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John B. wrote:
About ISO ISO is an independent, non-governmental international organization with a membership of 162 national standards bodies. Through its members, it brings together experts to share knowledge and develop voluntary, consensus-based, market relevant International Standards that support innovation and provide solutions to global challenges. Did you or anyone else on this list actually buy a standard, and if so which one, how much did it cost, and most importantly, did it help you solve the global challenge that you were up against? -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 |
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On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 19:04:56 +0200, Emanuel Berg
wrote: John B. wrote: About ISO ISO is an independent, non-governmental international organization with a membership of 162 national standards bodies. Through its members, it brings together experts to share knowledge and develop voluntary, consensus-based, market relevant International Standards that support innovation and provide solutions to global challenges. Did you or anyone else on this list actually buy a standard, and if so which one, how much did it cost, and most importantly, did it help you solve the global challenge that you were up against? Global Challenge? Of a screwdriver? -- Cheers, John B. |
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John B. wrote:
About ISO ISO is an independent, non-governmental international organization with a membership of 162 national standards bodies. Through its members, it brings together experts to share knowledge and develop voluntary, consensus-based, market relevant International Standards that support innovation and provide solutions to global challenges. Did you or anyone else on this list actually buy a standard, and if so which one, how much did it cost, and most importantly, did it help you solve the global challenge that you were up against? Global Challenge? Of a screwdriver? Your quote: Through its members, it brings together experts to share knowledge and develop voluntary, consensus-based, market relevant International Standards that support innovation and provide solutions to global challenges. This hitting the big drum pretending to be altruists on the world scene makes it even more silly they ain't available as PDFs. -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 |
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On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 02:51:14 +0200, Emanuel Berg
wrote: John B. wrote: About ISO ISO is an independent, non-governmental international organization with a membership of 162 national standards bodies. Through its members, it brings together experts to share knowledge and develop voluntary, consensus-based, market relevant International Standards that support innovation and provide solutions to global challenges. Did you or anyone else on this list actually buy a standard, and if so which one, how much did it cost, and most importantly, did it help you solve the global challenge that you were up against? Global Challenge? Of a screwdriver? Your quote: Through its members, it brings together experts to share knowledge and develop voluntary, consensus-based, market relevant International Standards that support innovation and provide solutions to global challenges. This hitting the big drum pretending to be altruists on the world scene makes it even more silly they ain't available as PDFs. Did you actually look? Or are you just sitting there ranting and raving? see https://www.iso.org/news/2008/07/Ref1141.html Not the date of the post... 2008, or 9 years ago. -- Cheers, John B. |
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John B. wrote:
see https://www.iso.org/news/2008/07/Ref1141.html Not the date of the post... 2008, or 9 years ago. The ISO standards, including ISO 2380, as well as the national standards (all of ANSI, DIN, SI, or whatever), should be available on the net free of charge as PDF documents. -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 |
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On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 04:43:39 +0200, Emanuel Berg
wrote: John B. wrote: see https://www.iso.org/news/2008/07/Ref1141.html Not the date of the post... 2008, or 9 years ago. The ISO standards, including ISO 2380, as well as the national standards (all of ANSI, DIN, SI, or whatever), should be available on the net free of charge as PDF documents. Again "why". A standards organization is not necessarily a governmental standard, paid for by governmental funds, in fact the ISO is a private organization, it is described as: "ISO, the International Organization for Standardization, is an independent, non-governmental organization, the members of which are the standards organizations of the 163 member countries. It is the world's largest developer of voluntary international standards and facilitates world trade by providing common standards between nations." -- Cheers, John B. |
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On Sunday, September 17, 2017 at 10:11:14 PM UTC-4, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 02:51:14 +0200, Emanuel Berg wrote: John B. wrote: About ISO ISO is an independent, non-governmental international organization with a membership of 162 national standards bodies. Through its members, it brings together experts to share knowledge and develop voluntary, consensus-based, market relevant International Standards that support innovation and provide solutions to global challenges. Did you or anyone else on this list actually buy a standard, and if so which one, how much did it cost, and most importantly, did it help you solve the global challenge that you were up against? Global Challenge? Of a screwdriver? Your quote: Through its members, it brings together experts to share knowledge and develop voluntary, consensus-based, market relevant International Standards that support innovation and provide solutions to global challenges. This hitting the big drum pretending to be altruists on the world scene makes it even more silly they ain't available as PDFs. Did you actually look? Or are you just sitting there ranting and raving? see https://www.iso.org/news/2008/07/Ref1141.html Not the date of the post... 2008, or 9 years ago. -- Cheers, John B. Look at his various threads and you'll see that in each and every one he soon starts arguing. Methinks he's just a Troll. Cheers |
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John B. wrote:
Again "why". A standards organization is not necessarily a governmental standard, paid for by governmental funds, in fact the ISO is a private organization Information is of no use if it isn't distributed. Today the law is available online, all research carried out by the universities, all governmental business that isn't classified, and so on. Apart from this making total sense from the reader/user's POV, it also makes for better information, with more people inspecting it, and with it being put to the test on the field much more often. So it is a win-win. So why not with industrial/craft standards as well? Besides very few people will spend their hard-earned money on a document that can be duplicated in an instant, with no loss, and without expense. The druid days of secret scrolls are over. Today it is the other way around, the best scrolls by far are those that have been out in the open since decades. -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 |
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On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 07:39:25 +0200, Emanuel Berg
wrote: John B. wrote: Again "why". A standards organization is not necessarily a governmental standard, paid for by governmental funds, in fact the ISO is a private organization Information is of no use if it isn't distributed. Today the law is available online, all research carried out by the universities, all governmental business that isn't classified, and so on. You certainly don't know what you are talking about, do you? Certainly a country's laws are on line, but that isn't the whole story because the "law" isn't just a bunch of words on paper. It is the law on paper plus every Precedent, i.e., interpretation of those words made by every judge that ruled on what the law actually meant, and in other cases what the punishment should be. As for "government business" I'm not quite sure what you mean but when I was in the Military I certainly worked on "secret items". -- Cheers, John B. |
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On 9/17/2017 11:21 PM, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 04:43:39 +0200, Emanuel Berg wrote: John B. wrote: see https://www.iso.org/news/2008/07/Ref1141.html Not the date of the post... 2008, or 9 years ago. The ISO standards, including ISO 2380, as well as the national standards (all of ANSI, DIN, SI, or whatever), should be available on the net free of charge as PDF documents. Again "why". A standards organization is not necessarily a governmental standard, paid for by governmental funds, in fact the ISO is a private organization, it is described as: "ISO, the International Organization for Standardization, is an independent, non-governmental organization, the members of which are the standards organizations of the 163 member countries. It is the world's largest developer of voluntary international standards and facilitates world trade by providing common standards between nations." some with a more cynical viewpoint would say, "racket". -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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