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a cage creature observation
Kevan Smith /\/\ wrote:
I often ride to my LBS from my house, taking the same 7-mile route each time. When I am all spandexed out and on my racing bike, cage creatures give me room on the road, seldom yell, and, in general, treat me well. But, when I am on my ATB, outfitted in normal clothes, I get heaps of abuse -- cars pass way too close, people yell, etc. Nothing changes but the bike and clothing. I find this odd. I have noticed some of the same behaviors with my commuter bike vs. my grocery shopping bike. I'll be riding the same roads right near my house. Riding the same way, often at the same speeds (assuming I don't have twenty pound sacks of rice in my baskets). Yet I get a lot more honking, swearing, and bad behavior from motorists. -- Dane Jackson - z u v e m b i @ u n i x b i g o t s . o r g You cannot run Windows innocently. Guilt of aiding & abetting, at the very least, is automatic. Loading up on anti-virus and firewall software, even decent ones, are merely well-meaning actions to be taken into consideration by judge and jury when deciding your sentence. -- David P. Murphy from Scary Devil Monastery |
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Kevan Smith wrote in message ... But, when I am on my ATB, outfitted in normal clothes, I get heaps of abuse -- cars pass way too close, people yell, etc. Nothing changes but the bike and clothing. I find this odd. Now you know why FREDS like Zoot are so bitter and have such a bad attitude. One question, why get on a ATB in normal clothes in the first place? When guys like Cipollini and Me aren't out training we are seen in the Tuscany region on stuff like Honda's 16-valve DOHC inline-four cylinder CBR 1100XX with the 42mm slanted flat-slide CV-type Carburetors. Save the lame ATB for the poor people like F. Golighty. |
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"Tom Keats" wrote in message ... In article , writes: I have noticed some of the same behaviors with my commuter bike vs. my grocery shopping bike. I'll be riding the same roads right near my house. Riding the same way, often at the same speeds (assuming I don't have twenty pound sacks of rice in my baskets). Yet I get a lot more honking, swearing, and bad behavior from motorists. Appearing to be engaged in a leisure-time avocation is one thing. Riders obviously on "training rides" are innocuous in the eyes of motorized road users. Maybe nuisances, at the worst. But to [appear to] use a bicycle for real, practical functionality is an insult -- maybe even a threat to the more fundamentalist adherents to Car Culture, who are extremely protective and defensive of their sacred cow's (The Automobile) place in society. Iconoclasts (ideophages?) have to expect some reactionism. Practical cycling also exposes riders to poor-bashing. That's my intuitive guess, anyway. cheers, Tom Here is another thought; lycra clad, high dollar bike riding guys, probably can afford a lawyer. Now, mountain bikes are expensive, but cheap knock offs are plentiful, and they are not easily distinguished at 60 mph. IME the people you see around here on mountain bikes on the roadare either kids or that can't afford, or aren't allowed to drive. In short cannot afford a lawyer, or get respect from the police. Just a thought. Len |
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When I take out the Rocket-----my bike with a full front fairing and a 6-foot long, streamlined fiberglass trailer and wear my streamlined helmet, drivers give me plenty of room and courtesy. But when riding a plain bicycle, I often feel like a cock pheasant on opening day. It's a whole different world on the roads without my special rig and I'm fair game for the drivers' rudeness. When I finish my recumbent tricycle with quadraped lever drive, a front fairing and a streamlined cargo box and tow the trailer, I wonder what my status will be? Steve McDonald |
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In article ,
Kevan Smith /\/\ writes: Man, you are like the greatest ever. Thanks for helping me regain my perspective. I don't know what I was thinking. Thanks, man. Whudda toady! cheers, Tom -- -- Powered by FreeBSD Above address is just a spam midden. I'm really at: tkeats [curlicue] vcn [point] bc [point] ca |
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In article , Kevan Smith
/\/\ says... On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 12:57:09 -0400, David Kerber from Warren Rogers Associates wrote: In article , Kevan Smith /\/\ says... I often ride to my LBS from my house, taking the same 7-mile route each time. When I am all spandexed out and on my racing bike, cage creatures give me room on the road, seldom yell, and, in general, treat me well. But, when I am on my ATB, outfitted in normal clothes, I get heaps of abuse -- cars pass way too close, people yell, etc. Nothing changes but the bike and clothing. I find this odd. Are these different conditions also at different times of the day or week? You might be seeing (for example) one batch of drivers when you're in your "roadie" clothes during the day, and a different batch on the weekends when you're on the MTB. Just a thought... Same times and places. Doesn't matter. The racer getup gets "respect," and the commuter non-look gets abuse. Interesting. I haven't noticed that phenomenon, though I'll keep my eye out for it to see if we might have it around here but at a lesser level. -- Dave Kerber Fight spam: remove the ns_ from the return address before replying! REAL programmers write self-modifying code. |
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Fabrizio Mazzoleni wrote:
When guys like Cipollini and Me aren't out training In your dreams. --Bill Davidson -- Please remove ".nospam" from my address for email replies. I'm a 17 year veteran of usenet -- you'd think I'd be over it by now |
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Tue, 09 Sep 2003 22:04:51 GMT,
, tastelessly, "Fabrizio Mazzoleni" admitted: When guys like Cipollini and Me aren't out training we are seen in the Tuscany region on stuff like Honda's Pros like you and Mario should be riding Ducati's Testasretta SuperBike 998 with those gorgeous Marchesini wheels. Or something manly like the Moto Guzzi V11 Sport Ballabio. Leave the Hondas and Harleys for amateurs. -- zk |
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Steve McDonald wrote: When I finish my recumbent tricycle with quadraped lever drive, a front fairing and a streamlined cargo box and tow the trailer, I wonder what my status will be? -------------------------------------------------------------------- Kevan Smith proclaimed: Full Fred-dom. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Actually, it was a guy named Fred who first got me started riding quadraped recumbents. I believe he was the original "Fred" who inspired this generic Fabbrizic handle, so disparagingly applied these days. It was once a respected thing, to be a Fred. Steve McDonald |
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Bill Davidson wrote:
Fabrizio Mazzoleni wrote: When guys like Cipollini and Me aren't out training In your dreams. Uh, duh. It seems pretty factual to me anyway, as Mario said he hasn't been out training for several months, on retiring from the Vuelta. |
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