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Old November 1st 17, 03:05 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Tuesday, October 31, 2017 at 9:46:08 PM UTC-7, Tim McNamara wrote:
On Wed, 01 Nov 2017 10:11:44 +0700, John B wrote:

Even Muslims hate bicycles:


Everybody hates bicycles, it is one of the few things that unites the
world. Oh, sure, people *say* they like bikes... until said bike is
being ridden on a road and holds them up for 3.1 seconds.

Making light of a tragedy I should not be taken as. That's not the
intent. It was a horrific incident. At this point we don't really know
if he is a terrorist or a nut, but that doesn't make the slightest
different to the victims and their families. Deep condolences to the
loved ones of the victims and best wishes for the best possible recovery
for the injured.

There are too many ways in the world to get hurt or killed without
people doing it deliberately.


Tim, the group here doesn't understand sarcasm. I've had to talk to you about that before.
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Old November 1st 17, 08:14 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Old November 1st 17, 08:33 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Reading al-Qtub (much like George Lincoln Rockwell or Mao or
Karl Marx) makes one apprehensive of the readers who believe this crap. Scary stuff only in that not everyone laughs out
loud while reading it.

)))))))))))))))

this is my mommy this is my kitty cat this is godhead that is a Jew Allah is...

man writes like a 3rd grade imbecile cooking a goat at the tail rear of a jet transport

https://theauthenticbase.wordpress.c...m-sayyid-qutb/
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Old November 1st 17, 10:35 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Per John B.:
The Bangkok Post has it that "The attacker was taken into custody
after he was shot in the stomach by a New York City policeman, and
neutralised".


It's encouraging that the NY cops, at least, have caught on the idea of
taking these guys alive so they can be "Debriefed" instead of blowing
them to smithereens on the spot.

I guess it's all money in the pocket for the media people, but if I had
my druthers, the story would be "Another nutcase kills a bunch of
people" and leave it at that until some group/plot emerges.
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Old November 1st 17, 11:53 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 9:35:52 PM UTC, (PeteCresswell) wrote:

my druthers, the story would be "Another nutcase kills a bunch of
people" and leave it at that until some group/plot emerges.


Nonsense. The killer's name is Sayfullo Habibullaevic Saipov, which makes him at least a second-generation Muslim. He shouted "Allahu Akbar" as he committed his crimes, which makes him a jihadist. If that isn't enough evidence to call him a Muslim and take a 95% guess at the influences on him, what will be enough for the limp apologists of Islamic jihad? -- AJ
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Old November 2nd 17, 01:17 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Wed, 1 Nov 2017 09:31:21 -0400, Duane
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On 01/11/2017 12:30 AM, Joy Beeson wrote:

Oddly, I first read about this incident in the London Telegraph --
rather high on the page.

Exactly what the murderer thought he was doing isn't particularly
important.


On one hand I agree, it's not particularly important what he thought
he was doing. But on the other hand, this attack isn't exactly an
isolated incident.


On the world stage, perhaps not as there have been similar high profile
mass murders using motor vehicles. It's isolated in the US in terms of
its use as a terrorist tool. But there have been several incidents of
road-ragers and drunk drivers plowing into packs of bicyclists in the
past decade. Not to mention the more sporadic drunk/angry/distracted
driver striking cyclists for the past 100 years.

At this point it is still not clear to me whether this is a terrorist or
a person who is mentally ill. He seems to have been inspired by ISIS'
instructions for how to kill a lot of people using a motor vehicle,
pretty much to the letter (if you don't already know, ISIS published an
online how-to manual with pretty much a checklist)- except that his
backup weapons were a BB gun and a paintball gun. Well, perhaps the
third possible category is "idiot terrorist." I would not be surprised
if the driver turned out to be mentally ill prior to the incident.

But again none of that actually matters to the victims and their loved
ones.
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Old November 2nd 17, 02:07 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Wed, 01 Nov 2017 17:35:44 -0400, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per John B.:
The Bangkok Post has it that "The attacker was taken into custody
after he was shot in the stomach by a New York City policeman, and
neutralised".


It's encouraging that the NY cops, at least, have caught on the idea
of taking these guys alive so they can be "Debriefed" instead of
blowing them to smithereens on the spot.

I guess it's all money in the pocket for the media people, but if I
had my druthers, the story would be "Another nutcase kills a bunch of
people" and leave it at that until some group/plot emerges.


Well, we don't know yet if he is a nutcase or what. No doubt more
information will appear; who knows if he will provide anything useful
himself. He did at least leave some written notes in the truck (or at
least someone did, he seems like the most likely candidate) indicating
at least inspiration by ISIS.

Perhaps we could at least get the president to stop adding so much fuel
to the fire. Yeah, right, like that's gonna happen. He has to keep the
fires built high to distract from other things (like fleecing the middle
class to pay for the rich folks' tax cuts).
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/31/n...ck-attack.html
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Old November 2nd 17, 06:48 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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the stan is not a 'nut'



https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/31/n...ck-attack.html

Where Mr. Saipov exited the bike path at Chambers Street is another notoriously risky intersection. In June 2016, a cyclist, Olga Cook, was killed there when an allegedly intoxicated driver made a right turn from the West Side Highway, crossing the greenway. At least 17 other cyclists or pedestrians had been injured there in the preceding five years.
Daniel Flanzig, a personal injury lawyer who has handled multiple cases on behalf of bicyclists killed or injured on the bike path, including Ms. Cook’s case, said there was a clear need to make the path safer.
“Everyone’s first reaction yesterday was to have bollards put onto the bike path,” he said. “It makes sense.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/01/n...pgtype=article
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Old November 2nd 17, 11:13 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Tim McNamara wrote:
On Wed, 1 Nov 2017 09:31:21 -0400, Duane
wrote:
On 01/11/2017 12:30 AM, Joy Beeson wrote:

Oddly, I first read about this incident in the London Telegraph --
rather high on the page.

Exactly what the murderer thought he was doing isn't particularly
important.


On one hand I agree, it's not particularly important what he thought
he was doing. But on the other hand, this attack isn't exactly an
isolated incident.


On the world stage, perhaps not as there have been similar high profile
mass murders using motor vehicles. It's isolated in the US in terms of
its use as a terrorist tool. But there have been several incidents of
road-ragers and drunk drivers plowing into packs of bicyclists in the
past decade. Not to mention the more sporadic drunk/angry/distracted
driver striking cyclists for the past 100 years.

At this point it is still not clear to me whether this is a terrorist or
a person who is mentally ill. He seems to have been inspired by ISIS'
instructions for how to kill a lot of people using a motor vehicle,
pretty much to the letter (if you don't already know, ISIS published an
online how-to manual with pretty much a checklist)- except that his
backup weapons were a BB gun and a paintball gun. Well, perhaps the
third possible category is "idiot terrorist." I would not be surprised
if the driver turned out to be mentally ill prior to the incident.

But again none of that actually matters to the victims and their loved
ones.


To me the line between terrorist and mentally ill isn’t very clear.
Religious fundamentalism and insane seem to go hand in hand. Something
about murdering unarmed innocents in order to get into heaven with the
virgins...

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