how long does a broken collarbone take ?

hizark21 wrote:

On Mar 23, 9:12*am, wrote:
re LA; if he's out due to broken collarbone, how long on avg. would it
be before he can race again ?

On cyclinengews.com they estimated it would take 4-6 weeks for Lance
to recover. This probably eliminates Lance's Giro chances. This may
also effectively end his TDF chances as well.

Lance will win the Tour. Stop acting like an idiot.

Magilla

Benjo Maso wrote:

"dave a" schreef in bericht
...
John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:



Even before he crashed he was saying he might leave the Giro early because
his girlfriend could have the baby early.

This begs the question of how planned was this? Would you knock up your
honey nine months before a major race you planned to win?

Probably Armstrong hoped to pass the finish line with a dummy teat in his
mouth.

Benjo

If Lance ever wears a ****ing pacifier in his mouth on the podium or when
crossing the finish line - or a "binky" as faggots call it - I will never post
in here again.

Magilla

On Mar 23, 3:39*pm, Susan Walker wrote:
John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:
If it was Amstrong back in the day, I don't think that would matter
much at all. He'd take a week off riding, then be training very hard
as he always does

Just heard on Dutch TV, from his "close" friend sports commentator Mart
Smeets, that Armstrong rode the upcoming Tour TT *five* times in the
week before MSR and that he tried to keep it quiet.

shows you can't trust your "friends"

On Mar 23, 8:03*pm, MagillaGorilla wrote:
wrote:
re LA; if he's out due to broken collarbone, how long on avg. would it
be before he can race again ?

Your question is wrong. * Here's why. * Lance wanted to win the Giro.
With this broken collarbone, he probably cannot win the Giro. * So now
he's ****ed off.

And now I gotta sit here and listen to all you Lance lovers talk stupid
as if Lance can win a race like the Giro after coming off a 4-week
vacation. *He cannot. *Or at least he doesn't want to.

Lance doesn't like racing when he's not 100% prepared. *That's why he
skipped the Athens Olympics. *That's why he skips worlds every year.

Thanks,

Magilla

He couldn't win the giro regardless. His aim clearly was the big
mouth. Now he will try to win leadville then do the hour. but
otherwise I believe the dream is over.

On Mar 23, 9:05*pm, MagillaGorilla wrote:

dumbass,

correct. the more you are in over your head the more likely you are to
crash. armstrong might have caught some danielsonitis.

Damn, that's a nice word. *I'm not sure why I didn't think of it first.

Magilla

dumbass,

i have to wonder about the hincapie factor.

you know how certain guys, when you're on their wheel you know they
won't get gapped or get into a crash (and some guys are the exact
opposite). i figure hincapie must be that guy (even if he will never
win roubaix or speak a full sentence). i can't see any other reason
why armstrong would always have him around.

Susan Walker wrote:
Carl Sundquist wrote:
Susan Walker wrote:
wrote:
re LA; if he's out due to broken collarbone, how long on avg. would it
be before he can race again ?

Six weeks.

Sooner if it's plated.

Right. Think he'll go out of his way to get to the start of the Giro?
Perhaps he will, to get to the Tour start in *some* sort of condition.

Electronic bone growth stimulators, too.

On Mar 23, 1:11*pm, William Asher wrote:
hizark21 wrote:
On Mar 23, 9:12*am, wrote:
re LA; if he's out due to broken collarbone, how long on avg. would it
be before he can race again ?

On cyclinengews.com they estimated it would take 4-6 weeks for Lance
to recover. This probably eliminates Lance's Giro chances. This may
also effectively end his TDF chances as well.


Oh please if anything this increases the pressure on Lance for the
TDF. One month is a short time to get ready for the TDF.

How come nobody is raising the conspiracy theory that this "broken
collarbone" happened to take the pressure off Lance to do well in the Giro
or TdF? *Now, if he doesn't do well, everyone can say it simply isn't
because he isn't doping, it's because he didn't have time to train because
of the injury (if you think Armstrong was clean) or because he didn't have
time to adjust his doping schedule to perfection as before (if you think
Armstrong is a doper). *So instead of having only one plausible reason for
him tanking at the grand tours that doesn't involved doping, we now have
several, or maybe 2.5 depending on how you count and whether you assign
fractional values to the conspiracy theories. *What this does is lower the
odds of him doping from 50/50 to something else, but the guys from rbt will
have to flesh out the theory from here. *

When I write this up into book form, I'll autograph copies for people. *

--
Bill Asher

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re LA; if he's out due to broken collarbone, how long on avg. would it
be before he can race again ?

Apparently there is an "aggressive surgery" option that can cut downtime
pretty substantially.

http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/cyclin...ory?id=4010909

"One study published in the British Journal of Sports Medicine in 2003
examined high-performance athletes with minimally displaced fractures
who underwent surgery using titanium nails to address the break. These
athletes were able to return to training in an average of six days and
to competition within an average of 17 days, far quicker than would be
possible without surgery."

It's believable. When I broke the bone at the base of my thumb, I was
told 8 weeks in a cast. I explained that doesn't work for me, and I'd
read that there were surgical options that could substantially reduce
that. So they bring in the hand surgeon specialist, put a titanium screw
in and voila, 2.5 weeks later and I'm fully functional again. A bit of
pain due to some ligament & muscle tears, but I'm not complaining. They
also claim much better long-term freedom from arthritis, a serious issue
with bones left to mend themselves sort of into position.

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

hizark21 wrote:
On Mar 23, 1:11 pm, William Asher wrote:
hizark21 wrote:
On Mar 23, 9:12 am, wrote:
re LA; if he's out due to broken collarbone, how long on avg. would it
be before he can race again ?
On cyclinengews.com they estimated it would take 4-6 weeks for Lance
to recover. This probably eliminates Lance's Giro chances. This may
also effectively end his TDF chances as well.

Oh please if anything this increases the pressure on Lance for the
TDF. One month is a short time to get ready for the TDF.


He'll be riding on a trainer by the weekend. He'll be on the road well
before the last week of April without surgery. He could be back on the
road in less than 10 days if he gets it plated.


http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.c...8413/index.htm




How come nobody is raising the conspiracy theory that this "broken
collarbone" happened to take the pressure off Lance to do well in the Giro
or TdF? Now, if he doesn't do well, everyone can say it simply isn't
because he isn't doping, it's because he didn't have time to train because
of the injury (if you think Armstrong was clean) or because he didn't have
time to adjust his doping schedule to perfection as before (if you think
Armstrong is a doper). So instead of having only one plausible reason for
him tanking at the grand tours that doesn't involved doping, we now have
several, or maybe 2.5 depending on how you count and whether you assign
fractional values to the conspiracy theories. What this does is lower the
odds of him doping from 50/50 to something else, but the guys from rbt will
have to flesh out the theory from here.

When I write this up into book form, I'll autograph copies for people.

--
Bill Asher

On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:17:07 -0700 (PDT), Amit Ghosh
wrote:

you know how certain guys, when you're on their wheel you know they
won't get gapped or get into a crash (and some guys are the exact
opposite). i figure hincapie must be that guy (even if he will never
win roubaix or speak a full sentence). i can't see any other reason
why armstrong would always have him around.

Trustworthy guy who can set crazy tempo in the fifth and sixth hour
(or seventh as we saw at MSR).