When did tires get so expensive?

On Jan 15, 6:13 pm, "Bill Sornson" wrote:
"Tºm Shermªn™ °_°" wrote in ...

Mozilla Thunderbird, that is:
http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/, and not Gallo
Thunderbird [1].

I downloaded Firefox long ago, but didn't really care for it. I'll have to
check out T'bird.

Yours for the low, low price of $0.00. Use it for just Usenet, if for
some reason you want to keep using Windows Live Mail for regular email.

I actually like the e-mail interface. Few quirks, but the Calendar sidebar
feature is proving useful. I'll investigate using Mozilla for Usenet only
(if I ever take the time).

Thanks.

[1] http://www.bumwine.com/tbird.html. [2]
[2] How's it sold? Good and cold!'

High-class lowlifes USED to drink Boones Farm Strawberry Wine. But that was
38 years ago or so.

BS

Night Train for me. (The Bules Brothers being my favorite movie.)

Let me mail you a copy of Learning Red Hat with a pair of CD's inside
the covers. You start reading the book, stick in the CD, turn on the
computer, click next a bunch of times, and voila! Up-and running a
free system. Send your ship to my gmail.

On 1/16/2011 12:56 AM, Dan O wrote:
On Jan 15, 6:13 pm, "Bill wrote:
"Tºm Shermªn™ °_°" wrote in ...

Mozilla Thunderbird, that is:
http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/, and not Gallo
Thunderbird [1].
I downloaded Firefox long ago, but didn't really care for it. I'll have to
check out T'bird.

Yours for the low, low price of $0.00. Use it for just Usenet, if for
some reason you want to keep using Windows Live Mail for regular email.
I actually like the e-mail interface. Few quirks, but the Calendar sidebar
feature is proving useful. I'll investigate using Mozilla for Usenet only
(if I ever take the time).

Thanks.

[1]http://www.bumwine.com/tbird.html. [2]
[2] How's it sold? Good and cold!'
High-class lowlifes USED to drink Boones Farm Strawberry Wine. But that was
38 years ago or so.

BS
Night Train for me. (The Bules Brothers being my favorite movie.)

Let me mail you a copy of Learning Red Hat with a pair of CD's inside
the covers. You start reading the book, stick in the CD, turn on the
computer, click next a bunch of times, and voila! Up-and running a
free system. Send your ship to my gmail.
Changing your OS to get you news groups working seems radical.

On 1/15/2011 9:13 PM, Bill Sornson wrote:
"Tºm Shermªn™ °_°" wrote in message
...

Mozilla Thunderbird, that is:
http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/, and not Gallo
Thunderbird [1].

I downloaded Firefox long ago, but didn't really care for it. I'll
have to check out T'bird.

Yours for the low, low price of $0.00. Use it for just Usenet, if
for some reason you want to keep using Windows Live Mail for regular
email.

I actually like the e-mail interface. Few quirks, but the Calendar
sidebar feature is proving useful. I'll investigate using Mozilla for
Usenet only (if I ever take the time).

Thanks.


At the office, I'm forced to use Vista, Windows Mail was so buggy that I
switched to WLM. After the latest version, I installed Thunderbird.

At home, I run XP Pro and I don't mind OE too much for email. I
installed Thunderbird for NNTP for testing but having decided which one
I like best yet.

Not too wild about Firefox. Seems much slower than IE.

On 01/16/2011 09:11 AM, Duane Hebert wrote:
On 1/15/2011 9:13 PM, Bill Sornson wrote:
"Tºm Shermªn™ °_°" wrote in message
...

Mozilla Thunderbird, that is:
http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/, and not Gallo
Thunderbird [1].

I downloaded Firefox long ago, but didn't really care for it. I'll
have to check out T'bird.

Yours for the low, low price of $0.00. Use it for just Usenet, if for
some reason you want to keep using Windows Live Mail for regular email.

I actually like the e-mail interface. Few quirks, but the Calendar
sidebar feature is proving useful. I'll investigate using Mozilla for
Usenet only (if I ever take the time).

Thanks.


At the office, I'm forced to use Vista, Windows Mail was so buggy that I
switched to WLM. After the latest version, I installed Thunderbird.

At home, I run XP Pro and I don't mind OE too much for email. I
installed Thunderbird for NNTP for testing but having decided which one
I like best yet.

Not too wild about Firefox. Seems much slower than IE.



I like t'bird, I like firefox, the lightning add on has been problematic
but I think that's a problem with the official Ubuntu repositories not
any Mozilla product.

I just wish that I didn't also have to install Seamonkey (duplicating
the mail/newsreader and web browser) just to get the HTML editor, which
I also use. I know it's probably not the best tool for the job, but for
maintaining my small personal web space it's perfectly adequate... I
could probably do the editing in a text editor, but the WYSIWYG of a
real HTML editor is nice.

nate

--
replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply.
http://members.cox.net/njnagel

On 01/16/2011 09:08 AM, Duane Hebert wrote:
On 1/16/2011 12:56 AM, Dan O wrote:
On Jan 15, 6:13 pm, "Bill wrote:
"Tºm Shermªn™ °_°" wrote in
...

Mozilla Thunderbird, that is:
http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/, and not Gallo
Thunderbird [1].
I downloaded Firefox long ago, but didn't really care for it. I'll
have to
check out T'bird.

Yours for the low, low price of $0.00. Use it for just Usenet, if for
some reason you want to keep using Windows Live Mail for regular email.
I actually like the e-mail interface. Few quirks, but the Calendar
sidebar
feature is proving useful. I'll investigate using Mozilla for Usenet
only
(if I ever take the time).

Thanks.

[1]http://www.bumwine.com/tbird.html. [2]
[2] How's it sold? Good and cold!'
High-class lowlifes USED to drink Boones Farm Strawberry Wine. But
that was
38 years ago or so.

BS
Night Train for me. (The Bules Brothers being my favorite movie.)

Let me mail you a copy of Learning Red Hat with a pair of CD's inside
the covers. You start reading the book, stick in the CD, turn on the
computer, click next a bunch of times, and voila! Up-and running a
free system. Send your ship to my gmail.
Changing your OS to get you news groups working seems radical.

but whatever gets people off Windows and onto anything else is a
positive step, IMHO.

Every time I think Windows couldn't get any worse, it does, meanwhile
Linux keeps getting better and better. Can't speak to MacOS as I
haven't used one in about 15 years.

nate

--
replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply.
http://members.cox.net/njnagel

On Jan 16, 8:08*am, Duane Hebert wrote:
On 1/16/2011 12:56 AM, Dan O wrote:







On Jan 15, 6:13 pm, "Bill *wrote:
"Tºm Shermªn™ °_°" *wrote in ...

Mozilla Thunderbird, that is:
http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/, and not Gallo
Thunderbird [1].
I downloaded Firefox long ago, but didn't really care for it. *I'll have to
check out T'bird.

Yours for the low, low price of $0.00. *Use it for just Usenet, if for
some reason you want to keep using Windows Live Mail for regular email.
I actually like the e-mail interface. *Few quirks, but the Calendar sidebar
feature is proving useful. *I'll investigate using Mozilla for Usenet only
(if I ever take the time).

Thanks.

[1]http://www.bumwine.com/tbird.html. [2]
[2] How's it sold? *Good and cold!'
High-class lowlifes USED to drink Boones Farm Strawberry Wine. *But that was
38 years ago or so.

BS
Night Train for me. *(The Bules Brothers being my favorite movie.)

Let me mail you a copy of Learning Red Hat with a pair of CD's inside
the covers. *You start reading the book, stick in the CD, turn on the
computer, click next a bunch of times, and voila! *Up-and running a
free system. *Send your ship to my gmail.

Changing your OS to get you news groups working seems radical.

Indeed. Most of the Mac users I know suggest changing not only OS, but
hardware--and even putting a smug decal on the back of the Subaru, as
a solution to problems on computers running anything other than OSX.

On Jan 16, 6:08 am, Duane Hebert wrote:
On 1/16/2011 12:56 AM, Dan O wrote:

On Jan 15, 6:13 pm, "Bill wrote:
"Tºm Shermªn™ °_°" wrote in ...

Mozilla Thunderbird, that is:
http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/, and not Gallo
Thunderbird [1].
I downloaded Firefox long ago, but didn't really care for it. I'll have to
check out T'bird.

Yours for the low, low price of $0.00. Use it for just Usenet, if for
some reason you want to keep using Windows Live Mail for regular email.
I actually like the e-mail interface. Few quirks, but the Calendar sidebar
feature is proving useful. I'll investigate using Mozilla for Usenet only
(if I ever take the time).

Thanks.

[1]http://www.bumwine.com/tbird.html. [2]
[2] How's it sold? Good and cold!'
High-class lowlifes USED to drink Boones Farm Strawberry Wine. But that was
38 years ago or so.

BS
Night Train for me. (The Bules Brothers being my favorite movie.)

Let me mail you a copy of Learning Red Hat with a pair of CD's inside
the covers. You start reading the book, stick in the CD, turn on the
computer, click next a bunch of times, and voila! Up-and running a
free system. Send your ship to my gmail.

Changing your OS to get you news groups working seems radical.

It is, but in a good sort of way. Bill has a history of his "buggy
computer" (his words) not allowing him access to usenet. Now messing
up internet convention with their buggy beta commercial software, he
was fussing about the evil empire earlier in the thread:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.b...ac85a97c1dad1b

http://www.debian.org/

Beside, it's easy as pie to split a hard disk with something like
gparted and dual boot M$ Windblows and Debian with something like
grub. Heck, I have a very old slow laptop running RH in a VM under
Windows 2000. I think that Red Hat Book I offered to mail him even
tells you how. (I got three or four for a few bucks apiece to give
friends. ISTR it's RH 8 or so - still all free. It installs easily
and runs great in like 64 MB RAM, and comes up connected to the Web if
you have TCP/IP to a gateway. Debian, too. I mean, really, with
Google you don't hardly need anything else 98% of the time, and Debian
loads you up with state of the art internet applications - all free.

People ask me for adivce about their buggy computers. I would tell
them to stick that bootable RH 8 disk 1 in their computer, power it
up, and follow the directions (how cool that it comes with the book
Learning Red Hat). So far I only gave out one, so I'm sure there's
one around here for my good friend Bill (who really needs to see the
light :-)

Then there's slax and other live cd's:

http://www.slax.org/

On Jan 16, 6:42 am, Nate Nagel wrote:
On 01/16/2011 09:11 AM, Duane Hebert wrote:



On 1/15/2011 9:13 PM, Bill Sornson wrote:
"Tºm Shermªn™ °_°" wrote in message
...

Mozilla Thunderbird, that is:
http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/, and not Gallo
Thunderbird [1].

I downloaded Firefox long ago, but didn't really care for it. I'll
have to check out T'bird.

Yours for the low, low price of $0.00. Use it for just Usenet, if for
some reason you want to keep using Windows Live Mail for regular email.

I actually like the e-mail interface. Few quirks, but the Calendar
sidebar feature is proving useful. I'll investigate using Mozilla for
Usenet only (if I ever take the time).

Thanks.

At the office, I'm forced to use Vista, Windows Mail was so buggy that I
switched to WLM. After the latest version, I installed Thunderbird.

At home, I run XP Pro and I don't mind OE too much for email. I
installed Thunderbird for NNTP for testing but having decided which one
I like best yet.

Not too wild about Firefox. Seems much slower than IE.

I like t'bird, I like firefox, the lightning add on has been problematic
but I think that's a problem with the official Ubuntu repositories not
any Mozilla product.

I just wish that I didn't also have to install Seamonkey (duplicating
the mail/newsreader and web browser) just to get the HTML editor, which
I also use. I know it's probably not the best tool for the job, but for
maintaining my small personal web space it's perfectly adequate... I
could probably do the editing in a text editor, but the WYSIWYG of a
real HTML editor is nice.


WYSIWYG on the monitor connected to your terminal displaying the
output of your system. When typing the code you pick the "standard".
HTML 2.0 or so isn't that tough to type out.

On Jan 16, 10:35 am, Dan O wrote:
On Jan 16, 6:42 am, Nate Nagel wrote:



On 01/16/2011 09:11 AM, Duane Hebert wrote:

On 1/15/2011 9:13 PM, Bill Sornson wrote:
"Tºm Shermªn™ °_°" wrote in message
...

Mozilla Thunderbird, that is:
http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/, and not Gallo
Thunderbird [1].

I downloaded Firefox long ago, but didn't really care for it. I'll
have to check out T'bird.

Yours for the low, low price of $0.00. Use it for just Usenet, if for
some reason you want to keep using Windows Live Mail for regular email.

I actually like the e-mail interface. Few quirks, but the Calendar
sidebar feature is proving useful. I'll investigate using Mozilla for
Usenet only (if I ever take the time).

Thanks.

At the office, I'm forced to use Vista, Windows Mail was so buggy that I
switched to WLM. After the latest version, I installed Thunderbird.

At home, I run XP Pro and I don't mind OE too much for email. I
installed Thunderbird for NNTP for testing but having decided which one
I like best yet.

Not too wild about Firefox. Seems much slower than IE.

I like t'bird, I like firefox, the lightning add on has been problematic
but I think that's a problem with the official Ubuntu repositories not
any Mozilla product.

I just wish that I didn't also have to install Seamonkey (duplicating
the mail/newsreader and web browser) just to get the HTML editor, which
I also use. I know it's probably not the best tool for the job, but for
maintaining my small personal web space it's perfectly adequate... I
could probably do the editing in a text editor, but the WYSIWYG of a
real HTML editor is nice.

WYSIWYG on the monitor connected to your terminal displaying the
output of your system. When typing the code you pick the "standard".
HTML 2.0 or so isn't that tough to type out.

.... although, understanding the behavior of the editing environment, I
could appreciate a code generator as much as the next guy :-) Seems
like you gotta type something somewhere; might as well be your own
source code for when you need to get in there and fix something.

On Jan 16, 12:32*pm, Dan O wrote:
On Jan 16, 6:08 am, Duane Hebert wrote:









On 1/16/2011 12:56 AM, Dan O wrote:

On Jan 15, 6:13 pm, "Bill *wrote:
"Tºm Shermªn™ °_°" *wrote in ...

Mozilla Thunderbird, that is:
http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/, and not Gallo
Thunderbird [1].
I downloaded Firefox long ago, but didn't really care for it. *I'll have to
check out T'bird.

Yours for the low, low price of $0.00. *Use it for just Usenet, if for
some reason you want to keep using Windows Live Mail for regular email.
I actually like the e-mail interface. *Few quirks, but the Calendar sidebar
feature is proving useful. *I'll investigate using Mozilla for Usenet only
(if I ever take the time).

Thanks.

[1]http://www.bumwine.com/tbird.html. [2]
[2] How's it sold? *Good and cold!'
High-class lowlifes USED to drink Boones Farm Strawberry Wine. *But that was
38 years ago or so.

BS
Night Train for me. *(The Bules Brothers being my favorite movie.)

Let me mail you a copy of Learning Red Hat with a pair of CD's inside
the covers. *You start reading the book, stick in the CD, turn on the
computer, click next a bunch of times, and voila! *Up-and running a
free system. *Send your ship to my gmail.

Changing your OS to get you news groups working seems radical.

It is, but in a good sort of way. *Bill has a history of his "buggy
computer" (his words) not allowing him access to usenet. *Now messing
up internet convention with their buggy beta commercial software, he
was fussing about the evil empire earlier in the thread:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.b...ac85a97c1dad1b

http://www.debian.org/

Beside, it's easy as pie to split a hard disk with something like
gparted and dual boot M$ Windblows and Debian with something like
grub. *Heck, I have a very old slow laptop running RH in a VM under
Windows 2000. *I think that Red Hat Book I offered to mail him even
tells you how. *(I got three or four for a few bucks apiece to give
friends. *ISTR it's RH 8 or so - still all free. *It installs easily
and runs great in like 64 MB RAM, and comes up connected to the Web if
you have TCP/IP to a gateway. *Debian, too. *I mean, really, with
Google you don't hardly need anything else 98% of the time, and Debian
loads you up with state of the art internet applications - all free.

People ask me for adivce about their buggy computers. *I would tell
them to stick that bootable RH 8 disk 1 in their computer, power it
up, and follow the directions (how cool that it comes with the book
Learning Red Hat). *So far I only gave out one, so I'm sure there's
one around here for my good friend Bill (who really needs to see the
light :-)

Then there's slax and other live cd's:

http://www.slax.org/

Four words solve most Windows problems:

don't run as administrator