QD wheel spindles.

Just scrounged a pair of MTB wheels - but they have QD spindles.

My locking up chain isn't long enough to go through both wheels, the frame
and whatever I'm chaining it to.

Is there any technical reason why I couldn't swap the spindles over from a
pair of old damaged wheels?

Thanks.

On 20/11/2014 20:05, Ian Field wrote:
Just scrounged a pair of MTB wheels - but they have QD spindles.

My locking up chain isn't long enough to go through both wheels, the
frame and whatever I'm chaining it to.

Is there any technical reason why I couldn't swap the spindles over from
a pair of old damaged wheels?

I'd normally call them axles.

For a traditional wheel, provided they're long enough, the threads match
the cones, and the axle isn't knackered, it'll work.

"Clive George" wrote in message
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On 20/11/2014 20:05, Ian Field wrote:
Just scrounged a pair of MTB wheels - but they have QD spindles.

My locking up chain isn't long enough to go through both wheels, the
frame and whatever I'm chaining it to.

Is there any technical reason why I couldn't swap the spindles over from
a pair of old damaged wheels?

I'd normally call them axles.

For a traditional wheel, provided they're long enough, the threads match
the cones, and the axle isn't knackered, it'll work.

If its a traditional this and provided that, doesn't really answer the
question.

The spindles I'm hoping to salvage from scrap wheels, have cones on them -
I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that those cones on them have
matching threads.

On Thursday, November 20, 2014 4:09:44 PM UTC-5, Ian Field wrote:
"Clive George" wrote in message
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On 20/11/2014 20:05, Ian Field wrote:
Just scrounged a pair of MTB wheels - but they have QD spindles.

My locking up chain isn't long enough to go through both wheels, the
frame and whatever I'm chaining it to.

Is there any technical reason why I couldn't swap the spindles over from
a pair of old damaged wheels?

I'd normally call them axles.

For a traditional wheel, provided they're long enough, the threads match
the cones, and the axle isn't knackered, it'll work.

If its a traditional this and provided that, doesn't really answer the
question.

The spindles I'm hoping to salvage from scrap wheels, have cones on them -
I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that those cones on them have
matching threads.

Without knowing tte maker of the parts it's nearly impossible to tell if theaxle/parts swap will work.

Is QD short for quick release? I've swapped QR axles for nutted ones and vice versa by taking a threaded part from one (the lock nut is good) and trying to thread it onto the axle I want to use. If it goes on then the swap is straightforward transnfer of parts. If the locknut doesn't thread on then the axles are not compatible. You might get lucky and have cones with the same bearing taper. If the thread from the axles doesn't match and you have a decent bike shop or bicycle co-op in your area you can usually get an axle there that'll match tthe threads on the one you have.

Cheers

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On Thursday, November 20, 2014 4:09:44 PM UTC-5, Ian Field wrote:
"Clive George" wrote in message
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On 20/11/2014 20:05, Ian Field wrote:
Just scrounged a pair of MTB wheels - but they have QD spindles.

My locking up chain isn't long enough to go through both wheels, the
frame and whatever I'm chaining it to.

Is there any technical reason why I couldn't swap the spindles over
from
a pair of old damaged wheels?

I'd normally call them axles.

For a traditional wheel, provided they're long enough, the threads
match
the cones, and the axle isn't knackered, it'll work.

If its a traditional this and provided that, doesn't really answer the
question.

The spindles I'm hoping to salvage from scrap wheels, have cones on
them -
I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that those cones on them
have
matching threads.

Without knowing tte maker of the parts it's nearly impossible to tell if
theaxle/parts swap will work.

Is QD short for quick release? I've swapped QR axles for nutted ones and
vice versa by taking a threaded part from one (the lock nut is good) and
trying to thread it onto the axle I want to use. If it goes on then the
swap is straightforward transnfer of parts. If the locknut doesn't thread
on then the axles are not compatible.

Why do the axles need to be compatible?

All the axle, cones and wheel nuts come from the scrap wheel as one unit -
the critical parameter would be the bearing race diameter, the distance
apart, less so. If the hub is narrower, I just screw the cones in a few more
turns and pack it out to the forks with extra locknuts.

On Thursday, November 20, 2014 4:32:19 PM UTC-5, Ian Field wrote:
"Sir Ridesalot" wrote in message
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On Thursday, November 20, 2014 4:09:44 PM UTC-5, Ian Field wrote:
"Clive George" wrote in message
news On 20/11/2014 20:05, Ian Field wrote:
Just scrounged a pair of MTB wheels - but they have QD spindles.

My locking up chain isn't long enough to go through both wheels, the
frame and whatever I'm chaining it to.

Is there any technical reason why I couldn't swap the spindles over
from
a pair of old damaged wheels?

I'd normally call them axles.

For a traditional wheel, provided they're long enough, the threads
match
the cones, and the axle isn't knackered, it'll work.

If its a traditional this and provided that, doesn't really answer the
question.

The spindles I'm hoping to salvage from scrap wheels, have cones on
them -
I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that those cones on them
have
matching threads.

Without knowing tte maker of the parts it's nearly impossible to tell if
theaxle/parts swap will work.

Is QD short for quick release? I've swapped QR axles for nutted ones and
vice versa by taking a threaded part from one (the lock nut is good) and
trying to thread it onto the axle I want to use. If it goes on then the
swap is straightforward transnfer of parts. If the locknut doesn't thread
on then the axles are not compatible.

Why do the axles need to be compatible?

All the axle, cones and wheel nuts come from the scrap wheel as one unit -
the critical parameter would be the bearing race diameter, the distance
apart, less so. If the hub is narrower, I just screw the cones in a few more
turns and pack it out to the forks with extra locknuts.

Compatibility matters because often times the angles on the cones will be different which leads to much faster wear on the bearings especially if used bearings are put in that have already worn to a certasin degree or shape. That can lead to great difficulty keeping the bearings adjusted. It's often just not possible to switch the guts from one hub and put them into a different manufacturers hub. That's why I get a replacement axle whether QR or nutted with the same threads as the one i want to replace.

Cheers

On 20/11/2014 21:09, Ian Field wrote:


"Clive George" wrote in message
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On 20/11/2014 20:05, Ian Field wrote:
Just scrounged a pair of MTB wheels - but they have QD spindles.

My locking up chain isn't long enough to go through both wheels, the
frame and whatever I'm chaining it to.

Is there any technical reason why I couldn't swap the spindles over from
a pair of old damaged wheels?

I'd normally call them axles.

For a traditional wheel, provided they're long enough, the threads
match the cones, and the axle isn't knackered, it'll work.

If its a traditional this and provided that, doesn't really answer the
question.

My campag QR axles won't work in your hub. Neither will any of the
tandem ones.

I've answered the question as well I can with the information you've
provided.

The spindles I'm hoping to salvage from scrap wheels, have cones on them
- I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that those cones on them
have matching threads.

Easy enough to find out. But I'd check the size and state compared to
your other ones.

"Clive George" wrote in message
o.uk...
On 20/11/2014 21:09, Ian Field wrote:


"Clive George" wrote in message
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On 20/11/2014 20:05, Ian Field wrote:
Just scrounged a pair of MTB wheels - but they have QD spindles.

My locking up chain isn't long enough to go through both wheels, the
frame and whatever I'm chaining it to.

Is there any technical reason why I couldn't swap the spindles over
from
a pair of old damaged wheels?

I'd normally call them axles.

For a traditional wheel, provided they're long enough, the threads
match the cones, and the axle isn't knackered, it'll work.

If its a traditional this and provided that, doesn't really answer the
question.

My campag QR axles won't work in your hub. Neither will any of the tandem
ones.

I've answered the question as well I can with the information you've
provided.

The spindles I'm hoping to salvage from scrap wheels, have cones on them
- I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that those cones on them
have matching threads.

Easy enough to find out. But I'd check the size and state compared to your
other ones.

Looks like I should test the wheel nuts for fit before I start taking
anything apart.

Maybe I need to hope the Cones on the QR wheel fit the axle I want to use.

On 21/11/2014 17:59, Ian Field wrote:


"Clive George" wrote in message
o.uk...
On 20/11/2014 21:09, Ian Field wrote:


"Clive George" wrote in message
news On 20/11/2014 20:05, Ian Field wrote:
Just scrounged a pair of MTB wheels - but they have QD spindles.

My locking up chain isn't long enough to go through both wheels, the
frame and whatever I'm chaining it to.

Is there any technical reason why I couldn't swap the spindles over
from
a pair of old damaged wheels?

I'd normally call them axles.

For a traditional wheel, provided they're long enough, the threads
match the cones, and the axle isn't knackered, it'll work.

If its a traditional this and provided that, doesn't really answer the
question.

My campag QR axles won't work in your hub. Neither will any of the
tandem ones.

I've answered the question as well I can with the information you've
provided.

The spindles I'm hoping to salvage from scrap wheels, have cones on them
- I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that those cones on them
have matching threads.

Easy enough to find out. But I'd check the size and state compared to
your other ones.

Looks like I should test the wheel nuts for fit before I start taking
anything apart.

Maybe I need to hope the Cones on the QR wheel fit the axle I want to use.

That's what I'd be hoping, yes. You want to just replace the axle - all
the cones, spacers, locknuts etc should be the ones which came from the
wheel. That way lies least pain.

So yes, seeing if the wheel nuts go onto the stub of the QR axle would
be a good start.

On 20-11-14 21:05, Ian Field wrote:
Just scrounged a pair of MTB wheels - but they have QD spindles.

My locking up chain isn't long enough to go through both wheels, the
frame and whatever I'm chaining it to.

Is there any technical reason why I couldn't swap the spindles over from
a pair of old damaged wheels?

Thanks.

I'm not sure about that, but if it doesn't work you can replace the
quick-release spindle (the lever plus thin spindle assembly) with a
"non-quick-release quick release".
See
http://www.veloplus.ch/AlleProdukte/...8mmsilber.aspx

Then an Allen wrench is needed to get the wheel off, or, for some
models, a non-standard type of "key" that only works with the particular
model.

Ned