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Old August 8th 07, 09:45 AM posted to aus.politics,uk.rec.cycling,rec.bicycles.soc,soc.culture.australian,aus.legal
Arthur Brain
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By Emily Power

August 08, 2007 02:39pm
Article from: Herald Sun

A MAGISTRATE who today fined a cyclist who ran a red light in an
incident that killed an elderly pedestrian admitted it was a
"pathetic" penalty.

William-Raisin Shaw, 30, of St Kilda, pleaded guilty in Melbourne
Magistrates Court to a charge of failing to stop at a red light.

A pack of cyclists taking part in a Hell Ride slammed into 77-year-old
James Gould as he crossed Beach Rd at Mentone on a green signal on
August 26 last year.

The Hell Ride is an informal Saturday morning ride from Black Rock to
Mt Eliza and back.


Defence lawyer Michael Sharpley said Raisin-Shaw found himself in the
middle of a pack, some who yelled "rolling, rolling" to indicate their
intention to run the red light.

"One must not underestimate group dynamics and group pressure," Mr
Sharpley said.

At an inquest into Mr Gould's death, coroner Graeme Johnstone said the
Hell Ride was not suitable for suburban streets or main roads. He
highlighted a police submission which said the Hell Ride had
"degenerated into a disorganised race''.

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Old August 8th 07, 09:56 AM posted to aus.politics,uk.rec.cycling,rec.bicycles.soc,soc.culture.australian,aus.legal
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Arthur Brain wrote:
By Emily Power

August 08, 2007 02:39pm
Article from: Herald Sun

A MAGISTRATE who today fined a cyclist who ran a red light in an
incident that killed an elderly pedestrian admitted it was a
"pathetic" penalty.

William-Raisin Shaw, 30, of St Kilda, pleaded guilty in Melbourne
Magistrates Court to a charge of failing to stop at a red light.

A pack of cyclists taking part in a Hell Ride slammed into 77-year-old
James Gould as he crossed Beach Rd at Mentone on a green signal on
August 26 last year.

The Hell Ride is an informal Saturday morning ride from Black Rock to



If "A pack of cyclists taking part in a Hell Ride slammed into" why
was only one charged?

Usual redtop rubbish?
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Old August 8th 07, 10:08 AM posted to aus.politics,uk.rec.cycling,rec.bicycles.soc,soc.culture.australian,aus.legal
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Default Lycra-clad cycling psychos kill 77-year-old

Arthur Brain wrote:

William-Raisin Shaw, 30, of St Kilda, pleaded guilty in Melbourne
Magistrates Court to a charge of failing to stop at a red light.


What has this got to do with uk.rec.cycling unless Arfur Brain is doing
a lame attempt at a troll?

Tony
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Old August 8th 07, 10:21 AM posted to aus.politics,uk.rec.cycling,rec.bicycles.soc,soc.culture.australian,aus.legal
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On Aug 8, 10:45 am, Arthur Brain wrote:
By Emily Power

August 08, 2007 02:39pm
Article from: Herald Sun

A MAGISTRATE who today fined a cyclist who ran a red light in an
incident that killed an elderly pedestrian admitted it was a
"pathetic" penalty.

William-Raisin Shaw, 30, of St Kilda, pleaded guilty in Melbourne
Magistrates Court to a charge of failing to stop at a red light.


I wonder just how many threads could be started on here each day about
speeding, red-light running, drunken, drugged, mobile phone using and
other wise anti-social drivers who have killed someone and escaped
with fine if people started scanning the world's media for examples?




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Old August 8th 07, 03:01 PM posted to aus.politics,uk.rec.cycling,rec.bicycles.soc,soc.culture.australian,aus.legal
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Tony Raven wrote:
Arthur Brain wrote:

William-Raisin Shaw, 30, of St Kilda, pleaded guilty in Melbourne
Magistrates Court to a charge of failing to stop at a red light.


What has this got to do with uk.rec.cycling unless Arfur Brain is doing
a lame attempt at a troll?


A quick search of the web shows that this story is over
four months old.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/nation...761667477.html
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Old August 8th 07, 03:13 PM posted to aus.politics,uk.rec.cycling,rec.bicycles.soc,soc.culture.australian,aus.legal
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"marc"


If "A pack of cyclists taking part in a Hell Ride slammed into" why was
only one charged?




** As he was the one who hit the elderly gentleman - he of course stopped.

No other charge was laid by the police.



........ Phil



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Old August 8th 07, 03:15 PM posted to aus.politics,uk.rec.cycling,rec.bicycles.soc,soc.culture.australian,aus.legal
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"Martin Dann"

A quick search of the web shows that this story is over four months old.



** No - the story is about what happened in court a few hours ago.




........ Phil


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Old August 8th 07, 03:38 PM posted to aus.politics,uk.rec.cycling,rec.bicycles.soc,soc.culture.australian,aus.legal
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On 8 Aug, 10:21, Howard wrote:
On Aug 8, 10:45 am, Arthur Brain wrote:

By Emily Power


August 08, 2007 02:39pm
Article from: Herald Sun


A MAGISTRATE who today fined a cyclist who ran a red light in an
incident that killed an elderly pedestrian admitted it was a
"pathetic" penalty.


William-Raisin Shaw, 30, of St Kilda, pleaded guilty in Melbourne
Magistrates Court to a charge of failing to stop at a red light.


I wonder just how many threads could be started on here each day about
speeding, red-light running, drunken, drugged, mobile phone using and
other wise anti-social drivers who have killed someone and escaped
with fine if people started scanning the world's media for examples?


This is a cycling group, not a motoring group...

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Old August 8th 07, 05:12 PM posted to aus.politics,uk.rec.cycling,rec.bicycles.soc,soc.culture.australian,aus.legal
Arthur Brain
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Default Lycra-clad cycling psychos kill 77-year-old

Howard wrote:
On Aug 8, 10:45 am, Arthur Brain wrote:
By Emily Power

August 08, 2007 02:39pm
Article from: Herald Sun

A MAGISTRATE who today fined a cyclist who ran a red light in an
incident that killed an elderly pedestrian admitted it was a
"pathetic" penalty.

William-Raisin Shaw, 30, of St Kilda, pleaded guilty in Melbourne
Magistrates Court to a charge of failing to stop at a red light.


I wonder just how many threads could be started on here each day about
speeding, red-light running, drunken, drugged, mobile phone using and
other wise anti-social drivers who have killed someone and escaped
with fine if people started scanning the world's media for examples?


I would say that car drivers driving through a red light is a very
rare occurrence, but I think we all know that cyclists flout the rules
of the road with gay abandon - sometimes with tragic results.

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Old August 8th 07, 05:23 PM posted to aus.politics,uk.rec.cycling,rec.bicycles.soc,soc.culture.australian,aus.legal
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Default Lycra-clad cycling psychos kill 77-year-old

Half a Brain wrote:

I would say that car drivers driving through a red light is a very
rare occurrence, but I think we all know that cyclists flout the rules
of the road with gay abandon - sometimes with tragic results.



ROFLMAO. Now I know you are a bona fide Troll.

When the UK motoring organisation the RAC did checks they found that one
in ten drivers crossed more than THREE SECONDS after the lights had
turned to red and one in five bus drivers. Tranport for London also
found fifty percent more cyclists were killed on green by motorists
running red lights than were killed by running red lights themselves.
So while it is no excuse for running red lights on a bicycle, it is
behaviour by no means unique to cyclists nor much of risk to anyone
other than the cyclists themselves.

Tony
 




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