"Traffic pollution kills 5,000 a year in UK, says study"

Why should motorists be allowed to continue killing people with their
exhaust fumes?

"Road pollution is more than twice as deadly as traffic accidents,
according to a study of UK air quality.

The analysis appears in Environmental Science and Technology, carried
out by Steve Yim and Steven Barrett, pollution experts from MIT in
Massachusetts.

They estimate that combustion exhausts across the UK cause nearly
5,000 premature deaths each year.

The pair also estimate that exhaust gases from aeroplanes cause a
further 2,000 deaths annually.

By comparison, 2010 saw, 1,850 deaths due to road accidents recorded.

Overall, the study's findings are in line with an earlier report by
the government's Committee on the Medical Effects of Air Pollutants
(COMEAP), which found that air pollution in 2008 was responsible for
about 29,000 deaths in the UK.

The new study arrives at a slightly lower annual figure of 19,000, a
difference the lead author of the COMEAP study, Fintan Hurley,
attributes to differing methodology..."

"...Far more effective, experts say, would be to invest in public
transport, taking cars off the road altogether..."

Mo
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-17704116

-- .
A driving licence is sometimes a licence to kill.

Doug wrote:
Why should motorists be allowed to continue killing people with their
exhaust fumes?

"Road pollution is more than twice as deadly as traffic accidents,
according to a study of UK air quality.

The analysis appears in Environmental Science and Technology, carried
out by Steve Yim and Steven Barrett, pollution experts from MIT in
Massachusetts.

They estimate that combustion exhausts across the UK cause nearly
5,000 premature deaths each year.

The pair also estimate that exhaust gases from aeroplanes cause a
further 2,000 deaths annually.

By comparison, 2010 saw, 1,850 deaths due to road accidents recorded.

Overall, the study's findings are in line with an earlier report by
the government's Committee on the Medical Effects of Air Pollutants
(COMEAP), which found that air pollution in 2008 was responsible for
about 29,000 deaths in the UK.

The new study arrives at a slightly lower annual figure of 19,000, a
difference the lead author of the COMEAP study, Fintan Hurley,
attributes to differing methodology..."

"...Far more effective, experts say, would be to invest in public
transport, taking cars off the road altogether..."

Mo
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-17704116

-- .
A driving licence is sometimes a licence to kill.

They are all guesstimates, not even one death can be proved to be from
traffic pollution or airplane exhaust.

On Apr 19, 8:11*am, "Mrcheerful" wrote:
Doug wrote:
Why should motorists be allowed to continue killing people with their
exhaust fumes?

"Road pollution is more than twice as deadly as traffic accidents,
according to a study of UK air quality.

The analysis appears in Environmental Science and Technology, carried
out by Steve Yim and Steven Barrett, pollution experts from MIT in
Massachusetts.

They estimate that combustion exhausts across the UK cause nearly
5,000 premature deaths each year.

The pair also estimate that exhaust gases from aeroplanes cause a
further 2,000 deaths annually.

By comparison, 2010 saw, 1,850 deaths due to road accidents recorded.

Overall, the study's findings are in line with an earlier report by
the government's Committee on the Medical Effects of Air Pollutants
(COMEAP), which found that air pollution in 2008 was responsible for
about 29,000 deaths in the UK.

The new study arrives at a slightly lower annual figure of 19,000, a
difference the lead author of the COMEAP study, Fintan Hurley,
attributes to differing methodology..."

"...Far more effective, experts say, would be to invest in public
transport, taking cars off the road altogether..."

Mo
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-17704116

-- .
A driving licence is sometimes a licence to kill.

They are all guesstimates, not even one death can be proved to be from
traffic pollution or airplane exhaust.

I would take this more seriously if there was a study of air pollution
in garages and of the people working in them to see if there is a
disproportionate amount of motor mechanics suffering from poisoning
from car fumes over the years of employment compared to jobs in a
cleaner environment.

On Apr 19, 5:53*am, Doug wrote:
Why should motorists be allowed to continue killing people with their
exhaust fumes?

"Road pollution is more than twice as deadly as traffic accidents,
according to a study of UK air quality.

The analysis appears in Environmental Science and Technology, carried
out by Steve Yim and Steven Barrett, pollution experts from MIT in
Massachusetts.

They estimate that combustion exhausts across the UK cause nearly
5,000 premature deaths each year.

The pair also estimate that exhaust gases from aeroplanes cause a
further 2,000 deaths annually.

By comparison, 2010 saw, 1,850 deaths due to road accidents recorded.

Overall, the study's findings are in line with an earlier report by
the government's Committee on the Medical Effects of Air Pollutants
(COMEAP), which found that air pollution in 2008 was responsible for
about 29,000 deaths in the UK.

The new study arrives at a slightly lower annual figure of 19,000, a
difference the lead author of the COMEAP study, Fintan Hurley,
attributes to differing methodology..."

"...Far more effective, experts say, would be to invest in public
transport, taking cars off the road altogether..."

Mohttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-17704116

-- .
A driving licence is sometimes a licence to kill.

Doug what should we do? no cars or ships or planes, no coal or
electricity.

On 19/04/2012 05:53, Doug wrote:
Why should motorists be allowed to continue killing people with their
exhaust fumes?

"Road pollution is more than twice as deadly as traffic accidents,
according to a study of UK air quality.

The analysis appears in Environmental Science and Technology, carried
out by Steve Yim and Steven Barrett, pollution experts from MIT in
Massachusetts.

They estimate that combustion exhausts across the UK cause nearly
5,000 premature deaths each year.

The pair also estimate that exhaust gases from aeroplanes cause a
further 2,000 deaths annually.

By comparison, 2010 saw, 1,850 deaths due to road accidents recorded.

493,242 dies in 2010.

So, only 1.79% of deaths. Nothing to worry about then, thanks for
confirming that.


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On Apr 19, 8:11 am, "Mrcheerful" wrote:
Doug wrote:
Why should motorists be allowed to continue killing people with their
exhaust fumes?

"Road pollution is more than twice as deadly as traffic accidents,
according to a study of UK air quality.

The analysis appears in Environmental Science and Technology, carried
out by Steve Yim and Steven Barrett, pollution experts from MIT in
Massachusetts.

They estimate that combustion exhausts across the UK cause nearly
5,000 premature deaths each year.

The pair also estimate that exhaust gases from aeroplanes cause a
further 2,000 deaths annually.

By comparison, 2010 saw, 1,850 deaths due to road accidents recorded.

Overall, the study's findings are in line with an earlier report by
the government's Committee on the Medical Effects of Air Pollutants
(COMEAP), which found that air pollution in 2008 was responsible for
about 29,000 deaths in the UK.

The new study arrives at a slightly lower annual figure of 19,000, a
difference the lead author of the COMEAP study, Fintan Hurley,
attributes to differing methodology..."

"...Far more effective, experts say, would be to invest in public
transport, taking cars off the road altogether..."

Mo
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-17704116

-- .
A driving licence is sometimes a licence to kill.

They are all guesstimates, not even one death can be proved to be from
traffic pollution or airplane exhaust.

I would take this more seriously if there was a study of air pollution
in garages and of the people working in them to see if there is a
disproportionate amount of motor mechanics suffering from poisoning
from car fumes over the years of employment compared to jobs in a
cleaner environment.

Good point well made, however I think this will be skipped over and ignored
by the zealots on here.

On Apr 19, 8:48*am, Richard McKenzie
wrote:
On Apr 19, 5:53*am, Doug wrote:









Why should motorists be allowed to continue killing people with their
exhaust fumes?

"Road pollution is more than twice as deadly as traffic accidents,
according to a study of UK air quality.

The analysis appears in Environmental Science and Technology, carried
out by Steve Yim and Steven Barrett, pollution experts from MIT in
Massachusetts.

They estimate that combustion exhausts across the UK cause nearly
5,000 premature deaths each year.

The pair also estimate that exhaust gases from aeroplanes cause a
further 2,000 deaths annually.

By comparison, 2010 saw, 1,850 deaths due to road accidents recorded.

Overall, the study's findings are in line with an earlier report by
the government's Committee on the Medical Effects of Air Pollutants
(COMEAP), which found that air pollution in 2008 was responsible for
about 29,000 deaths in the UK.

The new study arrives at a slightly lower annual figure of 19,000, a
difference the lead author of the COMEAP study, Fintan Hurley,
attributes to differing methodology..."

"...Far more effective, experts say, would be to invest in public
transport, taking cars off the road altogether..."

Mohttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-17704116

-- .
A driving licence is sometimes a licence to kill.

Doug what should we do? no cars or ships or planes, no coal or
electricity.

You know the answer to that one!

Protest!

On 19/04/2012 08:48, Richard McKenzie wrote:
On Apr 19, 5:53 am, wrote:
Why should motorists be allowed to continue killing people with their
exhaust fumes?

"Road pollution is more than twice as deadly as traffic accidents,
according to a study of UK air quality.

The analysis appears in Environmental Science and Technology, carried
out by Steve Yim and Steven Barrett, pollution experts from MIT in
Massachusetts.

They estimate that combustion exhausts across the UK cause nearly
5,000 premature deaths each year.

The pair also estimate that exhaust gases from aeroplanes cause a
further 2,000 deaths annually.

By comparison, 2010 saw, 1,850 deaths due to road accidents recorded.

Overall, the study's findings are in line with an earlier report by
the government's Committee on the Medical Effects of Air Pollutants
(COMEAP), which found that air pollution in 2008 was responsible for
about 29,000 deaths in the UK.

The new study arrives at a slightly lower annual figure of 19,000, a
difference the lead author of the COMEAP study, Fintan Hurley,
attributes to differing methodology..."

"...Far more effective, experts say, would be to invest in public
transport, taking cars off the road altogether..."

Mohttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-17704116

-- .
A driving licence is sometimes a licence to kill.

Doug what should we do? no cars or ships or planes, no coal or
electricity.

He'd be fine. He doesn't work instead receiving handouts from us and
expecting retail workers to work Christmas day and Easter day. He
cycles to everywhere he needs to. Mind, when he finds his local grocers
empty after lorries and deliveries are banned, he might then get to see
the world of his dreams.

On Apr 19, 11:29*am, Fredxx wrote:
On 19/04/2012 08:48, Richard McKenzie wrote:





On Apr 19, 5:53 am, *wrote:
Why should motorists be allowed to continue killing people with their
exhaust fumes?

"Road pollution is more than twice as deadly as traffic accidents,
according to a study of UK air quality.

The analysis appears in Environmental Science and Technology, carried
out by Steve Yim and Steven Barrett, pollution experts from MIT in
Massachusetts.

They estimate that combustion exhausts across the UK cause nearly
5,000 premature deaths each year.

The pair also estimate that exhaust gases from aeroplanes cause a
further 2,000 deaths annually.

By comparison, 2010 saw, 1,850 deaths due to road accidents recorded.

Overall, the study's findings are in line with an earlier report by
the government's Committee on the Medical Effects of Air Pollutants
(COMEAP), which found that air pollution in 2008 was responsible for
about 29,000 deaths in the UK.

The new study arrives at a slightly lower annual figure of 19,000, a
difference the lead author of the COMEAP study, Fintan Hurley,
attributes to differing methodology..."

"...Far more effective, experts say, would be to invest in public
transport, taking cars off the road altogether..."

Mohttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-17704116

-- .
A driving licence is sometimes a licence to kill.

Doug what should we do? no cars or ships or planes, no coal or
electricity.

He'd be fine. *He doesn't work instead receiving handouts from us and
expecting retail workers to work Christmas day and Easter day. *He
cycles to everywhere he needs to. *Mind, when he finds his local grocers
empty after lorries and deliveries are banned, he might then get to see
the world of his dreams.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Dont forget Sunday too.

Maybe he still trapped in a 1970/80 'sit com' where he is living with
a Felicity Kendal look alike. And wonders why when he goes around to
his neighbours to scrounge sugar their fruitbowl is always empty.
Except one time when they had guests and the bowl was full of keys.

On 19/04/2012 05:53, Doug wrote:
Why should motorists be allowed to continue killing people with their
exhaust fumes?

"Road pollution is more than twice as deadly as traffic accidents,
according to a study of UK air quality.

The analysis appears in Environmental Science and Technology, carried
out by Steve Yim and Steven Barrett, pollution experts from MIT in
Massachusetts.

They estimate that combustion exhausts across the UK cause nearly
5,000 premature deaths each year.

The pair also estimate that exhaust gases from aeroplanes cause a
further 2,000 deaths annually.

By comparison, 2010 saw, 1,850 deaths due to road accidents recorded.

Overall, the study's findings are in line with an earlier report by
the government's Committee on the Medical Effects of Air Pollutants
(COMEAP), which found that air pollution in 2008 was responsible for
about 29,000 deaths in the UK.

As that study says:

'...the result expressed, in terms of number of attributable or
additional deaths, may easily be misunderstood or misrepresented. This
calculation is not an estimate of the number of people whose untimely
death is caused entirely by air pollution but a way of representing the
effect across the whole population of air pollution when considered as a
contributory factor to many more individual deaths.'

'All of these measures – impact on mortality equivalent to a number of
deaths with given age distribution, population survival time or
life-years and life expectancy at birth (which can also be calculated) –
are characteristics of the population as a whole and cannot be applied
at an individual level.'

'The Committee stresses the need for careful interpretation of these
metrics to avoid incorrect inferences being drawn – they are valid
representations of population aggregate or average effects, but they can
be misleading when interpreted as reflecting the experience of individuals.'

In other words, pollution is not directly responsible for 29,000 deaths,
but that is simply a way of quantifying the effect on the population.
Another, also used in that report, is to express it as a change in life
expectancy. Removing all human generated particulates, which BTW is
almost certainly not practical, would increase average life expectancy
for those born after the change by six months. Reducing them by an
achievable 1 microgramme per cubic metre would increase it by 20 days.

The report also makes the point that, due to uncertainties, their
results are simply a best guess and the actual benefits could be as
little as one-sixth that predicted or as much as twice that predicted.

The new study arrives at a slightly lower annual figure of 19,000, a
difference the lead author of the COMEAP study, Fintan Hurley,
attributes to differing methodology..."

"...Far more effective, experts say, would be to invest in public
transport, taking cars off the road altogether..."

Mo
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-17704116

Unfortunately, the authors of the newer report have chosen to sell it,
which makes it difficult to see exactly what the differences are from
the freely available COMEAP study.

Colin Bignell