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Fuel 90 Disc Vs. Jekyll 600 Disc Vs. NRS Disc
Trek Fuel 90 (Disc option)
Cannondale Jekyll 600 (Disc option) Giant NRS 2 Disc I'm looking to upgrade to a new FS this year for XC use and want some opinions on these models. I know to ride them and form my own opinions on how they fit, but I'm looking for some experiences and opinions on components. The Jekyll is the only one with a lockout on the rear shock. Is this something I need? I've heard that a lockout is really only needed to help out a poor suspension design. Also, and ideas on what I should pay for these rides new would be appreciated. Regards, Dave |
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Fuel 90 Disc Vs. Jekyll 600 Disc Vs. NRS Disc
"Dave S." wrote in message om... Trek Fuel 90 (Disc option) Cannondale Jekyll 600 (Disc option) Giant NRS 2 Disc I'm looking to upgrade to a new FS this year for XC use and want some opinions on these models. I know to ride them and form my own opinions on how they fit, but I'm looking for some experiences and opinions on components. The Jekyll is the only one with a lockout on the rear shock. Is this something I need? I've heard that a lockout is really only needed to help out a poor suspension design. Also, and ideas on what I should pay for these rides new would be appreciated. Regards, Dave I can't comment on the others but I brought a Trek Fuel 90 Disc Option at the end of last year and don't have any complaints. I haven't missed having a lock out on the rear shock and don't suffer from any noticeable pedal bob. I've found the Hayes brakes to be excellent, the rest of the components aren't anything special but all work perfectly well, the only thing I've changed is the pedals to M959 SPD's. M |
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Fuel 90 Disc Vs. Jekyll 600 Disc Vs. NRS Disc
"Dave S." wrote in message om... Trek Fuel 90 (Disc option) Cannondale Jekyll 600 (Disc option) Giant NRS 2 Disc I'm looking to upgrade to a new FS this year for XC use and want some opinions on these models. I know to ride them and form my own opinions on how they fit, but I'm looking for some experiences and opinions on components. The Jekyll is the only one with a lockout on the rear shock. Is this something I need? I've heard that a lockout is really only needed to help out a poor suspension design. Also, and ideas on what I should pay for these rides new would be appreciated. Regards, Dave Rode the Trek, Giant and Cannondale last year. Bought the Cannondale in November and have been thrilled with it ever since. The Trek felt awkward and kind of clumsy to me. Not very agile, and slow acceleration. Just an all-around unexciting bike to ride. The Giant felt similar, but a little better. The Cannondale had a superior ride by far. It absolutely eats up the trail. Can't say enough good things about the performance of this bike. No problems so far, but the rear Fox Shock does squeak a little. But I urge you to ride each of them yourself and make up your own mind. As far as the lockout goes, I've used it once going up a very long hill. If you're going to be XC racing, it may be something you want. But if that's your bag, you probably want to go with a lighter bike. Mine tips the scale at 29 lbs (Jekyll 600 w/o disc, frame small). Typical XC racers are a few lbs lighter than that. For a killer bike to take out on the trail and ride all day, the Cannondale Jekyll 600 is my recommendation. Paid $1249 without disc. I believe they quoted mean $1499 with disc. Don't recall the prices of the other bikes I test rode since that wasn't a huge issue. It's more important to get the bike you want. But I believe the Jekyll was about the best value given the component group. Not sure why you want disc, but unless you're riding in wet conditions frequently or in lots of long hills, I would save the money on the disc and spend it upgrading to the next component level. V brakes work fine in most conditions as long as you maintain them. Also, as someone else said, don't count out Specialized. If I hadn't bought the C'dale, it would have been a Specialized Enduro or even a Stumpjumper. Problem was I couldn't find an Enduro or 04 Stumpy to test ride. Things might have been different otherwise. Good luck! |
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Fuel 90 Disc Vs. Jekyll 600 Disc Vs. NRS Disc
Dave S. wrote:
I know to ride them and form my own opinions on how they fit, but I'm looking for some experiences and opinions on components. Dave, I bought a Fuel 90 (non-disk) last spring. Trek products in general don't get many great reviews here in AM-B, and some for apparently good reason. None-the-less, I've been extremely pleased with mine. I did spend a couple hundred bucks extra to upgrade the cranks, brakes, and put SRAM shifters on it, though I recall that the disk option is Avid mechs which would be my choice. I'm not overly impressed with the Rockshock Duke on the front (and you won't find too many defenders here), but price was a key issue for me and a figgered I could survive with the Duke until I save up my "allowance" for entry into the vaunted Bomberhood. Bottom line for me on the Fuel: It liked the ride better than anything else I test rode. It served me well through a 5-day jaunt in Moab last fall with little lasting damage. It's held up well for my type of terrain and riding style, though eight months isn't all that long a period to judge. I'm a relatively small guy (5'9'' , 175) and not overly abusive on my rides. You may want to look elsewhere if you're a Clydesdale rider or a hucking fool, anecdotal reports in this NG of Trek frame problems for larger riders might give you pause. It is after all, meant to be a XC bike. The price was right what I was looking to spend, I paid just over $1600 with the upgrades (had the shop put it all on so it probably cost me a bit more than if I'd done it myself). Fit is obviously a personal issue, but was a big factor for me when buying the Fuel. It felt good the moment I threw my leg over it. YMMV. It brings me joy, and I love to ride it. The rest is just irrelevent, really. Good luck Tom |
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Fuel 90 Disc Vs. Jekyll 600 Disc Vs. NRS Disc
On 20 Feb 2004 07:57:50 -0800, Dave S. wrote:
Trek Fuel 90 (Disc option) Cannondale Jekyll 600 (Disc option) Giant NRS 2 Disc I'm looking to upgrade to a new FS this year for XC use and want some opinions on these models. I know to ride them and form my own opinions on how they fit, but I'm looking for some experiences and opinions on components. The Jekyll is the only one with a lockout on the rear shock. Is this something I need? I've heard that a lockout is really only needed to help out a poor suspension design. Also, and ideas on what I should pay for these rides new would be appreciated. Regards, Dave Go for the Surly 1x1. Gman "Wheeler" |
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Fuel 90 Disc Vs. Jekyll 600 Disc Vs. NRS Disc
Subject: Fuel 90 Disc Vs. Jekyll 600 Disc Vs. NRS Disc
From: (Dave S.) Date: 2/20/04 7:57 AM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: Trek Fuel 90 (Disc option) Cannondale Jekyll 600 (Disc option) Giant NRS 2 Disc I'm looking to upgrade to a new FS this year for XC use and want some opinions on these models. I know to ride them and form my own opinions on how they fit, but I'm looking for some experiences and opinions on components. Bought an early release of the '04 Jekyll 800 in October and love it. Had been riding an '00 Sugar but needed some extra travel-- I'm over 200 lbs. and ride SoCal trailers hard! For an all around bike, the jekylls kick but . . . Not too heavy but very plush. Don't know the full componentry on the 600 but my 800 is set-up with ProPedal which makes seated climbing great so I never even use the lock-out. The Jekyll can do it all from nasty (read fun)tech climbs to screaming down the other side. Buy and ride whatever feels good. Brian |
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Fuel 90 Disc Vs. Jekyll 600 Disc Vs. NRS Disc
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so I never even use the lock-out. A Jekyll was my first sus bike. Expected a rear lockout...but the Jekyll didn't have it. Never felt any loss. Jekyll, however, turned out to just be too small in some respects and I got an Ellsworth. On the Ellsworth, I just *had* to have a rear lockout. Paid extra accordingly...used it a few times, then forgot it even existed. Money down the drain IMHO. OTOH, I don't have to keep up with any other riders and wouldn't even *think* about racing...so YMMV. -- PeteCresswell |
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Fuel 90 Disc Vs. Jekyll 600 Disc Vs. NRS Disc
"JPT" wrote in message ... On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 10:28:22 -0500, "tcmedara" wrote: It brings me joy, and I love to ride it. The rest is just irrelevent, really. I've been riding a Fuel 100 for over two years. No problems in over 4000 east coast XC trail miles. Good fit (for me). Climbs way better than I can. In short, I am a happy camper. Can't figure out why everyone hates Trek... Can't say that I hate Trek, I just don't care for the way they feel. It's strictly personal preference. I do believe that Trek delivers a high quality, durable product. They are a leader in the marketplace for a reason....just not my preference. Just about every bike brand has people that dislike it. People are brutal on Cannondale. I would have never considered buying one had I not ridden it, due to all the bad press I've read on this NG and others. Turns out I'm extremely satisfied. Bottom line is that everyone has a bike preference based on feel and pre-programmed attitude from reading mags and reviews on the web. Most mainstream bike brands out there will treat you good if you treat them good. Just make sure you can either work on them yourself or have a good LBS and wrench that can do it for you. They all require adjustment/repair from time to time. |
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Fuel 90 Disc Vs. Jekyll 600 Disc Vs. NRS Disc
"BTL62768" wrote in message ... Subject: Fuel 90 Disc Vs. Jekyll 600 Disc Vs. NRS Disc From: (Dave S.) Date: 2/20/04 7:57 AM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: Trek Fuel 90 (Disc option) Cannondale Jekyll 600 (Disc option) Giant NRS 2 Disc I'm looking to upgrade to a new FS this year for XC use and want some opinions on these models. I know to ride them and form my own opinions on how they fit, but I'm looking for some experiences and opinions on components. Bought an early release of the '04 Jekyll 800 in October and love it. Had been riding an '00 Sugar but needed some extra travel-- I'm over 200 lbs. and ride SoCal trailers hard! For an all around bike, the jekylls kick but . . . Not too heavy but very plush. Don't know the full componentry on the 600 but my 800 is set-up with ProPedal which makes seated climbing great so I never even use the lock-out. The Jekyll can do it all from nasty (read fun)tech climbs to screaming down the other side. Buy and ride whatever feels good. Brian The 600 has ProPedal also. I believe that all 04 Fox shox have ProPedal, regardless of what brand of bike they come on. It seems to work very well, but I don't have much to compare it to since this is my first Fox equipped bike. My last two full squish bikes had elastomer and coil, respectively. I know that when I'm seated and cranking hard, the suspension only moves (apparently) due to the trail, not my pedaling. If you stand up and start cranking though, you will compress the shock due to the up and down movement of your weight. You can minimize that without locking out by keeping your body more stationary and not bouncing up and down so much. |
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