS. By the way, you might want to learn how to edit your posts.
Others on these newsgroups have me in their kill file and that is
where you will soon be yourself if you continue to quote me in full in
your every message. Unlike you, many others simply cannot stand a
little contention. They want all to be peace and light in their
universe.

PS2. I am the best editor Usenet has ever known. It comes from my
professional training as a librarian. Follow my example and you will
never go far from wrong.

Nope, no way I would ever send you an email first. I did send you an email
but that was in response to your email and to tell you not be sending me any
emails. Email is for family and friends and you clearly are neither. Any
more emails I get from you will be posted to the newsgroups as I want all
the world to see what a jerk you are.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

"S Curtiss" wrote in message
news:EAWmg.13605$FR1.1839@dukeread05...

"Edward Dolan" wrote in message
news:UMOdnVtmLswQfAfZnZ2dnUVZ_qCdnZ2d@prairiewave. com...

Well, that is ONE possible solution, but then what would I have to do.
Besides, I add interest to what would otherwise be a very dull group.
It would not be fair to those who come to ARBR and RBS expecting some
entertainment.

Perhaps discussions of gearing, frame types, cycling routes and such is
EXACTLY what people post for. There a million sites for "entertainment".
Why read about the non-sexual proclamations of a self-absorbed
individual when I want to know what gearing I should have when visiting
the Blue Ridge Parkway?

Nope, I cannot believe there are any humans who are so dead that they
would limit themselves to what you propose. Either be a complete human
being or be gone! I know better than you what is good for you!

Who is being limited? With a million websites (and other NGs) dedicated to
entertainment, who needs you to post junk? We're smart enough to find
entertainment on our own. Here is a place for information we can use and
share to enhance our cycling experience. Reading the ramblings of a
psychiatric throwaway does'nt [doesn't] cut it.

ALL newsgroups without any exceptions whatsoever are by and for idiots.
Therefore, it does not matter what gets posted on any of them since only
idiots like Curtiss are present. If you want intelligence, then go to a
moderated forum where an editor will get rid of the idiots and their idiotic
messages.

I repeat, there is no one on these newsgroups (unmoderated) except assholes
and jerks! What else do you need to know?

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

"JimmyMac" wrote in message
ups.com...

Edward Dolan wrote:
"JimmyMac" wrote in message
ps.com...

Edward Dolan wrote:
It was never my intention to dominate a newsgroup and I am sure it was
not
Mike Vandeman's intention either, but yet I do dominate ARBR and
Vandeman
does dominate RBS. We both stay on our own threads and do not step on
other
threads, but it seems that it doesn't matter. Others simply go away
and
before you know it all there is on these groups is Dolan and Vandeman.
I
think both of us in our separate ways serve as a catalyst for a few
others
who take us on. Our messages become increasingly contentious and
finally
we
are preventing others from coming onto the group. That is certainly
not
my
intention and I know it is not Vandeman's intention either. But what
to
do
about it?

Tis a simple problem with a simpl solution ... L E A V E !!!!!

Well, that is ONE possible solution, but then what would I have to do.
Besides, I add interest to what would otherwise be a very dull group. It
would not be fair to those who come to ARBR and RBS expecting some
entertainment.

Thanks for validating what I said of you in the past ... Ed Dolan has
little more than ARBR from which to derive meaning in his life. The
Usenet newsgroup (particularly ARBR) has assumed an exaggerated
prominence in his hierarchical order of relevance. The Usenet
newsgroup (particularly ARBR) has emerged as the source from which he
garners his sense of accomplishment and self-esteem. Regardless of his
opinion of the readership, without the lifeblood of the Usenet
newsgroup audience to sustain him, Ed Dolan has nothing and is nothing.
What a pathetic shallow existence. Pity the cantankerous, misguided,
quintessential fool. It must really suck to be head swollen ... HEAD
Dolan.

Jim McNamara

Here is Jim yet once more expressing all those doubts about himself. It is
really too bad he cannot go forth into the world like Ed Dolan the Great,
oblivious to all but himself. I stopped checking my credentials with others
by the time I was out of my teens, but apparently some guys just never get
out of their teens.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

"Edward Dolan" wrote in
news:tuydnfLdxNYxhj3ZnZ2dnUVZ_rydnZ2d@prairiewave. com:


"Chris Foster" wrote in message
05.47...
"Edward Dolan" wrote in
news:S5mdnQfZj8MUZwfZnZ2dnUVZ_radnZ2d@prairiewave. com:


"Chris Foster" wrote in message
05.47...
"Edward Dolan" wrote in
news:WbmdnaKzb8RdfgfZnZ2dnUVZ_qudnZ2d@prairiewave. com:
[...]
Ahhhhhhhh Blow Me.

This guy supposedly has a Ph.D. degree from the University of
Illinois in electrical engineering. Now you know why I do not
reserve unqualified respect for those with higher degrees. Jerks
are jerks no matter what!

He was also a former Marine and that now is apparently the kind of
person he has chosen to revert to for purposes of these
newsgroups. Once a grunt, always a grunt! "Semper Fi" you jar
head!

I was just wondering how easy it was to [get] under your skin.

Hardly a challenge, it was easier that I thought [.]

It is not possible for anyone in cyberspace to get under my skin.
Everything is tit for tat with me. That is all it is and all it can
ever be. After all, there is real life and then there is Usenet.
Only a fool would confuse and conflate the two.



Conan,

You got so upset are my remarks that YOU sent a e-mail to me, here
it
is:


"Edward Dolan" wrote in
news:ccqdnVmFSNiu0xXZnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d@prairiewave. com:


Ahhhhh Blow Me
[...]

**** you too Chris Foster!

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

Nope, the above was NOT an email but was posted on the newsgroups for
all to see.

Then I replied, And once again, you had a hiss fit, here it is:


John,

Do not be sending any messages to me at my email address. Whatever it
is we have to say to one another can be done on Usenet where all the
world can see it and can draw their own conclusions.

You resorted to an obscenity without any reason for doing so. Like
you I spent quite a bit of time in the military and so I know EXACTLY
how to respond to such remarks. When I get a '**** you', then you get
back a '**** you too'! It is hard to believe you have any higher
degrees as you still seem to be acting like a marine grunt.

Regards,

Ed

PS. It is OK if you want to post the above message to Usenet - and we
can carry on from there.
[...]

PS. By the way, you might want to learn how to edit your posts.
Others on these newsgroups have me in their kill file and that is
where you will soon be yourself if you continue to quote me in full
in your every message. Unlike you, many others simply cannot stand a
little contention. They want all to be peace and light in their
universe.

PS2. I am the best editor Usenet has ever known. It comes from my
professional training as a librarian. Follow my example and you will
never go far from wrong.

Nope, no way I would ever send you an email first. I did send you an
email but that was in response to your email and to tell you not be
sending me any emails. Email is for family and friends and you clearly
are neither. Any more emails I get from you will be posted to the
newsgroups as I want all the world to see what a jerk you are.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota




Nice try Conan, I have the e-mail you initially sent me. You started
the e-mail exchange. I just got you so ****ed that you just had to do
it, didnt you. You can deny it, but I got the proof. And here it is:

See where is states:

"Chris Foster" wrote in message
05.47...

That means I wrote my message in the news server.
All the rest of the header is a e-mail header.

To sum it up. You stated the e-mail exchange, now you are tring to deny
it, Vandy, would of course, type the word liar in all caps, but that is
simply too childish for me.



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"Chris Foster" wrote in message
05.47...
"Edward Dolan" wrote in
news:ccqdnVmFSNiu0xXZnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d@prairiewave. com:


Ahhhhh Blow Me
[...]

**** you too Chris Foster!

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota




--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

"Edward Dolan" wrote in
:


"S Curtiss" wrote in message
news:EAWmg.13605$FR1.1839@dukeread05...

"Edward Dolan" wrote in message
news:UMOdnVtmLswQfAfZnZ2dnUVZ_qCdnZ2d@prairiewave. com...

Well, that is ONE possible solution, but then what would I have to
do. Besides, I add interest to what would otherwise be a very dull
group. It would not be fair to those who come to ARBR and RBS
expecting some entertainment.

Perhaps discussions of gearing, frame types, cycling routes and
such is EXACTLY what people post for. There a million sites for
"entertainment". Why read about the non-sexual proclamations of a
self-absorbed individual when I want to know what gearing I should
have when visiting the Blue Ridge Parkway?

Nope, I cannot believe there are any humans who are so dead that
they would limit themselves to what you propose. Either be a
complete human being or be gone! I know better than you what is good
for you!

Who is being limited? With a million websites (and other NGs)
dedicated to entertainment, who needs you to post junk? We're smart
enough to find entertainment on our own. Here is a place for
information we can use and share to enhance our cycling experience.
Reading the ramblings of a psychiatric throwaway does'nt [doesn't]
cut it.

ALL newsgroups without any exceptions whatsoever are by and for
idiots. Therefore, it does not matter what gets posted on any of them
since only idiots like Curtiss are present. If you want intelligence,
then go to a moderated forum where an editor will get rid of the
idiots and their idiotic messages.

I repeat, there is no one on these newsgroups (unmoderated) except
assholes and jerks! What else do you need to know?

You are, of course, including yourself in that group of asshoes and
jerks.



Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota





--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

"Edward Dolan" wrote in
news:krWdnV3LP5fMgj3ZnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@prairiewave. com:


"JimmyMac" wrote in message
ups.com...

Edward Dolan wrote:
"JimmyMac" wrote in message
ps.com...

Edward Dolan wrote:
It was never my intention to dominate a newsgroup and I am sure
it was not
Mike Vandeman's intention either, but yet I do dominate ARBR and
Vandeman
does dominate RBS. We both stay on our own threads and do not
step on other
threads, but it seems that it doesn't matter. Others simply go
away and
before you know it all there is on these groups is Dolan and
Vandeman. I
think both of us in our separate ways serve as a catalyst for a
few others
who take us on. Our messages become increasingly contentious and
finally
we
are preventing others from coming onto the group. That is
certainly not
my
intention and I know it is not Vandeman's intention either. But
what to
do
about it?

Tis a simple problem with a simpl solution ... L E A V E !!!!!

Well, that is ONE possible solution, but then what would I have to
do. Besides, I add interest to what would otherwise be a very dull
group. It would not be fair to those who come to ARBR and RBS
expecting some entertainment.

Thanks for validating what I said of you in the past ... Ed Dolan has
little more than ARBR from which to derive meaning in his life. The
Usenet newsgroup (particularly ARBR) has assumed an exaggerated
prominence in his hierarchical order of relevance. The Usenet
newsgroup (particularly ARBR) has emerged as the source from which he
garners his sense of accomplishment and self-esteem. Regardless of
his opinion of the readership, without the lifeblood of the Usenet
newsgroup audience to sustain him, Ed Dolan has nothing and is
nothing. What a pathetic shallow existence. Pity the cantankerous,
misguided, quintessential fool. It must really suck to be head
swollen ... HEAD Dolan.

Jim McNamara

Here is Jim yet once more expressing all those doubts about himself.
It is really too bad he cannot go forth into the world like Ed Dolan
the Great, oblivious to all but himself. I stopped checking my
credentials with others by the time I was out of my teens, but
apparently some guys just never get out of their teens.



There is nothing more to say here, Jim said it all with blazing accuracy


Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota





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"Chris Foster" wrote in message
05.47...
[...]
Nice try Conan, I have the e-mail you initially sent me. You started
the e-mail exchange. I just got you so ****ed that you just had to do
it, didnt you. You can deny it, but I got the proof. And here it is:

See where is states:

"Chris Foster" wrote in message
05.47...

That means I wrote my message in the news server.
All the rest of the header is a e-mail header.

To sum it up. You stated the e-mail exchange, now you are tring to deny
it, Vandy, would of course, type the word liar in all caps, but that is
simply too childish for me.

Nope, I got your message in my email box and I did not see in on the
newsgroup. I NEVER send anyone an email message that is connected to the
newsgroups unless I get an email from them first. My standard policy is to
discourage all such communication as I like to keep Usenet separate from my
real life. Elementary, my dear Watson!
[...]

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota