Electric dangers

https://www.9news.com.au/2019/01/14/...tarts-bushfire

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- Frank Krygowski

On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 13:36:48 -0500, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

https://www.9news.com.au/2019/01/14/...tarts-bushfire

Electric bicycle fires are rare, but do happen:
https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=ebike+fire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71s8RsyZykE


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On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 13:36:48 -0500, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

https://www.9news.com.au/2019/01/14/...tarts-bushfire

I liked the part where it was said that "The motor's lithium batteries
and CO2 cartridges from its repair kit had ignited".

I suspect that the reporter might have a bit at odds with the facts at
that point.


Cheers,
John B.

On 1/14/2019 3:22 PM, John B. Slocomb wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 13:36:48 -0500, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

https://www.9news.com.au/2019/01/14/...tarts-bushfire

I liked the part where it was said that "The motor's lithium batteries
and CO2 cartridges from its repair kit had ignited".

I suspect that the reporter might have a bit at odds with the facts at
that point.

I noticed that too; I think the intent was "batteries ignited and CO2
cartridges /exploded/," which fits the later text and makes sense in
context. Then an editor caught hold of it.

Mark J.

On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 17:14:43 -0800, "Mark J."
wrote:

On 1/14/2019 3:22 PM, John B. Slocomb wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 13:36:48 -0500, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

https://www.9news.com.au/2019/01/14/...tarts-bushfire

I liked the part where it was said that "The motor's lithium batteries
and CO2 cartridges from its repair kit had ignited".

I suspect that the reporter might have a bit at odds with the facts at
that point.

I noticed that too; I think the intent was "batteries ignited and CO2
cartridges /exploded/," which fits the later text and makes sense in
context. Then an editor caught hold of it.

Mark J.

I read the Bangkok Post's "most recent" posts which look to be the raw
text as submitted by a reporter and from time to time there are some
rather glaring errors. But realistically, one can't expect all
reporters to know all about everything.

Some years ago I wrote a weekly column for the Bangkok Post and
sometimes the size of the article had to be adjusted to fit the page,
which the sub-editor for that section took care of, which occasionally
resulted in some rather humorous wording toward the end of the article
:-)




Cheers,
John B.

On Tuesday, January 15, 2019 at 7:29:06 PM UTC-6, John B. Slocomb wrote:
But realistically, one can't expect all
reporters to know all about everything.

Cheers,
John B.

Yes. But I expect even people without a high school diploma to know CO2 does not burn, and cannot burn. Its a fire suppressant. I assume, maybe incorrectly, that anyone working at a newspaper or a reporter, to have a few years of elementary school or high school education. CO2 not burning is right up there with night is dark, winter is cold. You don't need much intelligence to know that.

On Sun, 20 Jan 2019 20:13:51 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Tuesday, January 15, 2019 at 7:29:06 PM UTC-6, John B. Slocomb wrote:
But realistically, one can't expect all
reporters to know all about everything.

Cheers,
John B.

Yes. But I expect even people without a high school diploma to know CO2 does not burn, and cannot burn. Its a fire suppressant. I assume, maybe incorrectly, that anyone working at a newspaper or a reporter, to have a few years of elementary school or high school education. CO2 not burning is right up there with night is dark, winter is cold. You don't need much intelligence to know that.

And Dihydrogen Monoxide is dangerous stuff too :-)
http://www.dhmo.org/alerts/alert022800

Sometimes referred to as DHMO is a common beverage additive:

New revelations about Dihydrogen Monoxide and its
use in the beverage industry indicate that nearly
all beverages contain some amount of the potentially
dangerous chemical compound.

A current study reveals that far from being uncommon,
Dihydrogen Monoxide is used as an additive by
every major beverage manufacturer in the world.
The study found that Dihydrogen Monoxide was never
explicitly named on any beverage label.

DHMO has been found in beer, milk, baby formula,
champagne, wine, distilled spirits, carbonated
drinks, sports drinks, and even in "pure"
bottled water.

Tom Way
Director of Research
DHMO.org - Dihydrogen Monoxide Research Division
web: http://www.dhmo.org
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Cheers,

John B.

" writes:

On Tuesday, January 15, 2019 at 7:29:06 PM UTC-6, John B. Slocomb wrote:
But realistically, one can't expect all
reporters to know all about everything.

Cheers,
John B.

Yes. But I expect even people without a high school diploma to know
CO2 does not burn, and cannot burn. Its a fire suppressant. I
assume, maybe incorrectly, that anyone working at a newspaper or a
reporter, to have a few years of elementary school or high school
education. CO2 not burning is right up there with night is dark,
winter is cold. You don't need much intelligence to know that.

CO2 can serve as an oxidizer, which might surprise even an educated
person. I'm fairly sure that if trying to use a CO2 fire extinguisher on a
lithium fire will just make it worse.

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On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 17:14:43 -0800, Mark J. wrote:

On 1/14/2019 3:22 PM, John B. Slocomb wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 13:36:48 -0500, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

https://www.9news.com.au/2019/01/14/...de-news-man-s-
electric-bike-explodes-almost-starts-bushfire

I liked the part where it was said that "The motor's lithium batteries
and CO2 cartridges from its repair kit had ignited".

I suspect that the reporter might have a bit at odds with the facts at
that point.

I noticed that too; I think the intent was "batteries ignited and CO2
cartridges /exploded/," which fits the later text and makes sense in
context. Then an editor caught hold of it.

Mark J.

ALL gas sylinders explode over here, even though they are engineered to
vent the contents at too high a pressure. IME, CO2 cartridges don't have
that enginering, so theryprobably did explode. Situated above the
flamming battery probably wasn't a good position in this case.

news18 wrote:
:On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 17:14:43 -0800, Mark J. wrote:

: On 1/14/2019 3:22 PM, John B. Slocomb wrote:
: On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 13:36:48 -0500, Frank Krygowski
: wrote:
:
: https://www.9news.com.au/2019/01/14/...de-news-man-s-
:electric-bike-explodes-almost-starts-bushfire
:
: I liked the part where it was said that "The motor's lithium batteries
: and CO2 cartridges from its repair kit had ignited".
:
: I suspect that the reporter might have a bit at odds with the facts at
: that point.
:
: I noticed that too; I think the intent was "batteries ignited and CO2
: cartridges /exploded/," which fits the later text and makes sense in
: context. Then an editor caught hold of it.
:
: Mark J.

:ALL gas sylinders explode over here, even though they are engineered to
:vent the contents at too high a pressure. IME, CO2 cartridges don't have
:that enginering, so theryprobably did explode. Situated above the
:flamming battery probably wasn't a good position in this case.

I've seen morons throw 16 g CO2 cartridges into a fire. They burst,
at the end where they're punctured by the inflator. I assume that's
intentional. They do fly a long way though....


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