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Precious Pup wrote:
Chalo wrote: Any enthusiast with enough wits about him to spec his own machine can and should avoid Shimano. Who gives a **** about avoiding or favoring? I care about what is in my interests, not the LBS, KMART, Ace Hardware, Shimano, Campy, SunRace, or whomever else. I could not care less if my components say "campy, shimano, SunRace, falcon,..... or whatever" as long as they work and fit within my budget. .... Screw any bizarre sense of loyalty. If you buy from a manufacturer whose trade practices eradicate variety in the market, you act to reduce your own range of choices. Buying Shimano works for you if you only ever want Shimano parts. But if you like having other options to choose from, buying Shimano works against the existence of those options, by means known to encompass both "fair" and "unfair" trade practices. The ability to spec one's own bike, rather than simply having Shimano Inc. decide what parts you want and in what combinations, depends on maintaining some other options. The choices available have deteriorated enough lately that it's irresponsible to give Shimano any money if you value having other products to choose from. To adopt a wider focus: Pup, you have too much faith in the capitalist so-called "free market". It is good at some things, like maximizing consumption, but not so good at others, like conserving finite resources. It rewards skills combined with greed, but it punishes those who are not greedy, no matter how virtuous they may be. It's terrific at pandering to the lowest common denominator, but it sucks at serving uncommon needs. You, Pup, may not care whether there is variety in the marketplace, clean water in the river, and room for folks without ambitions to have a comfortable living. But many people do. And unbridled capitalist practice acts to eradicate all these things. Chalo Colina |
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DiabloScott wrote: (Note that Performance owns Nashbar and Supergo - could be some serious market manipulation there). Their prices are distinctly lower than LBSs. So I can take that sort of "manipulation" easily. If the practices are clearly anti-competetive, then competiting retail outlets should be able to file a class action suit. I wonder why they haven't, but I hope they do if the complaint is true. After all, I like more competition because it tends to push the price down, other things equal. |
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Precious Pup wrote:
I don't delude myself into thinking my choices will be noticable to companies selling huge quantities. And the watershed won't really be harmed if you dump just your own used motor oil, right? Collective trends are made one individual at a time. Where you spend your dollars is more influential than where you spend your vote. Chalo Colina |
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Precious Pup wrote:
I don't delude myself into thinking my choices will be noticable to companies selling huge quantities. And the watershed won't really be harmed if you dump just your own used motor oil, right? Collective trends are made one individual at a time. Where you spend your dollars is more influential than where you spend your vote. Chalo Colina |
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Chalo wrote: Precious Pup wrote: I don't delude myself into thinking my choices will be noticable to companies selling huge quantities. And the watershed won't really be harmed if you dump just your own used motor oil, right? Please give me a break. Collective trends are made one individual at a time. Where you spend your dollars is more influential than where you spend your vote. Okay. I spend on me and I vote for me; it is the only ethical and sensible thing to do. If the purchase happens to be Shimano, then so be it. I won't shed one tear. |
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