leg cramps at night, after cycling/exercising

Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Monday, July 22, 2013 8:09:12 AM UTC-4, thirty-six wrote:

Coconut water or ocean water is said to be an accurate plasma replacement. Maybe the coconut palm
is the tree-of-life. I suspect that generally the palms do provide best
nutrition. Coconut oil is
said to be a facsimile of our natural skin oil. It's not so good as fish
oil for getting stagnant
lymph moving. Oily fish is so good for the lymphatics, one could base a
religion on it.


One could also base a religion on the coconut, but I wouldn't recommend it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_Engelhardt


You really do have some very strange understandings of how the human body operates and is fed.

.... unlike many homicidal medical doctors who seem to only have a
prescription pad.

On 7/22/2013 10:01 AM, thirty-six wrote:
On Monday, 22 July 2013 14:26:19 UTC+1, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Monday, July 22, 2013 8:09:12 AM UTC-4, thirty-six wrote:

On Monday, 22 July 2013 12:32:11 UTC+1, John B. wrote:



On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 04:20:15 -0700 (PDT), thirty-six







wrote:















On Sunday, 21 July 2013 23:46:40 UTC+1, (PeteCresswell) wrote:







Per thirty-six:















Once the lymphatics are working well, there is no disease.































Can somebody explain where the lymph system comes in?























It is the major circulatory system in the human body. It manages to keep us healthy as long as we keep it healthy. It is the cleansing system, removing surplus minerals, toxins and foreign bodies from the muscle and organ fibres. Some being recycled back to the digestive tract, others being dumped out through the skin. It requires fats to lubricate the ducts and draw the minerals through the capillaries. Sea salt/seawater is also important in supporting it's function. While we feed our muscles with carbohydrate for power, we must also cleanse those muscles using fat and salt. It is the soap to our muscle-fibre. The ancients had it right and held both oil (usually olive) and salt (of the sea, not NaCl2) in high esteem.















So if you injure the lymph system you drop down dead







No, the lymphatic system will recapillarize in areas of damage. One may drop down repeatedly with lymphatic congestion and the death is long and suffering.







while you can







live happily ever after if someone severs your arteries?







It's best not to allow the red fluid to escape. Blood pressure drops and clots should form. The injured will slowly rehydrate if the lymphatic system's content is fluid. Blood loss may be countered naturally as long as the injured remains resting.







Coconut water or ocean water is said to be an accurate plasma replacement. Maybe the coconut palm is the tree-of-life. I suspect that generally the palms do provide best nutrition. Coconut oil is said to be a facsimile of our natural skin oil. It's not so good as fish oil for getting stagnant lymph moving. Oily fish is so good for the lymphatics, one could base a religion on it (Vatican currently claims that intellectual property).



Bllod clots won't form on most severed arteries until after the victim has bled to death.

Do you mean, dead as declared by a medical doctor, or really dead, that for which one does not recover after three days? You do understand doctors make "mistakes" don't you?

That's because of the pressure the heart pumps the blood at.

The heart does not pump blood "at pressure", that's another misconception that's been festering since the Royal College of Physicians got there hands on medical-apparatus, more commonly known as conjurers prop's (properties). The heart pumps because of the ramp in mineral levels. It's in response to what's in the blood versus what is in the heart tissue and immediate connecting ducts.

Why the heart pumps doesn't seem pertinent to how it pumps. I've seen
severed arteries spraying blood. There is certainly some pressure behind
that.




You really do have some very strange understandings

Let me make it clear to you. I have NO under-standing of general principlae of medical professionals.

of how the human body operates and is fed.


I've been managing it much better than those that be registered medical men.
Perhaps it's because I am a living breathing man, not a Person (of commerce).

I know stuff most don't, stuff I've experienced, seen and touched, myself. My judgement may have been previously swayed due to the mesmerism of medical illusionary practice, but no more, I see clearly with free eyes.



Commendable but are you saying that a severed limb is going to clot
before you bleed to death? Have you tried to stop the bleeding from
someone with a severed artery? You have to apply enough pressure to
stop the flow. Or am I misunderstanding what you're saying?

On 7/22/2013 9:01 AM, thirty-six wrote:
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The heart does not pump blood "at pressure", that's another misconception ...
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I sincerely wish you never ever see a real arterial spurt.
Scary as hell even if it's the other guy and not your own.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Monday, July 22, 2013 10:50:11 AM UTC-4, AMuzi wrote:
On 7/22/2013 9:01 AM, thirty-six wrote:

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The heart does not pump blood "at pressure", that's another misconception ...

-snip-





I sincerely wish you never ever see a real arterial spurt.

Scary as hell even if it's the other guy and not your own.



--

Andrew Muzi

www.yellowjersey.org/

Open every day since 1 April, 1971

I've seen is and ccontrary to Trevor's belief, there is a lot of pressure there and it's amazing how far blood from a severed artery will fly.

Cheers

On 7/22/2013 11:04 AM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Monday, July 22, 2013 10:50:11 AM UTC-4, AMuzi wrote:
On 7/22/2013 9:01 AM, thirty-six wrote:

-snip snip snip-





The heart does not pump blood "at pressure", that's another misconception ...

-snip-





I sincerely wish you never ever see a real arterial spurt.

Scary as hell even if it's the other guy and not your own.



--

Andrew Muzi

www.yellowjersey.org/

Open every day since 1 April, 1971

I've seen is and ccontrary to Trevor's belief, there is a lot of pressure there and it's amazing how far blood from a severed artery will fly.

Yeah, same here, unfortunately.

Per AMuzi:
Besides harboring the Lyme parasite?

http://www.news.ucdavis.edu/search/n....lasso?id=9922

I meant in the context of cramps.
--
Pete Cresswell

On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 05:09:12 -0700 (PDT), thirty-six
wrote:

On Monday, 22 July 2013 12:32:11 UTC+1, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 04:20:15 -0700 (PDT), thirty-six

wrote:



On Sunday, 21 July 2013 23:46:40 UTC+1, (PeteCresswell) wrote:

Per thirty-six:



Once the lymphatics are working well, there is no disease.







Can somebody explain where the lymph system comes in?





It is the major circulatory system in the human body. It manages to keep us healthy as long as we keep it healthy. It is the cleansing system, removing surplus minerals, toxins and foreign bodies from the muscle and organ fibres. Some being recycled back to the digestive tract, others being dumped out through the skin. It requires fats to lubricate the ducts and draw the minerals through the capillaries. Sea salt/seawater is also important in supporting it's function. While we feed our muscles with carbohydrate for power, we must also cleanse those muscles using fat and salt. It is the soap to our muscle-fibre. The ancients had it right and held both oil (usually olive) and salt (of the sea, not NaCl2) in high esteem.



So if you injure the lymph system you drop down dead

No, the lymphatic system will recapillarize in areas of damage. One may drop down repeatedly with lymphatic congestion and the death is long and suffering.

while you can

live happily ever after if someone severs your arteries?

It's best not to allow the red fluid to escape. Blood pressure drops and clots should form. The injured will slowly rehydrate if the lymphatic system's content is fluid. Blood loss may be countered naturally as long as the injured remains resting.

Coconut water or ocean water is said to be an accurate plasma replacement. Maybe the coconut palm is the tree-of-life. I suspect that generally the palms do provide best nutrition. Coconut oil is said to be a facsimile of our natural skin oil. It's not so good as fish oil for getting stagnant lymph moving. Oily fish is so good for the lymphatics, one could base a religion on it (Vatican currently claims that intellectual property).


Your explanation seem a bit confusing as you appear to be saying that
exsanguination may not cause death as long as the lymph system isn't
damaged and there is a coconut tree close by.
--
Cheers,

John B.

"Frank Krygowski" wrote in message
...

The articles that recommended mustard pointed out that nobody seems to
know why it works; but OTOH, cramping in general is poorly understood.
It's unlikely that any chemical in the mustard makes it to the muscle,
because when it works, mustard stops a cramp in seconds. But I guess I
don't care much why it works. For me, it just does.
---

I was at Penn Station couple days ago and got the artichoke sub, and a
couple mustard packets to go. Guldens. I'm almost looking forward to
getting a cramp so I can test the mustard solution.

I read a handful of websites that said mustard may work, like you said.
I put a couple packets on my nightstand.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/health...,1026515.story

On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 19:37:19 -0400, "Gus"
wrote:

It has been very hot and humid here of late. Couple days ago I just rode to
the library and back, maybe 10 miles but it was during the afternoon. And I
mowed some of my lawn with a reel mower human powered the same day.

That night had terrible leg cramp when tried to put down the recliner foot
support and got horrible shooting pain in my calf. I had tried to drink
lots of water (maybe 4-5 16 ounce glasses during the day) and ate half a
banana. Usually, eating a banana prevents the problem but not this time.
Funny, not so funny thing at the time, was I didn't even get the foot
support down it popped back up, so was stuck in the recliner with the foot
support up. Had to shimmy out trying to not bend my beg to make it cramp
again. After about 15 minutes made it to the fridge and ate half another
banana and drank a glass of water. But had the leg cramped again couple
times though not full blown searing pain.

What do you do to prevent leg calf cramps? And what do when you get one in
the middle of the night? I usually writhe in pain and try and massage it
and try to relax. Eventually, it stops.


I have had the same thing, cramps evening/night after long hot sweaty
ride. A potassium-containing salt substitute took care of it, use in
your favorite beverage while or after riding. Also good on popcorn.

"Sports" drinks seem to have the same stuff, but they cost more.

Wow, thanks thirty -six for all the effort in responding, but I'm not convinced you have any idea what you are talking about. It has been very entertaining though. Please excuse me if I offend.