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AMuzi writes:
On 10/3/2018 2:44 PM, Duane wrote: On 03/10/2018 2:16 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Wednesday, October 3, 2018 at 12:16:07 PM UTC-4, jbeattie wrote: On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 2:04:27 PM UTC-7, Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 4:51:31 PM UTC-4, AMuzi wrote: On 10/2/2018 2:32 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 1:09:38 PM UTC-4, AMuzi wrote: On 10/2/2018 11:29 AM, jbeattie wrote: Snipped StVZO are job-killing regulations. Markets should be allowed to regulate light output. Die globalists, die! https://www.brooksengland.com/media/...1638b377e8.jpg -- Jay Beattie. Nice try but it's not safe. No Federally mandated CPSC wheel reflectors. Anything could happen! -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 #1. Is that Joerg's bicycle? #2. I see a wheel reflector on each wheel. Cheers Nice try but they're the old Amber, not the current Safety White. Danger! -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 Here they're supposed to be white on the front and red on the rear. Ditto for the safety reflective tape that's supposed to be applied to the front and rear forks. That's according to Ontario, Canada law. If cops were real sticklers to the requirements for bicycles there'ld be darn few Legal bicycles here on the roads. Cheers Cheers Amber or white are acceptable. Memorize this. There will be a test later. 16 CFR §1512.16 Requirements for reflectors. Bicycles shall be equipped with reflective devices to permit recognition and identification under illumination from motor vehicle headlamps. The use of reflector combinations off the center plane of the bicycle (defined 16 CFR §1512.16 in §1512.18(m)(2)) is acceptable if each reflector meets the requirements of this section and of §1512.18 (m) and (n) and the combination of reflectors has a clear field of view of ±10° vertically and ±50° horizontally. Sidewalk bicycles are not required to have reflectors. (a) Front, rear, and pedal reflectors. There shall be an essentially colorless front-facing reflector, essentially colorless or amber pedal reflectors, and a red rear-facing reflector. (b) Side reflectors. There shall be retroreflective tire sidewalls or, alternatively, reflectors mounted on the spokes of each wheel, or, for non-caliper rim brake bicycles, retroreflective wheel rims. The center of spoke-mounted reflectors shall be within 76 mm (3.0 in.) of the inside of the rim. Side reflective devices shall be visible on each side of the wheel. (c) Front reflector. The reflector or mount shall not contact the ground plane when the bicycle is resting on that plane in any orientation. The optical axis of the reflector shall be directed forward within 5° of the horizontal-vertical alignment of the bicycle when the wheels are tracking in a straight line, as defined in §1512.18(m)(2). The reflectors and/or mounts shall incorporate a distinct, preferred assembly method that shall insure that the reflector meets the optical requirements of this paragraph (c) when the reflector is attached to the bicycle. The front reflector shall be tested in accordance with the reflector mount and alignment test, §1512.18(m). (d) Rear reflector. The reflector or mount shall not contact the ground plane when the bicycle is resting on that plane in any orientation. The reflector shall be mounted such that it is to the rear of the seat mast with the top of the reflector at least 76 mm (3.0 in) below the point on the seat surface that is intersected by the line of the seat post. The optical axis of the reflector shall be directed rearward within 5° of the horizontal-vertical alignment of the bicycle when the wheels are traveling in a straight line, as defined in §1512.18(m)(2). The reflectors and/or mounts shall incorporate a distinct, preferred assembly method that shall insure that the reflector meets the optical requirements of this paragraph (d) when the reflector is attached to the bicycle. The rear reflector shall be tested in accordance with the reflector mount and alignment test, §1512.18(m). (e) Pedal reflectors. Each pedal shall have reflectors located on the front and rear surfaces of the pedal. The reflector elements may be either integral with the construction of the pedal or mechanically attached, but shall be sufficiently recessed from the edge of the pedal, or of the reflector housing, to prevent contact of the reflector element with a flat surface placed in contact with the edge of the pedal. (f) Side reflectors. Reflectors affixed to the wheel spokes shall be mounted either flat on the spokes or within the spoke cage such that the angle between the optical axis and the normal to the plane of the wheel shall not exceed the angle of the spokes with the plane of the wheel. The reflectors shall not interfere with any wheel adjustments. The side-mounted reflector devices shall be essentially colorless or amber on the front wheel and essentially colorless or red on the rear wheel. (g) Reflector tests. The pedal, front-mount, rear-mount, and side-mount reflectors shall be tested in accordance with the reflector test, §1512.18(n), to assure the reflectance values over the angles given in tables 1 and 2. (h) Retroreflective tire sidewalls. When retroreflective tire sidewalls are used in lieu of spoke-mounted reflectors, the reflecting material shall meet the following requirements: (1) The retroreflective material shall form a continuous circle on the sidewall. (2) The retroreflective material shall adhere to the tire such that after the tire has been subjected to a temperature of 50° ±3 °C (122° ±5.4 °F) for 30 minutes, the retroreflective material cannot be peeled or scraped away without removal of tire material. (3) The retroreflective material shall be as resistant to abrasion as is the adjacent sidewall material so that when retroreflective material is removed from the inflated tire by abrasion with a wet, steel bristle brush, tire material will be removed along with the retroreflective material. (4) The retroreflective material shall be tested for performance in accordance with the retroreflective tire test, §1512.18(o), to assure the reflectance properties over the angles given in table 3. When a portion of the retroreflective material is selected (and the remainder is masked as specified in §1512.18(o)(2)(i)), the selected portion shall not contact the ground plane when the assembled bicycle is resting on that plane in any orientation. (i) Retroreflective rims. When retroreflective rims are used in lieu of spoke-mounted reflectors or retroreflective tire sidewalls, the reflecting material shall meet the following requirements: (1) The retroreflective material shall form a continuous circle on the rim. (2) If the retroreflective material is applied to the rim in the form of a self-adhesive tape, the following requirement must be met: Use a sharp knife, razor blade, or similar instrument to carefully release an end of the tape material sufficient to be grasped between the thumb and finger. Grasp the freed tape end and gradually pull in a direction 90° to the plane of the rim. The tape material must break before additional separation (peeling) from the rim is observed. (3) After the retroreflective material is abraded in accordance with the abrasion test for retroreflective rims at §1512.18(r), the rim must then be tested for performance in accordance with the retroreflective tire and rim test at §1512.18(o), to assure the reflectance properties over the angles given in table 3. Question One: Johnny is riding down the sidewalk on his bicycle. If his bicycle is is festooned with wheel-mounted side reflectors in accordance with the law, what is the color of the reflector in his front wheel? a. Amber b. Essentially Colorless c. Either a or b d. Neither a or b because Johnny is on a sidewalk bicycle e. None of the above because Johnny is breaking the law by riding his bicycle on the sidewalk and was taken down by the police. -- Jay Beattie. Is all that U.S.A. law or Ontario, Canada law? Cheers I don't think there is a U.S.A. law. I think in the states it's by the state as it's by the province in Canada. That said, amber is allowed in Quebec in some positions. 232. Every bicycle must carry (1) one white reflector at the front; (2) one red reflector at the rear; (3) one amber or white reflector on each pedal; (4) on the front wheel, an amber or white reflector attached to the spokes and visible on both sides of the bicycle, an amber or white reflective strip attached to each side of the fork, a tire with reflective sidewalls or a rim with a continuous reflective strip around the entire circumference of the wheel on both sides; and (5) on the back wheel, a red or white reflector attached to the spokes and visible on both sides of the bicycle, a red or white reflective strip on each seat stay, a tire with reflective sidewalls, or a rim with a continuous reflective strip around the entire circumference of the wheel on both sides. Despite the first paragraph, a bicycle need not carry the reflector required under subparagraph 3 of that paragraph if the cyclist wears a reflective band around each ankle or shoes with reflective strips. Any equipment or object placed on a bicycle that blocks a prescribed reflector or its substitute must carry a reflector or a reflective strip. A trailer towed by a bicycle must carry two red reflectors at the rear, as far apart as practicable, or a red reflective strip placed as close to horizontal as possible across the width of the trailer. 1986, c. 91, s. 232; 2010, c. 34, s. 45; 2018, c. 7, s. 43. OK I think I found it: https://www.cpsc.gov/Business--Manuf...-Requirements/ note link to subsection 1512.16: http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx...12_main_02.tpl Special note to fitness/performance crowd: "(1) A rider weighing at least 150 pounds must ride a bicycle at least 4 miles with the tires inflated to maximum recommended pressure. The rider must travel five times at a speed of at least 15 miles per hour over a 100 foot cleated course." Which seems to indicate a regulation of cyclists and cycling rather than actual hardware. I think you might have meant subsection 1512.18, although the verbiage in that section is not exactly as in your excerpt. It describes a testing procedure, not very rigorous, but neither completely ridiculous. Unless I am mistaken, all of the quoted US law prescribes minimum standards for bicycles offered for sale. The Canadian laws quoted seem to prescribe standards for bicycles as they are ridden on public ways. US states do have similar laws, although I have never lived anywhere that they are actually enforced. -- |
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SIX thousand and FIVE hundred lumens !!!!!!!!!!
On Wednesday, October 3, 2018 at 1:31:04 PM UTC-7, Radey Shouman wrote:
AMuzi writes: On 10/3/2018 2:44 PM, Duane wrote: On 03/10/2018 2:16 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Wednesday, October 3, 2018 at 12:16:07 PM UTC-4, jbeattie wrote: On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 2:04:27 PM UTC-7, Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 4:51:31 PM UTC-4, AMuzi wrote: On 10/2/2018 2:32 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 1:09:38 PM UTC-4, AMuzi wrote: On 10/2/2018 11:29 AM, jbeattie wrote: Snipped StVZO are job-killing regulations. Markets should be allowed to regulate light output. Die globalists, die! https://www.brooksengland.com/media/...1638b377e8.jpg -- Jay Beattie. Nice try but it's not safe. No Federally mandated CPSC wheel reflectors. Anything could happen! -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 #1. Is that Joerg's bicycle? #2. I see a wheel reflector on each wheel. Cheers Nice try but they're the old Amber, not the current Safety White. Danger! -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 Here they're supposed to be white on the front and red on the rear. Ditto for the safety reflective tape that's supposed to be applied to the front and rear forks. That's according to Ontario, Canada law. If cops were real sticklers to the requirements for bicycles there'ld be darn few Legal bicycles here on the roads. Cheers Cheers Amber or white are acceptable. Memorize this. There will be a test later. 16 CFR 1512.16 Requirements for reflectors. Bicycles shall be equipped with reflective devices to permit recognition and identification under illumination from motor vehicle headlamps. The use of reflector combinations off the center plane of the bicycle (defined 16 CFR §1512.16 in §1512.18(m)(2)) is acceptable if each reflector meets the requirements of this section and of §1512.18 (m) and (n) and the combination of reflectors has a clear field of view of ±10° vertically and ±50° horizontally. Sidewalk bicycles are not required to have reflectors. (a) Front, rear, and pedal reflectors. There shall be an essentially colorless front-facing reflector, essentially colorless or amber pedal reflectors, and a red rear-facing reflector. (b) Side reflectors. There shall be retroreflective tire sidewalls or, alternatively, reflectors mounted on the spokes of each wheel, or, for non-caliper rim brake bicycles, retroreflective wheel rims. The center of spoke-mounted reflectors shall be within 76 mm (3.0 in.) of the inside of the rim. Side reflective devices shall be visible on each side of the wheel. (c) Front reflector. The reflector or mount shall not contact the ground plane when the bicycle is resting on that plane in any orientation. The optical axis of the reflector shall be directed forward within 5° of the horizontal-vertical alignment of the bicycle when the wheels are tracking in a straight line, as defined in §1512.18(m)(2). The reflectors and/or mounts shall incorporate a distinct, preferred assembly method that shall insure that the reflector meets the optical requirements of this paragraph (c) when the reflector is attached to the bicycle. The front reflector shall be tested in accordance with the reflector mount and alignment test, §1512.18(m). (d) Rear reflector. The reflector or mount shall not contact the ground plane when the bicycle is resting on that plane in any orientation. The reflector shall be mounted such that it is to the rear of the seat mast with the top of the reflector at least 76 mm (3.0 in) below the point on the seat surface that is intersected by the line of the seat post. The optical axis of the reflector shall be directed rearward within 5° of the horizontal-vertical alignment of the bicycle when the wheels are traveling in a straight line, as defined in §1512.18(m)(2). The reflectors and/or mounts shall incorporate a distinct, preferred assembly method that shall insure that the reflector meets the optical requirements of this paragraph (d) when the reflector is attached to the bicycle. The rear reflector shall be tested in accordance with the reflector mount and alignment test, §1512.18(m). (e) Pedal reflectors. Each pedal shall have reflectors located on the front and rear surfaces of the pedal. The reflector elements may be either integral with the construction of the pedal or mechanically attached, but shall be sufficiently recessed from the edge of the pedal, or of the reflector housing, to prevent contact of the reflector element with a flat surface placed in contact with the edge of the pedal. (f) Side reflectors. Reflectors affixed to the wheel spokes shall be mounted either flat on the spokes or within the spoke cage such that the angle between the optical axis and the normal to the plane of the wheel shall not exceed the angle of the spokes with the plane of the wheel. The reflectors shall not interfere with any wheel adjustments. The side-mounted reflector devices shall be essentially colorless or amber on the front wheel and essentially colorless or red on the rear wheel. (g) Reflector tests. The pedal, front-mount, rear-mount, and side-mount reflectors shall be tested in accordance with the reflector test, §1512.18(n), to assure the reflectance values over the angles given in tables 1 and 2. (h) Retroreflective tire sidewalls. When retroreflective tire sidewalls are used in lieu of spoke-mounted reflectors, the reflecting material shall meet the following requirements: (1) The retroreflective material shall form a continuous circle on the sidewall. (2) The retroreflective material shall adhere to the tire such that after the tire has been subjected to a temperature of 50° ±3 °C (122° ±5.4 °F) for 30 minutes, the retroreflective material cannot be peeled or scraped away without removal of tire material. (3) The retroreflective material shall be as resistant to abrasion as is the adjacent sidewall material so that when retroreflective material is removed from the inflated tire by abrasion with a wet, steel bristle brush, tire material will be removed along with the retroreflective material. (4) The retroreflective material shall be tested for performance in accordance with the retroreflective tire test, §1512.18(o), to assure the reflectance properties over the angles given in table 3. When a portion of the retroreflective material is selected (and the remainder is masked as specified in §1512.18(o)(2)(i)), the selected portion shall not contact the ground plane when the assembled bicycle is resting on that plane in any orientation. (i) Retroreflective rims. When retroreflective rims are used in lieu of spoke-mounted reflectors or retroreflective tire sidewalls, the reflecting material shall meet the following requirements: (1) The retroreflective material shall form a continuous circle on the rim. (2) If the retroreflective material is applied to the rim in the form of a self-adhesive tape, the following requirement must be met: Use a sharp knife, razor blade, or similar instrument to carefully release an end of the tape material sufficient to be grasped between the thumb and finger. Grasp the freed tape end and gradually pull in a direction 90° to the plane of the rim. The tape material must break before additional separation (peeling) from the rim is observed. (3) After the retroreflective material is abraded in accordance with the abrasion test for retroreflective rims at §1512.18(r), the rim must then be tested for performance in accordance with the retroreflective tire and rim test at §1512.18(o), to assure the reflectance properties over the angles given in table 3. Question One: Johnny is riding down the sidewalk on his bicycle. If his bicycle is is festooned with wheel-mounted side reflectors in accordance with the law, what is the color of the reflector in his front wheel? a. Amber b. Essentially Colorless c. Either a or b d. Neither a or b because Johnny is on a sidewalk bicycle e. None of the above because Johnny is breaking the law by riding his bicycle on the sidewalk and was taken down by the police. -- Jay Beattie. Is all that U.S.A. law or Ontario, Canada law? Cheers I don't think there is a U.S.A. law. I think in the states it's by the state as it's by the province in Canada. That said, amber is allowed in Quebec in some positions. 232. Every bicycle must carry (1) one white reflector at the front; (2) one red reflector at the rear; (3) one amber or white reflector on each pedal; (4) on the front wheel, an amber or white reflector attached to the spokes and visible on both sides of the bicycle, an amber or white reflective strip attached to each side of the fork, a tire with reflective sidewalls or a rim with a continuous reflective strip around the entire circumference of the wheel on both sides; and (5) on the back wheel, a red or white reflector attached to the spokes and visible on both sides of the bicycle, a red or white reflective strip on each seat stay, a tire with reflective sidewalls, or a rim with a continuous reflective strip around the entire circumference of the wheel on both sides. Despite the first paragraph, a bicycle need not carry the reflector required under subparagraph 3 of that paragraph if the cyclist wears a reflective band around each ankle or shoes with reflective strips. Any equipment or object placed on a bicycle that blocks a prescribed reflector or its substitute must carry a reflector or a reflective strip. A trailer towed by a bicycle must carry two red reflectors at the rear, as far apart as practicable, or a red reflective strip placed as close to horizontal as possible across the width of the trailer. 1986, c. 91, s. 232; 2010, c. 34, s. 45; 2018, c. 7, s. 43. OK I think I found it: https://www.cpsc.gov/Business--Manuf...-Requirements/ note link to subsection 1512.16: http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx...12_main_02.tpl Special note to fitness/performance crowd: "(1) A rider weighing at least 150 pounds must ride a bicycle at least 4 miles with the tires inflated to maximum recommended pressure. The rider must travel five times at a speed of at least 15 miles per hour over a 100 foot cleated course." Which seems to indicate a regulation of cyclists and cycling rather than actual hardware. I think you might have meant subsection 1512.18, although the verbiage in that section is not exactly as in your excerpt. It describes a testing procedure, not very rigorous, but neither completely ridiculous. Unless I am mistaken, all of the quoted US law prescribes minimum standards for bicycles offered for sale. The Canadian laws quoted seem to prescribe standards for bicycles as they are ridden on public ways. US states do have similar laws, although I have never lived anywhere that they are actually enforced. -- Yes, this is the Consumer Products Safety Commission's regulation relating to the sale of bicycles. The cite looks good: https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/16/1512.16 The typical UVC (Uniform Vehicle Code) provision states: 12-701-Application of chapter to bicycles No provision in this chapter shall apply to bicycles nor to equipment for use on bicycles except as to provisions in this article or unless a provision has been made specifically applicable to bicyclists, bicycles or their equipment. S 12-702-Headlight and taillight required at night Every bicycle in use at the times described in 12-201 shall be equipped with a headlight on the front emitting a white light visible from a distance of at least 500 feet to the front, and a taillight on the rear emitting a red light visible from a distance of at least 1000 feet to the rear. S 12-703-Rear reflector required at all times Every bicycle shall be equipped with a red reflector of a type approved by the department which shall be visible for 600 feet to the rear when directly in front of lawful lower beams of headlights on a motor vehicle. S 12-704Side reflector or light required at night Every bicycle when in use at the times described in S 12-201 shall be equipped with reflective material of sufficient size and reflectivity to be visible from both sides for 600 feet when directly in front of lawful lower beams of head lamps on a motor vehicle, or, in lieu of such reflective material, with a lighted lamp visible from both sides from a distance of at least 500 feet. S 12-705-Additional lights or reflectors authorized A bicycle or its rider may be equipped with lights or reflectors in addition to those required by the foregoing sections. These lights and/or reflectors may be LED or regular, steady or flashing, as long as they comply with the requirements or limitations of the department. S 12-706-Brake required Every bicycle shall be equipped with a brake or brakes which will enable its driver to stop the bicycle within 15 feet from a speed of 10 miles per hour on dry, level, clean pavement. S 12-707 Sirens, whistles prohibited No bicycle may be equipped with a siren or whistle. No person may use a siren or whistle when operating a bicycle. Most states have some version of this rule. In Oregon: https://www.oregonlaws.org/ors/815.280 I'm pushing for a rule in Oregon requiring fenders with a full rear flap. Rain is returning. And I want to repeal the no-siren rule. How is a cyclist to be truly conspicuous without a siren? -- Jay Beattie. |
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On Wednesday, October 3, 2018 at 3:08:20 PM UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:
I plead TLDR on this. It may or may not be in he https://www.cpsc.gov/Regulations-Law...ules/Bicycles/ or he https://www.federalregister.gov/docu...s-for-bicycles -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 I had no idea this is how the minimum insertion mark on a seatpost is set. § 1512.15 Requirements for seat. (b) Seat post. The seat post shall contain a permanent mark or ring that clearly indicates the minimum insertion depth (maximum seat-height adjustment); the mark shall not affect the structural integrity of the seat post. This mark shall be located no less than two seat-post diameters from the lowest point on the post shaft, and the post strength shall be maintained for at least a length of one shaft diameter below the mark. |
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On Wednesday, October 3, 2018 at 4:09:39 PM UTC-5, jbeattie wrote:
S 12-707 Sirens, whistles prohibited No bicycle may be equipped with a siren or whistle. No person may use a siren or whistle when operating a bicycle. I'm pushing for a rule in Oregon requiring fenders with a full rear flap. Rain is returning. And I want to repeal the no-siren rule. How is a cyclist to be truly conspicuous without a siren? -- Jay Beattie. How can they make it illegal to have a siren/horn on a bicycle, yet cars and motorcycles are required to have horns so drivers can blare them at cyclists? I am aware that fair and law are not related. |
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AMuzi wrote:
On 10/3/2018 2:44 PM, Duane wrote: On 03/10/2018 2:16 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Wednesday, October 3, 2018 at 12:16:07 PM UTC-4, jbeattie wrote: On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 2:04:27 PM UTC-7, Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 4:51:31 PM UTC-4, AMuzi wrote: On 10/2/2018 2:32 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 1:09:38 PM UTC-4, AMuzi wrote: On 10/2/2018 11:29 AM, jbeattie wrote: Snipped StVZO are job-killing regulations. Markets should be allowed to regulate light output. Die globalists, die! https://www.brooksengland.com/media/...1638b377e8.jpg -- Jay Beattie. Nice try but it's not safe. No Federally mandated CPSC wheel reflectors. Anything could happen! -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 #1. Is that Joerg's bicycle? #2. I see a wheel reflector on each wheel. Cheers Nice try but they're the old Amber, not the current Safety White. Danger! -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 Here they're supposed to be white on the front and red on the rear. Ditto for the safety reflective tape that's supposed to be applied to the front and rear forks. That's according to Ontario, Canada law. If cops were real sticklers to the requirements for bicycles there'ld be darn few Legal bicycles here on the roads. Cheers Cheers Amber or white are acceptable. Memorize this. There will be a test later. 16 CFR §1512.16 Requirements for reflectors. Bicycles shall be equipped with reflective devices to permit recognition and identification under illumination from motor vehicle headlamps. The use of reflector combinations off the center plane of the bicycle (defined in §1512.18(m)(2)) is acceptable if each reflector meets the requirements of this section and of §1512.18 (m) and (n) and the combination of reflectors has a clear field of view of ±10° vertically and ±50° horizontally. Sidewalk bicycles are not required to have reflectors. (a) Front, rear, and pedal reflectors. There shall be an essentially colorless front-facing reflector, essentially colorless or amber pedal reflectors, and a red rear-facing reflector. (b) Side reflectors. There shall be retroreflective tire sidewalls or, alternatively, reflectors mounted on the spokes of each wheel, or, for non-caliper rim brake bicycles, retroreflective wheel rims. The center of spoke-mounted reflectors shall be within 76 mm (3.0 in.) of the inside of the rim. Side reflective devices shall be visible on each side of the wheel. (c) Front reflector. The reflector or mount shall not contact the ground plane when the bicycle is resting on that plane in any orientation. The optical axis of the reflector shall be directed forward within 5° of the horizontal-vertical alignment of the bicycle when the wheels are tracking in a straight line, as defined in §1512.18(m)(2). The reflectors and/or mounts shall incorporate a distinct, preferred assembly method that shall insure that the reflector meets the optical requirements of this paragraph (c) when the reflector is attached to the bicycle. The front reflector shall be tested in accordance with the reflector mount and alignment test, §1512.18(m). (d) Rear reflector. The reflector or mount shall not contact the ground plane when the bicycle is resting on that plane in any orientation. The reflector shall be mounted such that it is to the rear of the seat mast with the top of the reflector at least 76 mm (3.0 in) below the point on the seat surface that is intersected by the line of the seat post. The optical axis of the reflector shall be directed rearward within 5° of the horizontal-vertical alignment of the bicycle when the wheels are traveling in a straight line, as defined in §1512.18(m)(2). The reflectors and/or mounts shall incorporate a distinct, preferred assembly method that shall insure that the reflector meets the optical requirements of this paragraph (d) when the reflector is attached to the bicycle. The rear reflector shall be tested in accordance with the reflector mount and alignment test, §1512.18(m). (e) Pedal reflectors. Each pedal shall have reflectors located on the front and rear surfaces of the pedal. The reflector elements may be either integral with the construction of the pedal or mechanically attached, but shall be sufficiently recessed from the edge of the pedal, or of the reflector housing, to prevent contact of the reflector element with a flat surface placed in contact with the edge of the pedal. (f) Side reflectors. Reflectors affixed to the wheel spokes shall be mounted either flat on the spokes or within the spoke cage such that the angle between the optical axis and the normal to the plane of the wheel shall not exceed the angle of the spokes with the plane of the wheel. The reflectors shall not interfere with any wheel adjustments. The side-mounted reflector devices shall be essentially colorless or amber on the front wheel and essentially colorless or red on the rear wheel. (g) Reflector tests. The pedal, front-mount, rear-mount, and side-mount reflectors shall be tested in accordance with the reflector test, §1512.18(n), to assure the reflectance values over the angles given in tables 1 and 2. (h) Retroreflective tire sidewalls. When retroreflective tire sidewalls are used in lieu of spoke-mounted reflectors, the reflecting material shall meet the following requirements: (1) The retroreflective material shall form a continuous circle on the sidewall. (2) The retroreflective material shall adhere to the tire such that after the tire has been subjected to a temperature of 50° ±3 °C (122° ±5.4 °F) for 30 minutes, the retroreflective material cannot be peeled or scraped away without removal of tire material. (3) The retroreflective material shall be as resistant to abrasion as is the adjacent sidewall material so that when retroreflective material is removed from the inflated tire by abrasion with a wet, steel bristle brush, tire material will be removed along with the retroreflective material. (4) The retroreflective material shall be tested for performance in accordance with the retroreflective tire test, §1512.18(o), to assure the reflectance properties over the angles given in table 3. When a portion of the retroreflective material is selected (and the remainder is masked as specified in §1512.18(o)(2)(i)), the selected portion shall not contact the ground plane when the assembled bicycle is resting on that plane in any orientation. (i) Retroreflective rims. When retroreflective rims are used in lieu of spoke-mounted reflectors or retroreflective tire sidewalls, the reflecting material shall meet the following requirements: (1) The retroreflective material shall form a continuous circle on the rim. (2) If the retroreflective material is applied to the rim in the form of a self-adhesive tape, the following requirement must be met: Use a sharp knife, razor blade, or similar instrument to carefully release an end of the tape material sufficient to be grasped between the thumb and finger. Grasp the freed tape end and gradually pull in a direction 90° to the plane of the rim. The tape material must break before additional separation (peeling) from the rim is observed. (3) After the retroreflective material is abraded in accordance with the abrasion test for retroreflective rims at §1512.18(r), the rim must then be tested for performance in accordance with the retroreflective tire and rim test at §1512.18(o), to assure the reflectance properties over the angles given in table 3. Question One: Johnny is riding down the sidewalk on his bicycle. If his bicycle is is festooned with wheel-mounted side reflectors in accordance with the law, what is the color of the reflector in his front wheel? a. Amber b. Essentially Colorless c. Either a or b d. Neither a or b because Johnny is on a sidewalk bicycle e. None of the above because Johnny is breaking the law by riding his bicycle on the sidewalk and was taken down by the police. -- Jay Beattie. Is all that U.S.A. law or Ontario, Canada law? Cheers I don't think there is a U.S.A. law. I think in the states it's by the state as it's by the province in Canada. That said, amber is allowed in Quebec in some positions. 232. Every bicycle must carry (1) one white reflector at the front; (2) one red reflector at the rear; (3) one amber or white reflector on each pedal; (4) on the front wheel, an amber or white reflector attached to the spokes and visible on both sides of the bicycle, an amber or white reflective strip attached to each side of the fork, a tire with reflective sidewalls or a rim with a continuous reflective strip around the entire circumference of the wheel on both sides; and (5) on the back wheel, a red or white reflector attached to the spokes and visible on both sides of the bicycle, a red or white reflective strip on each seat stay, a tire with reflective sidewalls, or a rim with a continuous reflective strip around the entire circumference of the wheel on both sides. Despite the first paragraph, a bicycle need not carry the reflector required under subparagraph 3 of that paragraph if the cyclist wears a reflective band around each ankle or shoes with reflective strips. Any equipment or object placed on a bicycle that blocks a prescribed reflector or its substitute must carry a reflector or a reflective strip. A trailer towed by a bicycle must carry two red reflectors at the rear, as far apart as practicable, or a red reflective strip placed as close to horizontal as possible across the width of the trailer. 1986, c. 91, s. 232; 2010, c. 34, s. 45; 2018, c. 7, s. 43. I plead TLDR on this. It may or may not be in he https://www.cpsc.gov/Regulations-Law...ules/Bicycles/ or he https://www.federalregister.gov/docu...s-for-bicycles The tubular tire section is hilarious. Thanks. I thought it was by state. -- duane |
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On Wednesday, October 3, 2018 at 3:00:11 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 10/3/2018 4:41 PM, wrote: On Wednesday, October 3, 2018 at 4:09:39 PM UTC-5, jbeattie wrote: S 12-707 Sirens, whistles prohibited No bicycle may be equipped with a siren or whistle. No person may use a siren or whistle when operating a bicycle. I'm pushing for a rule in Oregon requiring fenders with a full rear flap. Rain is returning. And I want to repeal the no-siren rule. How is a cyclist to be truly conspicuous without a siren? -- Jay Beattie. How can they make it illegal to have a siren/horn on a bicycle, yet cars and motorcycles are required to have horns so drivers can blare them at cyclists? I am aware that fair and law are not related. I have no idea. The usual scenario is that some major vendor of sirens or whatnot refuses to pay up during 'rulemaking'. I don't think such a vendor exists for bicycle sirens, so one guess is as good as another. And I should have said "law" and not "rule." CPSC makes rules. Legislatures pass traffic laws like the UVC. In either case, BIG SIREN is lurking in the background, manipulating legislators and administrators -- waiting to propose its mandatory siren rule to the CPSC and a multi-state model law for sirens on bicycles. Soon, sirens will be mandatory! BTW, regulation created some of the greatest of (former) American companies like Portland-based Freighliner. Those snub-nosed cab-over tractors were invented to maximize cargo space under the ICC/DOT regulations limiting tractor/trailer LOA. Every regulation creates a business opportunity. Regulations are job creators! -- Jay Beattie. |
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On Wednesday, October 3, 2018 at 6:17:26 PM UTC-5, jbeattie wrote:
BTW, regulation created some of the greatest of (former) American companies like Portland-based Freighliner. Those snub-nosed cab-over tractors were invented to maximize cargo space under the ICC/DOT regulations limiting tractor/trailer LOA. Every regulation creates a business opportunity. Regulations are job creators! -- Jay Beattie. I can see that. Use a longer trailer, haul more stuff, if you use a short cabover truck/engine. Only problem is you would then have different length trailers for cabover and engine in front trucks. Trailer manufacturers would not like that. They want uniformity. And all the shippers loading material into the trailers would have to adjust to loading a different volume in each trailer. |
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wrote: On Wednesday, October 3, 2018 at 6:17:26 PM UTC-5, jbeattie wrote: BTW, regulation created some of the greatest of (former) American companies like Portland-based Freighliner. Those snub-nosed cab-over tractors were invented to maximize cargo space under the ICC/DOT regulations limiting tractor/trailer LOA. Every regulation creates a business opportunity. Regulations are job creators! -- Jay Beattie. I can see that. Use a longer trailer, haul more stuff, if you use a short cabover truck/engine. Only problem is you would then have different length trailers for cabover and engine in front trucks. Trailer manufacturers would not like that. They want uniformity. And all the shippers loading material into the trailers would have to adjust to loading a different volume in each trailer. I think that in the U.S. trailer makers must produce trailers in varying lengths already as the overall length of the tractor - trailer unit varies considerable from state to state with New Hampshire and S. Carolina limiting overall length to 53 feet while Wyoming allows an 85 foot overall length. -- Cheers, John B. |
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John B. Slocomb wrote:
:On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 17:01:31 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: :On Wednesday, October 3, 2018 at 6:17:26 PM UTC-5, jbeattie wrote: : : BTW, regulation created some of the greatest of (former) American companies like Portland-based Freighliner. Those snub-nosed cab-over tractors were invented to maximize cargo space under the ICC/DOT regulations limiting tractor/trailer LOA. Every regulation creates a business opportunity. Regulations are job creators! : : -- Jay Beattie. : :I can see that. Use a longer trailer, haul more stuff, if you use a short cabover truck/engine. Only problem is you would then have different length trailers for cabover and engine in front trucks. Trailer manufacturers would not like that. They want uniformity. And all the shippers loading material into the trailers would have to adjust to loading a different volume in each trailer. :I think that in the U.S. trailer makers must produce trailers in :varying lengths already as the overall length of the tractor - trailer :unit varies considerable from state to state with New Hampshire and S. :Carolina limiting overall length to 53 feet while Wyoming allows an 85 :foot overall length. 53 foot is a standard single trailer. Combination trailers use shorter trailers, typically 28 feet, six inches long, with some variation. Trucking companies like combination vehicles for a variety of reasons, not least it lets one tractor pull more stuff. But also the individual pups are more flexible, if you are delivering or picking up multiple at the same location, each one can be put its own dock door, and loaded or unloaded in parallel; a single pup can be used for urban delivery service, and it makes cross country routing a bit easier. That's van trucks. other stuff follows their own rules, some of it highly specialized. -- Movable type was evidently a fad. --Amanda Walker |
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