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Old December 30th 15, 06:57 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Alycidon
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QUOTE:
"In June 2014, Transport for London (TfL) bowed to pressure from organisations including CTC and RoadPeace to ask businesses belonging to the Fleet Operators Recognition Scheme (FORS) to remove 'Cyclists Stay Back' stickers - described as "offensive" by the London Cycling Campaign - from their vehicles.

The wording on the HSS Hire stickers differed, and is similar to that used on a number of vehicles including some construction lorries, buses, and even vans used to transport prisoners.

It said: "Cyclists. Beware of passing this vehicle on the inside."

They are sold by organisations including the Road Haulage Association and seem primarily intended - although without saying so explicitly - to warn cyclists of large vehicles' blind spots.

Their use on smaller vehicles has attracted criticism on social media in the past, with some maintaining that they seek to shift the blame in the event of a collision onto the rider."

http://road.cc/content/news/173985-n...ckers-its-cars
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Old December 30th 15, 10:35 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
jnugent
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On 30/12/2015 18:57, Alycidon wrote:

QUOTE:
"In June 2014, Transport for London (TfL) bowed to pressure from organisations including CTC and RoadPeace to ask businesses belonging to the Fleet Operators Recognition Scheme (FORS) to remove 'Cyclists Stay Back' stickers - described as "offensive" by the London Cycling Campaign - from their vehicles.
The wording on the HSS Hire stickers differed, and is similar to that used on a number of vehicles including some construction lorries, buses, and even vans used to transport prisoners.
It said: "Cyclists. Beware of passing this vehicle on the inside."
They are sold by organisations including the Road Haulage Association and seem primarily intended - although without saying so explicitly - to warn cyclists of large vehicles' blind spots.
Their use on smaller vehicles has attracted criticism on social media in the past, with some maintaining that they seek to shift the blame in the event of a collision onto the rider."
http://road.cc/content/news/173985-n...ckers-its-cars


What do they mean, "shift"?

Overtaking a large vehicle on the inside is foolhardy.
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Old December 31st 15, 11:45 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Judith[_4_]
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On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 22:35:17 +0000, JNugent wrote:

On 30/12/2015 18:57, Alycidon wrote:

QUOTE:
"In June 2014, Transport for London (TfL) bowed to pressure from organisations including CTC and RoadPeace to ask businesses belonging to the Fleet Operators Recognition Scheme (FORS) to remove 'Cyclists Stay Back' stickers - described as "offensive" by the London Cycling Campaign - from their vehicles.
The wording on the HSS Hire stickers differed, and is similar to that used on a number of vehicles including some construction lorries, buses, and even vans used to transport prisoners.
It said: "Cyclists. Beware of passing this vehicle on the inside."
They are sold by organisations including the Road Haulage Association and seem primarily intended - although without saying so explicitly - to warn cyclists of large vehicles' blind spots.
Their use on smaller vehicles has attracted criticism on social media in the past, with some maintaining that they seek to shift the blame in the event of a collision onto the rider."
http://road.cc/content/news/173985-n...ckers-its-cars


What do they mean, "shift"?

Overtaking a large vehicle on the inside is foolhardy.



That may be why the tem suicyclist seems to be gaining credence.

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Old January 2nd 16, 02:37 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Peter Parry
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On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 10:57:36 -0800 (PST), Alycidon
wrote:

stickers - described as "offensive" by the London Cycling Campaign


Presumably this is a continuation of the glorious history of 30 years
of campaigning by the CTC against any legislative requirement for
pushbikes to carry either a red light or a rear reflector?

The "right" of pushbike riders to perambulate at night in the rain
wearing matt black clothing and carrying neither lights nor reflectors
was most precious to the CTC and seems to remain so.

Whatever happened to the far more graphic sticker which said
Undertaker, Overtaker ?

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Old January 2nd 16, 03:11 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Alycidon
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On Saturday, 2 January 2016 14:37:09 UTC, Peter Parry wrote:


Whatever happened to the far more graphic sticker which said
Undertaker, Overtaker ?


It was replaced by this.

http://bit.ly/1JloT2N

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Old January 2nd 16, 03:16 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Peter Parry
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On Sat, 2 Jan 2016 07:11:00 -0800 (PST), Alycidon
wrote:

On Saturday, 2 January 2016 14:37:09 UTC, Peter Parry wrote:


Whatever happened to the far more graphic sticker which said
Undertaker, Overtaker ?


It was replaced by this.


Putting that picture on a vehicle would certainly frighten quite a few
away.
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Old January 2nd 16, 04:31 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Tom Crispin[_5_]
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On Saturday, January 2, 2016 at 2:37:09 PM UTC, Peter Parry wrote:
On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 10:57:36 -0800 (PST), Alycidon
wrote:

stickers - described as "offensive" by the London Cycling Campaign


Presumably this is a continuation of the glorious history of 30 years
of campaigning by the CTC against any legislative requirement for
pushbikes to carry either a red light or a rear reflector?


The LCC is not affiliated to the CTC. While the two charities may share some objectives, and may sometimes jointly campaign, they are distinct organisations.
 




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