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4x4 choices for bikes and surf fishing... and family
we're looking for a second car, and i'd like to get something that can
go onto the beaches here in nc (and elsewhere). i'm a longtime pier fisher, but will be new to the beach and surf. it *is* necessary to get a good 4x4 as a fisherman in nc, isn't it? i've heard there are good parks to go camping at also, where you need 4x4 capability? we also need the car to be decent or good on the road, for normal use. we have a new baby... also, my s.o. is only 5'1" tall, while i'm 6' so i don't want her to feel the truck is too high (getting in) or too big (reaching the trunk, etc). we're looking at the MAZDA TRIBUTE. We know it drives well on the road... is the 4 wheel drive V6 reasonable for the beach?? Enough power? Won't get stuck? I've heard compact suv's like the CRV are not good that way.. any real differences on the FORD ESCAPE? how is the Jeep liberty? Toyota 4runner tops the charts but $$... would have to get a *more* used one. What do you all drive on the beach for fishing/camping/biking? i guess ideally you want a truck truck for the beach, which probably doesn't ride that well on the road, and a car car for everyday.... but what's the best of both worlds, or the best compromise?... we have a budget too to consider and we'd like to stay in the 15-22K range for a new, or 1-2 year old, 20-30K miles type of bracket. also, anyone know if a slim thule or other cargo box plus a couple mountain bike trays would fit on top of the Mazda tribute? can you email replies to me, if you also post? thx in advance james -- rec.bicycles.off-road is moderated by volunteers. To find help solving posting problems, or contact the moderators, please see http://rbor.org/ Please read the charter before posting: http://rbor.org/rbor_charter.txt |
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"James Y. Yang" wrote in message om... we're looking for a second car, and i'd like to get something that can go onto the beaches here in nc (and elsewhere). i'm a longtime pier fisher, but will be new to the beach and surf. it *is* necessary to get a good 4x4 as a fisherman in nc, isn't it? i've heard there are good parks to go camping at also, where you need 4x4 capability? we also need the car to be decent or good on the road, for normal use. we have a new baby... also, my s.o. is only 5'1" tall, while i'm 6' so i don't want her to feel the truck is too high (getting in) or too big (reaching the trunk, etc). we're looking at the MAZDA TRIBUTE. We know it drives well on the road... is the 4 wheel drive V6 reasonable for the beach?? Enough power? Won't get stuck? I've heard compact suv's like the CRV are not good that way.. any real differences on the FORD ESCAPE? how is the Jeep liberty? Toyota 4runner tops the charts but $$... would have to get a *more* used one. What do you all drive on the beach for fishing/camping/biking? i guess ideally you want a truck truck for the beach, which probably doesn't ride that well on the road, and a car car for everyday.... but what's the best of both worlds, or the best compromise?... we have a budget too to consider and we'd like to stay in the 15-22K range for a new, or 1-2 year old, 20-30K miles type of bracket. also, anyone know if a slim thule or other cargo box plus a couple mountain bike trays would fit on top of the Mazda tribute? can you email replies to me, if you also post? thx in advance james -- rec.bicycles.off-road is moderated by volunteers. To find help solving posting problems, or contact the moderators, please see http://rbor.org/ Please read the charter before posting: http://rbor.org/rbor_charter.txt You might want to look at the Suzuki XL-7 (4 wheel drive version). You could get the third row seat version and still stay close to the upper limit of your price range. Even an '02 model would be good, and most (those sold after August last year) have a transferable 7 year 100,000 mile powertrain warranty. It might be worth looking at. -- rec.bicycles.off-road is moderated by volunteers. To find help solving posting problems, or contact the moderators, please see http://rbor.org/ Please read the charter before posting: http://rbor.org/rbor_charter.txt |
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On 16 Aug 2003 21:45:01 GMT, "Clay-in-Ky" wrote:
"James Y. Yang" wrote in message . com... we're looking for a second car, and i'd like to get something that can go onto the beaches here in nc (and elsewhere). i'm a longtime pier fisher, but will be new to the beach and surf. it *is* necessary to get a good 4x4 as a fisherman in nc, isn't it? i've heard there are good parks to go camping at also, where you need 4x4 capability? Check out the Subaru Outback. Way more interior space than many averaged sized SUV's. It's also much easier to get bikes up on the roof. Barry -- rec.bicycles.off-road is moderated by volunteers. To find help solving posting problems, or contact the moderators, please see http://rbor.org/ Please read the charter before posting: http://rbor.org/rbor_charter.txt |
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Is it necessary to post again? Well, I'll reply to a couple other points... On 16 Aug 2003 15:55:31 GMT, James Y. Yang wrote: we're looking for a second car, and i'd like to get something that can go onto the beaches here in nc (and elsewhere). i'm a longtime pier fisher, but will be new to the beach and surf. it *is* necessary to get a good 4x4 as a fisherman in nc, isn't it? i've heard there are Only if you want one. good parks to go camping at also, where you need 4x4 capability? I've never seen a campground or park that requires a real 4x4 to get to the site. The worst I've seen is the Winterhawk bluegrass festival, which requires you to get up a big, steep hill; if it's muddy, 2-wheel drive vehicles have a tough time. Some campgrounds do have rather rough paths, but all that's required is a little extra ground clearance. we also need the car to be decent or good on the road, for normal use. This is when you'll use it most, on the road. You should probably make that a priority. road... is the 4 wheel drive V6 reasonable for the beach?? Enough power? Won't get stuck? I've heard compact suv's like the CRV are not good that way.. Compact SUVs, as well as larger ones built on a car platform, are not off-road vehicles, no matter what the manufacturer claims. They can handle grass, the path to the campground, etc; but tough stuff like deep in the woods or in deep sand, you need quite the ballsy off-road pickup (or SUV built on a pickup truck platform). Do you expect to drive on the beach? I've only ever seen vehicles allowed on the beach on TV shows like Baywatch; nowhere I've been, have I seen vehicles permitted to drive onto the sand, or anywhere out of the parking lot. any real differences on the FORD ESCAPE? The Ford Escape is a car-based SUV. It will do anything spectacular. It probably gives a pretty good ride on the road. how is the Jeep liberty? Reportedly, the Liberty is okay. Never driven one. What do you all drive on the beach for fishing/camping/biking? i guess I don't drive anything on the beach. For fishing/camping/biking, I drove a 1997 Pontiac Grand Am for 5 years; a 1987 Cadillac Sedan Deville for a couple years before that; and now I drive a full size pickup, specifically, a 2002 GMC Sierra 4x4, extended cab, etc. The Caddy and the Pontiac did fine for all sorts of off-road situations, although I did bend a wheel by going too fast in the Caddy on a very rough trail. People who think a low-slung, 2wd car can't go off road, either have never done it, or are unskilled off-road drivers. They can't do really gnarly off road stuff; but car-based SUVs can't either, except that they can deal with a little bit slipperier conditions and a little bit higher clearance issues. ideally you want a truck truck for the beach, which probably doesn't ride that well on the road, and a car car for everyday.... but what's the best of both worlds, or the best compromise?... we have a budget My GMC Sierra, which does NOT have any sort of off-road package, and has lame-looking road tires, is the most comfortable vehicle I've ever driven. The tires, which look lame, provide ample grip in all sorts of snow, mud, etc. also, anyone know if a slim thule or other cargo box plus a couple mountain bike trays would fit on top of the Mazda tribute? I can't imagine why not. can you email replies to me, if you also post? thx in advance james -- Rick Onanian -- rec.bicycles.off-road is moderated by volunteers. To find help solving posting problems, or contact the moderators, please see http://rbor.org/ Please read the charter before posting: http://rbor.org/rbor_charter.txt |
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James,
If I had the money to blow on a new car, I'd probably buy a Honda Element. This seems to meet all of your criteria, and is available in four wheel drive. We (wife and I) have considered buying one but have decided to wait a couple of years for a Hybrid gasoline/ electric vehicle. (Toyota Highlander, Ford Escape, and Saturn VUE hybrids will all available within the next couple of years, as will a Toyota Sienna Hybrid AWD (a real wallet-buster, no doubt.) Until then, we're still cramming all of our stuff into our Saturn Wagon! The bikes go on a receiver hitch rack in the back. Dave Wissenbach "James Y. Yang" wrote in message om... we're looking for a second car, and i'd like to get something that can go onto the beaches here in nc (and elsewhere). i'm a longtime pier fisher, but will be new to the beach and surf. it *is* necessary to get a good 4x4 as a fisherman in nc, isn't it? i've heard there are good parks to go camping at also, where you need 4x4 capability? we also need the car to be decent or good on the road, for normal use. we have a new baby... also, my s.o. is only 5'1" tall, while i'm 6' so i don't want her to feel the truck is too high (getting in) or too big (reaching the trunk, etc). we're looking at the MAZDA TRIBUTE. We know it drives well on the road... is the 4 wheel drive V6 reasonable for the beach?? Enough power? Won't get stuck? I've heard compact suv's like the CRV are not good that way.. any real differences on the FORD ESCAPE? how is the Jeep liberty? Toyota 4runner tops the charts but $$... would have to get a *more* used one. What do you all drive on the beach for fishing/camping/biking? i guess ideally you want a truck truck for the beach, which probably doesn't ride that well on the road, and a car car for everyday.... but what's the best of both worlds, or the best compromise?... we have a budget too to consider and we'd like to stay in the 15-22K range for a new, or 1-2 year old, 20-30K miles type of bracket. also, anyone know if a slim thule or other cargo box plus a couple mountain bike trays would fit on top of the Mazda tribute? can you email replies to me, if you also post? thx in advance james -- rec.bicycles.off-road is moderated by volunteers. To find help solving posting problems, or contact the moderators, please see http://rbor.org/ Please read the charter before posting: http://rbor.org/rbor_charter.txt -- rec.bicycles.off-road is moderated by volunteers. To find help solving posting problems, or contact the moderators, please see http://rbor.org/ Please read the charter before posting: http://rbor.org/rbor_charter.txt |
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"B a r r y B u r k e J r ." wrote in message . ..
Check out the Subaru Outback. Way more interior space than many averaged sized SUV's. It's also much easier to get bikes up on the roof. I like Outbacks, but at 6'3" (not overly tall) I found they have a serious lack of legroom. I don't see how you can say they have way more interior space than an average SUV, as my smallish 2-door Explorer is roomier. Maybe more cargo space than a CRV or RAV 4, but those are quite a bit smaller than average size and still have more legroom. Nice vehicles though if you can fit in them. -- rec.bicycles.off-road is moderated by volunteers. To find help solving posting problems, or contact the moderators, please see http://rbor.org/ Please read the charter before posting: http://rbor.org/rbor_charter.txt |
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"B a r r y B u r k e J r ." wrote in message ... On 16 Aug 2003 21:45:01 GMT, "Clay-in-Ky" wrote: "James Y. Yang" wrote in message . com... we're looking for a second car, and i'd like to get something that can go onto the beaches here in nc (and elsewhere). i'm a longtime pier fisher, but will be new to the beach and surf. it *is* necessary to get a good 4x4 as a fisherman in nc, isn't it? i've heard there are good parks to go camping at also, where you need 4x4 capability? Check out the Subaru Outback. Way more interior space than many averaged sized SUV's. It's also much easier to get bikes up on the roof. Outback simply SUCK for beach riding. I almost lost mine in Kauai. Yes, I took the air down to 20psi and all that funky stuff. It doesn't have a real 4x4 and only the wheel with least resistance spins. I know, I have a lot of scars to prove it - trying to get it out. A 4 runner towed me out - for a case of beer. -- rec.bicycles.off-road is moderated by volunteers. To find help solving posting problems, or contact the moderators, please see http://rbor.org/ Please read the charter before posting: http://rbor.org/rbor_charter.txt |
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Outback simply SUCK for beach riding. I almost lost mine in Kauai. Yes, I took the air down to 20psi and all that funky stuff. It doesn't have a real 4x4 and only the wheel with least resistance spins. I know, I have a lot of scars to prove it - trying to get it out. A 4 runner towed me out - for a case of beer. 20 PSI is generally too high. Try 15 or even 10 PSI next time and you can probably go anywhere. -- rec.bicycles.off-road is moderated by volunteers. To find help solving posting problems, or contact the moderators, please see http://rbor.org/ Please read the charter before posting: http://rbor.org/rbor_charter.txt |
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On 19 Aug 2003 02:05:01 GMT, Dan J.S. wrote:
Outback simply SUCK for beach riding. I almost lost mine in Kauai. Yes, I took the air down to 20psi and all that funky stuff. It doesn't have a real 4x4 and only the wheel with least resistance spins. I know, I have a lot I thought those fancy modern "All Wheel Drive" systems are supposed to power the wheels that DO get traction. I guess I'll stick with my old assumption, that AWD is good for cars on less-than-perfect roads / weather, and not much else. Maybe different AWD systems from different manufacturers are better or worse. -- Rick Onanian -- rec.bicycles.off-road is moderated by volunteers. To find help solving posting problems, or contact the moderators, please see http://rbor.org/ Please read the charter before posting: http://rbor.org/rbor_charter.txt |
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