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  #831  
Old April 10th 07, 04:49 AM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,rec.autos.driving,alt.planning.urban,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides
Dave Head
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On Mon, 09 Apr 2007 22:31:55 -0500, Tim McNamara wrote:

In article ,
Dave Head wrote:

On Mon, 09 Apr 2007 17:35:26 -0700, "Fred G. Mackey"
wrote:

I had a good laugh at a few of these people last winter as I drove
by them in my coupe while they were either stuck - either because
they couldn't manage to control their "lame ass SUV" or because they
thought their SUV was tough enough to make it through deep snow that
hadn't yet been plowed and found out the hard way how "lame ass"
their SUV really is.


Next big snow, U bring your coupe, I'll bring my Jeep Cherokee with
the all terrain tires, and we'll see who gets stuck.


You just identified one of the key things: tires. Most any car will
deal with snow just fine unless it's riding on unsuitable tires.


And its the main reason you can't do what the anti-SUV'ers suggest, which is to
rent one when you need one. The rentals all have smooth tires, and you then
get stuck anyway, 4WD or not.

DPH
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  #832  
Old April 10th 07, 04:54 AM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,rec.autos.driving,alt.planning.urban,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides
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Why is it we can spend $100 Billion on building Iraq, but not $2
billion
on
our own nation?

Our own nation is not New Orleans,

New Oreans IS part of the United States.

we already sunk millions into that place,
most of the people there are not willing to even help themselves.

Most of the people there CANNOT help themselves - the System has made

sure
of that -- and Continues to make sure of that.

This is a good example of the liberal mentality, after all these years

they
still think they can pick up a turd by the clean end. Any person or

group
can help inprove their own status, it takes a little ambition, a little
patience, and a lot of work, 3 things that are missing in places like

New
Orleans. The "system" you are referring to is the very system you are
promoting. You think the solution to any problem is to throw more

money
at
it, especially someone else's money.


What's "liberal" about taking care of your own people instead of

throwing
away our tax money on Iraqi's who hate us?


Because we've already spent millions down there, it was mostly all
squandered to waste and corruption with very little noticeable results.

And Billions have been squandered to waste an corruption in Iraq - with
NEGATIVE results.



  #833  
Old April 10th 07, 04:56 AM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,rec.autos.driving,alt.planning.urban,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides
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Do stay on track - the issue is whether we spend hundreds of billions of
dollars on Iraqi's or whether we spend a tenth of that on our own

people.

(and yes, there are reports that elections are not particularly fair in
LA.)


Then why did you bring up your feeling that the people of Louisiana are
somehow downtrodden in a way that Mississippians aren't?


Your question is nonsensical.

What does the
amount of money we are spending in Iraq have to do with urban planning,

when
you get down to it?

This has got to be Ideological Ignorance.


  #834  
Old April 10th 07, 04:57 AM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,rec.autos.driving,alt.planning.urban,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides
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On Sun, 8 Apr 2007 17:41:56 -0700, "Baxter"
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Gamblers excuse. We need to recognize it's past time to cut our losses -
we'll come out ahead in the long run.

The US took on a responsibility to those who cooperated with it after
the invasion. How it treats those people may determine how US troops
are treated in the future. Many people are risking their lives daily
to make Iraq work. I for one don't want to see them left to the
tender mercies of the various groups directing the suicide bombers.


Still the Gamblers Excuse. It's past time for surgery.


  #835  
Old April 10th 07, 12:54 PM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,rec.autos.driving,alt.planning.urban,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides
george conklin
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"Dave Head" wrote in message
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On Mon, 09 Apr 2007 22:31:55 -0500, Tim McNamara
wrote:

In article ,
Dave Head wrote:

On Mon, 09 Apr 2007 17:35:26 -0700, "Fred G. Mackey"
wrote:

I had a good laugh at a few of these people last winter as I drove
by them in my coupe while they were either stuck - either because
they couldn't manage to control their "lame ass SUV" or because they
thought their SUV was tough enough to make it through deep snow that
hadn't yet been plowed and found out the hard way how "lame ass"
their SUV really is.

Next big snow, U bring your coupe, I'll bring my Jeep Cherokee with
the all terrain tires, and we'll see who gets stuck.


You just identified one of the key things: tires. Most any car will
deal with snow just fine unless it's riding on unsuitable tires.


And its the main reason you can't do what the anti-SUV'ers suggest, which
is to
rent one when you need one. The rentals all have smooth tires, and you
then
get stuck anyway, 4WD or not.

DPH


I've never seen a rental car with worn-out tires.


  #836  
Old April 10th 07, 12:56 PM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,rec.autos.driving,alt.planning.urban,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides
Dave Head
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On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 11:54:27 GMT, "george conklin" wrote:


"Dave Head" wrote in message
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On Mon, 09 Apr 2007 22:31:55 -0500, Tim McNamara
wrote:

In article ,
Dave Head wrote:

On Mon, 09 Apr 2007 17:35:26 -0700, "Fred G. Mackey"
wrote:

I had a good laugh at a few of these people last winter as I drove
by them in my coupe while they were either stuck - either because
they couldn't manage to control their "lame ass SUV" or because they
thought their SUV was tough enough to make it through deep snow that
hadn't yet been plowed and found out the hard way how "lame ass"
their SUV really is.

Next big snow, U bring your coupe, I'll bring my Jeep Cherokee with
the all terrain tires, and we'll see who gets stuck.

You just identified one of the key things: tires. Most any car will
deal with snow just fine unless it's riding on unsuitable tires.


And its the main reason you can't do what the anti-SUV'ers suggest, which
is to
rent one when you need one. The rentals all have smooth tires, and you
then
get stuck anyway, 4WD or not.

DPH


I've never seen a rental car with worn-out tires.

They're not worn-out, they're "all season", which, in deep snow, are about as
useful as tits on a boar hog.

DPH
  #837  
Old April 10th 07, 01:56 PM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,rec.autos.driving,alt.planning.urban,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides
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"Amy Blankenship" wrote in message
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"Baxter" wrote in message
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Do stay on track - the issue is whether we spend hundreds of billions
of
dollars on Iraqi's or whether we spend a tenth of that on our own

people.

(and yes, there are reports that elections are not particularly fair in
LA.)


Then why did you bring up your feeling that the people of Louisiana are
somehow downtrodden in a way that Mississippians aren't?


Your question is nonsensical.


Obviously you don't have an answer then.


  #838  
Old April 10th 07, 04:20 PM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,rec.autos.driving,alt.planning.urban,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides
Matthew T. Russotto
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In article ,
Baxter wrote:

"Matthew T. Russotto" wrote in message
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In article ,
Baxter wrote:
"Matthew T. Russotto" wrote in message
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In article ,
Baxter wrote:

Why is it we can spend $100 Billion on building Iraq, but not $2

billion
on
our own nation?

Be happy about that -- do you really want even 2% of the **** that's
going on in Iraq?

I want us OUT of Iraq, and building our OWN country.


"Whoosh!" That's the sound of the point flying over your head.

You have no point. You are simply trying to distract from the issue. The
issue is whether we spend hundreds of billions of dollars on Iraqi's or
whether we spend a tenth of that on our own people.


The point is that with all that money the US government spent in Iraq,
all it has done is **** that country up. Why do you think if the
government spent a tenth or a fiftieth of it here, it wouldn't **** it
up just as badly?
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  #839  
Old April 10th 07, 04:21 PM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,rec.autos.driving,alt.planning.urban,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides
Matthew T. Russotto
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Default Iraq responsibility was promoting "smart growth"

In article ,
Clark F Morris wrote:

The US took on a responsibility to those who cooperated with it after
the invasion. How it treats those people may determine how US troops
are treated in the future. Many people are risking their lives daily
to make Iraq work. I for one don't want to see them left to the
tender mercies of the various groups directing the suicide bombers.


Iraq can't work. As soon as the US leaves, the civil war will heat up
full time and continue until some group hostile to the US comes out on
top. This is inevitable, unless the US maintains the occupation
indefinitely.

--
There's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can
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  #840  
Old April 10th 07, 06:56 PM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,rec.autos.driving,alt.planning.urban,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides
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"Matthew T. Russotto" wrote in message
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In article ,
Baxter wrote:

"Matthew T. Russotto" wrote in message
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In article ,
Baxter wrote:
"Matthew T. Russotto" wrote in message
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In article ,
Baxter wrote:

Why is it we can spend $100 Billion on building Iraq, but not $2

billion
on
our own nation?

Be happy about that -- do you really want even 2% of the **** that's
going on in Iraq?

I want us OUT of Iraq, and building our OWN country.

"Whoosh!" That's the sound of the point flying over your head.

You have no point. You are simply trying to distract from the issue.

The
issue is whether we spend hundreds of billions of dollars on Iraqi's or
whether we spend a tenth of that on our own people.


The point is that with all that money the US government spent in Iraq,
all it has done is **** that country up. Why do you think if the
government spent a tenth or a fiftieth of it here, it wouldn't **** it
up just as badly?


Your "point" is bull****. If your wife was sending all your money to Darfur
and neglecting your kids you'd be ****ed. Same principle applies here.

And your characterization that the "government" can't help people is
Ideological and not supported by facts.


 




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