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russell said
So you will have to increase your weekly mileage from 200 to 280 and make sure you are riding racer fast for all of those miles to take off 1 pound a week. Actually it is not the speed that burns calories at all it is energy spent over distance. time is not a factor. Weight and fitness are, thus efficiency with an aerobically fit body is easier. If you walk briskly one mile or jog it Same calories burned. Sprinting is actually anaerobic and you burn muscle energy first and then the fat. Lasts 20 minutes maybe after that it is aerobic energy. BTW. Get a good book I would not listen to half the things people are saying here. they could give you a heart attack |
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ackfugue says...
So, then I started doing the same, and as hard as I ride, and as far as I ride, it has done NOTHING to change my weight, and I am getting, frankly, quite depressed. No pain, no gain? Well, I have done the pain and showed little gain, except a fatter ass. I'm going out, riding at least 200 miles a week with no results. Sure, my legs feel like wrought iron underneath the layer of fat that encases it all. My stomach keeps sneaking a little more outwardly pudge everytime I look in the mirror. I weigh myself everyday looking for results and find none. I rode 100 miles this past Saturday, and when I got home, I lost about 4 or 5 lbs. I was just shy over 190. Then, I weigh myself today, and I am just under 200. What the HECK is going on?? I'm wondering if most of that is water gain. I mean, I felt like I couldn't get enough to drink the past few days, and with all the liquid I am drinking, you'd think I would be ****ing like Niagara Falls. Nope.. Just a tinkle here and a tinkle there. So, my body must be absorbing it like a sponge and storing it all up. For one thing, 200 miles per week is a lot of riding. How long have you been at it and how long is your typical ride? One of the key things that exercise does besides burn calories is build muscle. If you lose fat but gain muscle, you may not see much change in scale weight over the short term. This is well documented and repeated over and over by fitness gurus. Another thing that may be at work is that if you don't give yourself rest days two or three times a week, you can get into over-training mode where the muscles don't have enough time to recover enough between rides and therefore do not grow as fast as they might. Weight loss researchers are learning is that the body resists changes in weight. Some doctor might be able to explain why, but basically what that means is that the first part of a weight loss program is usually the slowest to show results. Beware of dieting buzz words. Ten years ago we were all going to be skinny by cutting out fat. When I told the tubby women I worked with that one could also gain weight by eating too much carbs, they basically said I was an idiot. Then lo and behold a few years later fat didn't matter. It was all in the carbs. Now that's dead too. After each fad diet dies of apathy, a few doctors will come out and say that cutting total calories is the only way to lose weight and both carbs and fat have calories. But a diet that leans more toward carbs than fat makes more sense for fitness oriented people, because that is what muscles burn during strenuous exercise and what they need to recover quickly. Basically, I think you are on the right track. If your 200 miles a week is 30 miles every day, consider going to 45 miles every other day to incorporate some recovery time. Count calories if you want to, but it is a chore to keep up with it all every day. But the low tech way is to just let yourself go hungry part of the day. I truly believe that if we are never hungry, then we will never be thin. You probably just need more time to see the results you want. |
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On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 18:00:23 -0400, Barnard Frederick
wrote: [---] But the low tech way is to just let yourself go hungry part of the day. I truly believe that if we are never hungry, then we will never be thin. That's also been my experience. I've never been successful in losing weight without a sensation of hunger from time to time. I've yet to find the miracle "filler" which will still that feeling of hunger, without throwing on calories which turn into fat, usually, as someone else noted, on the stomach! |
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Fat weighs less than muscle. Soft fat less dangerous than hard. Actually, one pound of fat weighs the same as one pound of muscle. Do you mean that fat is less dense than muscle? Drink water before you are thirsty. Aerobic activity burns fat better than any other exercise. Stretch before and after a ride. regular better than sporadic and weekend warriors program. Heart rate is best indicator to see if you are impoving and maintaining aerobic fitness. Any fitness book can teach you the basics about monitoring your heart rate. (no equipment needed alas) I think it is 75% max 3-4 times a week. See your Doctor to appove any program if you are over 55 or have a medical condition. 220- your age is your Max heart Rate. I think, actually, they just changed that to 200- your age. Am I right? I don't think so, or I go above my max on every ride. The max HR I've seen so far this year is 186, and I'm 42. Take your vitamins. Eat raw fruit and vegables more or only. Fills you up, 100% nutritious and no fat, transfat content. Prevents Cancer as well as letting your stomach do what it was made for. Be alert however, too much a good thing is still bad. Fibre can actually cause intestinal complications too. I agree with this. Less is More. Moderation is key. Think Thin. Lock the Fridge haha Not get movin' You do not need a fitness coach but it is easier to exercise in groups if you are unmotivated. The latest thing is a video game by CATEYE attached to an exercise bike. They had people staying on the thing for 3 hours and had to be told to get off. hahaha Might be worth looking into It is on sale somewhere i know. cheers Shirley Bob -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ |
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On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 13:31:09 -0400, wrote:
[cut] To lose weight you must reduce the number of calories you consume. Exercising is great and fun and should be done too. But you have to reduce the calories you consume to lose weight. You have to run roughly a 3,500 calorie deficit to lose 1 pound. So to lose 1 pound a week, you have to eat 500 fewer calories a day than you burn. I think a Big Mac has a bit over 500 calories. So for lunch you could skip the Big Mac and just eat the french fries, and diet Coke. My vote mould be to skip the fries, and opt for something like a Big mac hold the cheese and hold the sauce. These two ingredients are calorie packed and don't contribute to your feeling of fullness too much. Just unecessary excess. The fries IMO are the worst choice. They are almost as many calories as the big mac, lots of fats, and high GI carbs, essentially zero protein. They also are fried in trans-fat containing oil (typically), and trans-fats are very, very bad. I'm sure what types of food have some impact on weight loss. Maybe eating all fat or all protein or all carbohydrates matters some. But a balanced diet of healtyhy foods is probalby best for most people. And in the end no matter what types of calories you consume, the key aspect is eating fewer calories than you burn. You also have to stay on your diet/meal plan forever to keep the weight off. Reducing weight permanently involves a permanent lifestyle change. A permanent change in your eating habits. Indeed permanent lifestyle changes and an all-arounbd healthy diet are the ideal. But it is also important find an acheivable balance where you phase in these changes. Otherwise you end up falling off the wagon too much and not getting anywhere. The main idea behind the low-carb diets is that most carbs are absorbed into the blood faster than they can be used up, so the body quickly converts the excess into fat before you have even had a chance to use them. So a cookie binge adds lots of calories to your system, but since a large number of them get converted to fat right away, you get hungry again soon, and have more cookies. A diet with lower carbs takes longer to digest and is available for energy over a longer time, so the body doesn't convert as much of it to fat right away. So the satiated feeling lasts longer and the craving for sweets goes away which in turn makes it easier to achieve healthy diet changes. One of the problems people facing weight loss issues is that the prospect of huge life-long changes to the diet is daunting and seems insurmaountable. For me the trick was to take it step by step in small increments. My diet today is quite healthy, and a far cry from my heaviest period, but I could not have just gone "cold turkey" to my current diet. Phasing into it is what has made it approachable. Good luck! Joseph I'm on a low carb diet and have been for quite a while. Low carb doesn't mean "no carb" -- you can still eat fruits and vegetables. You just don't eat breads (except rarely, of course), desserts, rice, pasta, etc. Today, I rode 17 miles (my "easy" ride -- not because of the distance but because of the relative lack of hills) and had eggs, bacon, fruit, raw vegetables, and sandwiches (w/low carb tortillas). Bob -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ |
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ackfugue wrote:
I'm sure this question has been asked a million and one times, but I am desperate. Between my childhood, into my teens and into my 20s, I was at an ideal weight. I'm 6 feet tall. I used to be all of about 145 lbs in my early teens, then worked up to about 155 and to 160. I was always active, always outdoors, always playing sports. I won 3 physical fitness awards from elem. school into middle school. In high school, I was in track & field. My friends and I played football in the street practically everyday. I got into biking in my late teens, but not seriously, just for exercise. In my 20s, my activity was going out to the nightclubs and dancing 2 or 3 times a week, for 6 hours a night. Then, I entered my 30s and things went down hill from there. My jobs pretty much made me sedentary like so many other Americans, and I could no longer just eat whatever I wanted to and get away with it. I guess you could say, what people told me finally came true: my matobilism finally caught up up me and ran on past me. I saw so many of my friends turn to cycling to lose the weight. Some of them surpassed me in weight by MANY lbs. As soon as they began cycling, they became virtual tooth-picks! I couldn't believe me eyes. I still can't. "What is your secret?" "What diet are you on?" ... "Nothing, I just started bicycling." So, then I started doing the same, and as hard as I ride, and as far as I ride, it has done NOTHING to change my weight, and I am getting, frankly, quite depressed. No pain, no gain? Well, I have done the pain and showed little gain, except a fatter ass. I'm going out, riding at least 200 miles a week with no results. Sure, my legs feel like wrought iron underneath the layer of fat that encases it all. My stomach keeps sneaking a little more outwardly pudge everytime I look in the mirror. I weigh myself everyday looking for results and find none. I rode 100 miles this past Saturday, and when I got home, I lost about 4 or 5 lbs. I was just shy over 190. Then, I weigh myself today, and I am just under 200. What the HECK is going on?? I'm wondering if most of that is water gain. I mean, I felt like I couldn't get enough to drink the past few days, and with all the liquid I am drinking, you'd think I would be ****ing like Niagara Falls. Nope.. Just a tinkle here and a tinkle there. So, my body must be absorbing it like a sponge and storing it all up. And I am finding it hard to believe that my friends (not really CLOSE friends) are doing NOTHING aside from cycling. They must be dieting, also. But as much as I tell myself that I will not eat a tall cheeseburger and fries after a hard ride, it just doesn't happen. The bad side always wins. It is SOOO hard when my body is hanging on by a thread after a long ride in the saddle. The odd thing is, with all the cycling I have been doing lately I can't sit down and eat a large meal. What I used to pack away before, I can no longer do. Value meals, etc. Whatever - I eat about half of it and I throw the rest away because I feel full. But, even though I am eating half the portion that I used to, I am NOT losing weight. At this point, I don't know what to do. I'll keep on cycling because I love doing it. I just want to know: Is water gain a real issue, and does it affect how my body breaks down solids? Is there a "biker's diet" that I can follow that will help me lose the weight and yet feel as full as if I bit into a steak & cheese sub or a slice of pizza? I need a sensible solution. I keep reading how complex carbs are important for athleticism, but where do I draw the line? How many complex carbs are too much? Maybe I am just eating the wrong kinds of carbs after a day in the saddle. I pretty much feel like I am gaining back everything I burn off in a matter of one or two days, and more! HELP! You need to eat less. See: http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/Mis...otdiffere.html -- Scott Johnson / scottjohnson at kc dot rr dot com |
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Barnard Frederick wrote: is a chore to keep up with it all every day. But the low tech way is to just let yourself go hungry part of the day. I truly believe that if we are never hungry, then we will never be thin. Very true. You must make a friend of that "hungry" feeling... it is actually enjoyable once you get used to it... probably much easier for most to enjoy than the "pain" of a hard workout. Many are conditioned to interpret a mere sense of stomach emptiness as hunger, so that we never even experience the real thing. |
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Yes I mean density. You can still get thin and stay the same weight which
is when people like the OP get frustrated about it. As long as muscle is replacing the fat and you gain even more muscle mass you could end up weighing more. Depends how much your body can amass. "Bob in CT" wrote in message news Fat weighs less than muscle. Soft fat less dangerous than hard. Actually, one pound of fat weighs the same as one pound of muscle. Do you mean that fat is less dense than muscle? Drink water before you are thirsty. Aerobic activity burns fat better than any other exercise. Stretch before and after a ride. regular better than sporadic and weekend warriors program. Heart rate is best indicator to see if you are impoving and maintaining aerobic fitness. Any fitness book can teach you the basics about monitoring your heart rate. (no equipment needed alas) I think it is 75% max 3-4 times a week. See your Doctor to appove any program if you are over 55 or have a medical condition. 220- your age is your Max heart Rate. I think, actually, they just changed that to 200- your age. Am I right? I don't think so, or I go above my max on every ride. The max HR I've seen so far this year is 186, and I'm 42. Take your vitamins. Eat raw fruit and vegables more or only. Fills you up, 100% nutritious and no fat, transfat content. Prevents Cancer as well as letting your stomach do what it was made for. Be alert however, too much a good thing is still bad. Fibre can actually cause intestinal complications too. I agree with this. Less is More. Moderation is key. Think Thin. Lock the Fridge haha Not get movin' You do not need a fitness coach but it is easier to exercise in groups if you are unmotivated. The latest thing is a video game by CATEYE attached to an exercise bike. They had people staying on the thing for 3 hours and had to be told to get off. hahaha Might be worth looking into It is on sale somewhere i know. cheers Shirley Bob -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ |
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and had eggs, bacon, fruit, raw vegetables,
and sandwiches (w/low carb tortillas). Was that breakfast or all day? Wish I could eat that little in a day. |
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