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Another Big Ha Spotted!!
Spotted my second Big Ha on the sidewalk at the Tour de California
prologue in Palo Alto a few weeks ago. The owner of the first one I saw in nearby Menlo Park the year before is friends with one of the bike company owners and he tells me that they have actually sold 250 of them! I began to believe such a thing might be possible when I saw my second Big Ha in two years. After all, this a a big country! I started to feel it necessary to throw caution to the wind however, when the second owner didn't even know that his bike was not a happily known part of the recuumbent bicycle universe. Nor was he much aware of the connection between his machine and the BikeE that so many people used to love and enjoy Owner #2 found his on the web. I will admit that Owner #1's bike rode beautifully but you have to wonder about a company that is led by a lot of the same people who were at the BikeE helm when that company went out of business the way they left so many people holding the bag. Especially when one of the featured products at their web site http://www.bigha.com is a star gazing chair. They also seem to specialize in binoculars, telescopes and laser pens.... Big Ha or Big Hmmmmm? Hmmmm..... I wonder if all those once loyal BikeE dealers and fans are saving their Big Ha's for a bike that is not only overpriced for what it is but was a machine that participated in the demise of the BikE as they knew it? And/or was/is the Big Ha only so much hubris? Long Live BikeE! To see the pictures, this is also at our bent news blog http://www.bikeroute.com/Recumbents/...ex.html#000186 Perfect love drives out fear - John 4:18 Martin Krieg "Awake Again" Author 2009 w/"How America Can Bike & Grow Rich" http://www.bikeroute.com/HBGR '79 & '86 TransAmerica Bike Rides Coma, Paralysis, Clinical Death Survivor NBG Founding Director, HiWheel Cyclist |
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Another Big Ha Spotted!!
Martin Krieg wrote:
Spotted my second Big Ha on the sidewalk at the Tour de California prologue in Palo Alto a few weeks ago. The owner of the first one I saw in nearby Menlo Park the year before is friends with one of the bike company owners and he tells me that they have actually sold 250 of them! I began to believe such a thing might be possible when I saw my second Big Ha in two years. After all, this a a big country! Did this rider pay full retail price? I started to feel it necessary to throw caution to the wind however, when the second owner didn't even know that his bike was not a happily known part of the recuumbent bicycle universe. Nor was he much aware of the connection between his machine and the BikeE that so many people used to love and enjoy Owner #2 found his on the web. I will admit that Owner #1's bike rode beautifully but you have to wonder about a company that is led by a lot of the same people who were at the BikeE helm when that company went out of business the way they left so many people holding the bag. Especially when one of the featured products at their web site http://www.bigha.com is a star gazing chair. They also seem to specialize in binoculars, telescopes and laser pens.... Big Ha or Big Hmmmmm? Hmmmm..... The former owners at ATP Vision should be credited with doing things the right way at the end. I wonder if all those once loyal BikeE dealers and fans are saving their Big Ha's for a bike that is not only overpriced for what it is but was a machine that participated in the demise of the BikE as they knew it? And/or was/is the Big Ha only so much hubris? Long Live BikeE! Here is the infamous post http://groups.google.com/group/alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent/msg/2a142d0e25262302?dmode=source. -- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia The weather is here, wish you were beautiful |
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Another Big Ha Spotted!!
"Martin Krieg" wrote in message ... Spotted my second Big Ha on the sidewalk at the Tour de California prologue in Palo Alto a few weeks ago. The owner of the first one I saw in nearby Menlo Park the year before is friends with one of the bike company owners and he tells me that they have actually sold 250 of them! I began to believe such a thing might be possible when I saw my second Big Ha in two years. After all, this a a big country! I started to feel it necessary to throw caution to the wind however, when the second owner didn't even know that his bike was not a happily known part of the recuumbent bicycle universe. Nor was he much aware of the connection between his machine and the BikeE that so many people used to love and enjoy Owner #2 found his on the web. I will admit that Owner #1's bike rode beautifully but you have to wonder about a company that is led by a lot of the same people who were at the BikeE helm when that company went out of business the way they left so many people holding the bag. Especially when one of the featured products at their web site http://www.bigha.com is a star gazing chair. They also seem to specialize in binoculars, telescopes and laser pens.... Big Ha or Big Hmmmmm? Hmmmm..... I wonder if all those once loyal BikeE dealers and fans are saving their Big Ha's for a bike that is not only overpriced for what it is but was a machine that participated in the demise of the BikE as they knew it? And/or was/is the Big Ha only so much hubris? Long Live BikeE! To see the pictures, this is also at our bent news blog http://www.bikeroute.com/Recumbents/...ex.html#000186 I am surprised that the BigHa is still around after all these years. I see that it is still priced in the stratosphere. Leonard L. Love, where are you now that you are needed here once again? Other than the insane price, the main problem I have with this bike is the crank in front of the fork. It should be in back of the fork of course and it could still be fairly compact. On the whole I rather like the compact design for a recumbent and I think it best suits most folks who would benefit from a recumbent. Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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Another Big Ha Spotted!!
On Mar 3, 10:34*pm, Tom Sherman
wrote: Martin Krieg wrote: Spotted my second Big Ha on the sidewalk at the Tour de California prologue in Palo Alto a few weeks ago. The owner of the first one I saw in nearby Menlo Park the year before is friends with one of the bike company owners and he tells me that they have actually sold 250 of them! I began to believe such a thing might be possible when I saw my second Big Ha in two years. After all, this a a big country! Did this rider pay full retail price? I started to feel it necessary to throw caution to the wind however, when the second owner didn't even know that his bike was not a happily known part of the recuumbent bicycle universe. Nor was he much aware of the connection between his machine and the BikeE that so many people used to love and enjoy Owner #2 found his on the web. I will admit that Owner #1's bike rode beautifully but you have to wonder about a company that is led by a lot of the same people who were at the BikeE helm when that company went out of business the way they left so many people holding the bag. Especially when one of the featured products at their web sitehttp://www.bigha.comis a star gazing chair. They also seem to specialize in binoculars, telescopes and laser pens.... Big Ha or Big Hmmmmm? Hmmmm..... The former owners at ATP Vision should be credited with doing things the right way at the end. I wonder if all those once loyal BikeE dealers and fans are saving their Big Ha's for a bike that is not only overpriced for what it is but was a machine that participated in the demise of the BikE as they knew it? And/or was/is the Big Ha only so much hubris? Long Live BikeE! Here is the infamous post http://groups.google.com/group/alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent/msg/2a142d0..... -- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia The weather is here, wish you were beautiful http://groups.google.com/group/alt.r...nt/msg/2a142d0 LOL!!! ....It's only a flesh wound....... The Big Ha is a tough sell. Here is a low performance bike that weighs 50 lbs and cost a fortune. I just don't get it, but 250 customers appear to. Rick |
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Another Big Ha Spotted!!
"Tom Sherman" wrote
The former owners at ATP Vision should be credited with doing things the right way at the end. Yes, ethical conduct . [BikeE's apparent less so] Here is the infamous post http://groups.google.com/group/alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent/msg/2a142d0e25262302?dmode=source. As a privately-held corporation, it is entirely possible that many of the final days' announcements about BikeE were earnestly made by the individuals involved. They may have been hung out to dry as much as some dealers and customers. I had email exchanges with Chad regarding the on-again-off-again recommendation by BikeE for BOB trailers. Recall the BikeE/BOB wobble discussions? I never really got a straight answer to my question, was the change to not recommending single-wheeled trailers with rear suspension BikeEs due to the wobble issue or were there structural concerns. It's not surprising that he couldn't/wouldn't answer. Any answer could create a potential tort minefield. He was helpful, though. A few years after BikeE went under, a LBS still had several of them on the showroom floor marked with full MRSP! Our scout troop had a biking campout and I took along my BikeE for one of the other adult advisors to ride on a ten-mile trail ride. He liked the bike a lot and asked me where he could get one. I told him BikeE was out of business but that I had seen NOS bikes at a local shop. I suggested he could get a good deal by pointing out 1) how long they had had those bikes in inventory [more than three years], 2) that the manufacturer was out of business and 3) that any specialized parts to repair those bikes were never going to be available. It worked. He bought two BikeEs for a pretty good price. BikeE failed as a company probably due to many factors, the recalls, the shift to overseas-made frames, marketing, competition, poor management, etc... Their Bikes from around 1998 were well made and durable, however. No, mine is not for sale. Jon |
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Another Big Ha Spotted!!
Hmmmm, well at about $100 a pound I think I know whos having the big Ha.
~50lbs @ $4600. "Martin Krieg" wrote in message ... Spotted my second Big Ha on the sidewalk at the Tour de California prologue in Palo Alto a few weeks ago. The owner of the first one I saw in nearby Menlo Park the year before is friends with one of the bike company owners and he tells me that they have actually sold 250 of them! I began to believe such a thing might be possible when I saw my second Big Ha in two years. After all, this a a big country! I started to feel it necessary to throw caution to the wind however, when the second owner didn't even know that his bike was not a happily known part of the recuumbent bicycle universe. Nor was he much aware of the connection between his machine and the BikeE that so many people used to love and enjoy Owner #2 found his on the web. I will admit that Owner #1's bike rode beautifully but you have to wonder about a company that is led by a lot of the same people who were at the BikeE helm when that company went out of business the way they left so many people holding the bag. Especially when one of the featured products at their web site http://www.bigha.com is a star gazing chair. They also seem to specialize in binoculars, telescopes and laser pens.... Big Ha or Big Hmmmmm? Hmmmm..... I wonder if all those once loyal BikeE dealers and fans are saving their Big Ha's for a bike that is not only overpriced for what it is but was a machine that participated in the demise of the BikE as they knew it? And/or was/is the Big Ha only so much hubris? Long Live BikeE! To see the pictures, this is also at our bent news blog http://www.bikeroute.com/Recumbents/...ex.html#000186 Perfect love drives out fear - John 4:18 Martin Krieg "Awake Again" Author 2009 w/"How America Can Bike & Grow Rich" http://www.bikeroute.com/HBGR '79 & '86 TransAmerica Bike Rides Coma, Paralysis, Clinical Death Survivor NBG Founding Director, HiWheel Cyclist |
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