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In rec.bicycles.misc Corvus Corvax wrote:
: I'll step up to the plate on this one. Any man who doesn't know how to : properly iron a collared shirt is uneducated. Being proud of not : knowing how to iron (or cook) is like being proud of not knowing how : to read. what the hell is a collared shirt? -- david reuteler |
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(William Paling) wrote in message . com... Does anyone know where you can buy cycling jerseys with an anti-war or anti-Bush theme? No, but I know where you can get some war-mongering jerseys. Peace is overrated. Yeah, name one great thing or idea to come from Switzerland... Matt O. |
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-- "Davide Tosi" wrote in message ... (William Paling) wrote: Does anyone know where you can buy cycling jerseys with an anti-war or anti-Bush theme? You better buy a rope and hang yourself. And remember, in Europe, where cycling is born, this is *THE* right wing sport. Dear Wacko - Most sportsmen I know believe politics and sport should be kept separate. |
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Matt O'Toole wrote: Yeah, name one great thing or idea to come from Switzerland... Chocolate? -- Mike Iglesias Email: University of California, Irvine phone: 949-824-6926 Network & Academic Computing Services FAX: 949-824-2069 |
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David Reuteler scribbled on a scrap of paper:
In rec.bicycles.misc Matt O'Toole wrote: Yeah, name one great thing or idea to come from Switzerland... well, me in part. and those .. well, umm, .... errr. well, that's one. Chocolate |
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Paladin wrote in message ...
William Paling wrote: Does anyone know where you can buy cycling jerseys with an anti-war or anti-Bush theme? But don't forget, boys and girls, "Peace follows Victory." If you are Germany or Japan, peace also follows defeat. Appeasement or accomodation of evil is not peace, it is usually just cowardice. Tell that to Rummy, Reagan and Bush the Elder, who all "looked the other way" when Saddam was our pal. Claiming the moral high ground is tough when your Enemy No. 1 was your pal 14 years ago, just because his neighbor was Enemy No. 2 at the time. This kind of moral relativism is one of the big problems I have with Bush apologists. The others, in no particular order: "If you're not behind Bush 100%, you're a traitor." Sure thing, Ms. Coulter. The moving target for the rationale of changing a century of foreign policy, and providing that example for other nations to use - probably when we least like it. The use of U.N resolutions as a rationale for a "go." If the U.N. has authority (moral or real) to impose sanctions or define a nation's behavior, then that includes ALL member nations. Including the U.S. You can't just pick and choose which U.N. resolutions are convenient. The propaganda attempting to place Iraq and al Qaeda within the same sphere. The administration, and any of the war apologists, have one leg to stand on: that Iraq failed to live up to the cease-fire agreement. Period. But it seems unlikely that Congress would have green-lighted on that basis. Which is why a WMD and/or terrorist link needed to be promulgated. I had two objections to the war in the beginning: the justification, and the post-war plan. The justification, due to the policy of pre-emption. I felt that you had better have a rock-solid case, and be able to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that your actions are totally and completely justified. The post-war plan due to the likely fractioning of Iraq into religious/ethnic parts. But to listen to folks talk, that makes me a Saddam-lover and an appeaser. And immoral to boot. Heh. The way I figured it: every SAM launched was an act of war. Somehow, I think McCain would have handled it all better. Being a real vet and all. Mr. Brown, it ain't black and white. In the realm of international politics, I'm not sure it ever has been, or ever will be. To have calm, rational discussion over the din of emotional name-calling is nearly impossible in any case. I'm sorry it wasn't more flammable. Maybe next time? -- Jonesy |
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David Reuteler wrote:
In rec.bicycles.misc Corvus Corvax wrote: I'll step up to the plate on this one. Any man who doesn't know how to properly iron a collared shirt is uneducated. Being proud of not knowing how to iron (or cook) is like being proud of not knowing how to read. what the hell is a collared shirt? It's what the poor dial-up users wear. Bill "often with name stitched on pocket" S. |
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