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Chain cover that can be left on bike when riding
I am having to clean my chain and sprockets at least every 3 weeks.
That's a lot of work. Does someone make a chain cover that can be used while riding? Thanks, Andy |
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Chain cover that can be left on bike when riding
On 4/17/2020 4:35 PM, Andy wrote:
I am having to clean my chain and sprockets at least every 3 weeks. That's a lot of work. Does someone make a chain cover that can be used while riding? Thanks, Andy Inherently not for a derailleur system. For single speed or gearbox, sorta yes, depending. Some frames more than others. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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Chain cover that can be left on bike when riding
On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 10:35:55 PM UTC+1, Andy wrote:
I am having to clean my chain and sprockets at least every 3 weeks. That's a lot of work. Does someone make a chain cover that can be used while riding? Thanks, Andy Cyclists privileged to ride on hub gears can use the Hebie Chainglider, which is a hard rubber complete chain enclosure. I've worked out a way to run KMC chains on their factory lube inside the Chainglider for their entire life, so I never clean or lube the chains on my bikes. See http://thorncyclesforum.co.uk/index....42349#msg42349 for a description of my two initial tests, and passim on that forum for how I arrived at the Chainglider as the best chaincase available and the only one I can responsibly recommend. You won't get much on chain cases on a neanderthal retro forum like RBT, even though many of the active contributors are cycle commuters, who one would think would be keen on hub gears and consequently my experiments with chain cases. Try a forum with a preponderance of commuters or bicycle tourists, and you'll be overwhelmed with informed responses. Andre Jute As Master Muzi says, hub gears are essential with a chaincase. |
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Chain cover that can be left on bike when riding
On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 5:40:26 PM UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:
On 4/17/2020 4:35 PM, Andy wrote: Does someone make a chain cover that can be used while riding? For single speed or gearbox, sorta yes, depending. Some frames more than others. Andrew Muzi My Tern Verge S11i came with a chain cover that was a black, corrugated tube slit along one side that fit over, and rotated with, the chain. I removed it after 5 minutes of riding because it was noisy. Also, I expected that any rain that hit it would collect and damage the chain. 7,000 miles and a couple chains later, I don't regret what I did. |
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Chain cover that can be left on bike when riding
On 4/17/2020 9:30 PM, Steve Weeks wrote:
On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 5:40:26 PM UTC-5, AMuzi wrote: On 4/17/2020 4:35 PM, Andy wrote: Does someone make a chain cover that can be used while riding? For single speed or gearbox, sorta yes, depending. Some frames more than others. Andrew Muzi My Tern Verge S11i came with a chain cover that was a black, corrugated tube slit along one side that fit over, and rotated with, the chain. I removed it after 5 minutes of riding because it was noisy. Also, I expected that any rain that hit it would collect and damage the chain. 7,000 miles and a couple chains later, I don't regret what I did. A distributor I once part owned used to sell that cover to shops in big spools. It's a wiring cover from the automotive industry and back in the 1970s came in bright colors besides black. Cute, but doesn't help much and, as you note, noisy. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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On Saturday, April 18, 2020 at 3:39:58 AM UTC+1, AMuzi wrote:
On 4/17/2020 9:30 PM, Steve Weeks wrote: On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 5:40:26 PM UTC-5, AMuzi wrote: On 4/17/2020 4:35 PM, Andy wrote: Does someone make a chain cover that can be used while riding? For single speed or gearbox, sorta yes, depending. Some frames more than others. Andrew Muzi My Tern Verge S11i came with a chain cover that was a black, corrugated tube slit along one side that fit over, and rotated with, the chain. I removed it after 5 minutes of riding because it was noisy. Also, I expected that any rain that hit it would collect and damage the chain. 7,000 miles and a couple chains later, I don't regret what I did. A distributor I once part owned used to sell that cover to shops in big spools. It's a wiring cover from the automotive industry and back in the 1970s came in bright colors besides black. Cute, but doesn't help much and, as you note, noisy. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 In theory at least, the split wire-bundle cover adapted to bicycle change covering that Steve refers to could be used even on derailleur bikes. But, since it doesn't work in the first instance on hub gear bikes, dumping dirty oil and cold water on the cyclist's trousers and legs if he cycles sans culotte, I don't see much point. A few years ago some wide boy in wider braces made a serious attempt to sell it to German cyclists as the latest and the greatest, a cheaper version of Hebie's Chainglider (which is in a different league altogether, and works brilliantly if correctly fitted); I recollect one German engineer forgetting his dignity to the extent of swearing in the public prints at the vendor after getting a load of dirty oil and cold water dumped on his ankles. Andre Jute Dirty oil and cold water must be the nastiest mix of liquids known to man -- next to the cocktail-hour martini. |
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Chain cover that can be left on bike when riding
On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 5:15:33 PM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 10:35:55 PM UTC+1, Andy wrote: I am having to clean my chain and sprockets at least every 3 weeks. That's a lot of work. Does someone make a chain cover that can be used while riding? Thanks, Andy Cyclists privileged to ride on hub gears can use the Hebie Chainglider, which is a hard rubber complete chain enclosure. I've worked out a way to run KMC chains on their factory lube inside the Chainglider for their entire life, so I never clean or lube the chains on my bikes. See http://thorncyclesforum.co.uk/index....42349#msg42349 for a description of my two initial tests, and passim on that forum for how I arrived at the Chainglider as the best chaincase available and the only one I can responsibly recommend. You won't get much on chain cases on a neanderthal retro forum like RBT, even though many of the active contributors are cycle commuters, who one would think would be keen on hub gears and consequently my experiments with chain cases. Try a forum with a preponderance of commuters or bicycle tourists, and you'll be overwhelmed with informed responses. Andre Jute As Master Muzi says, hub gears are essential with a chaincase. Gee, I've been commuting for 50 years and toured all over the place and never had a chainguard -- except on my Schwinn Racer. https://bikehistory.org/catalogs/images/1965-racer.jpg I think one would have to go the fiets newsgroup of the Flying Pidgeon newsgroup to get a serious discussion of chainguards and chaincases. -- Jay Beattie. |
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Chain cover that can be left on bike when riding
jbeattie wrote:
On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 5:15:33 PM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote: On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 10:35:55 PM UTC+1, Andy wrote: I am having to clean my chain and sprockets at least every 3 weeks. That's a lot of work. Does someone make a chain cover that can be used while riding? It depends on the gear design. And the bike's visual appearance will generally take a real hit after fitting anything with a convex top line like this: https://www.ebay.fr/itm//221652416453 Cyclists privileged to ride on hub gears can use the Hebie Chainglider, which is a hard rubber complete chain enclosure. I've worked out a way to run KMC chains on their factory lube inside the Chainglider for their entire life, so I never clean or lube the chains on my bikes. See http://thorncyclesforum.co.uk/index....42349#msg42349 for a description of my two initial tests, and passim on that forum for how I arrived at the Chainglider as the best chaincase available and the only one I can responsibly recommend. You won't get much on chain cases on a neanderthal retro forum like RBT, even though many of the active contributors are cycle commuters, who one would think would be keen on hub gears and consequently my experiments with chain cases. Try a forum with a preponderance of commuters or bicycle tourists, and you'll be overwhelmed with informed responses. Gee, I've been commuting for 50 years and toured all over the place and never had a chainguard -- except on my Schwinn Racer. https://bikehistory.org/catalogs/images/1965-racer.jpg Is that you on the left, Jay? Interesting to see Le President Macron played tennis before he discovered the convenience of heteronormative gerontophilia. I think one would have to go the fiets newsgroup of the Flying Pidgeon newsgroup to get a serious discussion of chainguards and chaincases. I think the trajectories of roadspray are just be too simple to observe (except for Schwinn's stylists) to hold long discussions. So which sensibly lazy "low-maintenance" commuter would try to convert ardently chain-cleaning, racer Portlandians who implicitly confess to enjoying wet showers on their chains and feet? ;-) |
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On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 7:15:33 PM UTC-5, Andre Jute wrote:
On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 10:35:55 PM UTC+1, Andy wrote: I am having to clean my chain and sprockets at least every 3 weeks. That's a lot of work. Does someone make a chain cover that can be used while riding? Thanks, Andy Cyclists privileged to ride on hub gears can use the Hebie Chainglider, which is a hard rubber complete chain enclosure. I've worked out a way to run KMC chains on their factory lube inside the Chainglider for their entire life, so I never clean or lube the chains on my bikes. See http://thorncyclesforum.co.uk/index....42349#msg42349 for a description of my two initial tests, and passim on that forum for how I arrived at the Chainglider as the best chaincase available and the only one I can responsibly recommend. You won't get much on chain cases on a neanderthal retro forum like RBT, even though many of the active contributors are cycle commuters, who one would think would be keen on hub gears and consequently my experiments with chain cases. Try a forum with a preponderance of commuters or bicycle tourists, and you'll be overwhelmed with informed responses. Andre Jute As Master Muzi says, hub gears are essential with a chaincase. Thanks, Andy |
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Chain cover that can be left on bike when riding
On 4/17/2020 5:35 PM, Andy wrote:
I am having to clean my chain and sprockets at least every 3 weeks. That's a lot of work. Does someone make a chain cover that can be used while riding? Chain cases can be useful if you're riding a single speed or a bike with a hub gear, but even then are not necessary. I have a three speed I use for quick, short trips. It has no chain case and no need of one. I haven't cleaned the chain in at least two years. If you want a clean chain, don't lubricated it with liquid. Any oil you use will remain wet on the chain, and road grit thrown up by the tires will stick to the oil and turn into a black mess. Several of us here instead lubricate our chains with a wax mixture - that is, paraffin wax with a small amount of oil blended in. It stays dry, keeps the chain clean, keeps the cogs and chainstays clean, makes the chain and cogs last far longer, causes less friction drag than oil, and requires re-application less often. The disadvantage is that the wax mix and chain must be heated to apply it. There is a way to do that quickly without removing the chain from the bike. Let me know if you want the procedure. (There are some wax-in-solvent concoctions that some people like. It's been so long since I tried one that I'll let others comment on them.) Also consider fitting fenders to the bike. I think fenders reduce the volume of road grit thrown onto the chain, and so help keep it a bit cleaner. They certainly keep the bike cleaner, and of course make it far more comfortable and far less messy to ride when roads are wet. -- - Frank Krygowski |
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