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Future of Unicycle Road Racing (here's what I think; what do you think?)
I love how these sport has grown in the short period of time I've been participating in it. Chuck, I agree with virtually everything you've said, except the self-degrading parts. I'm humbled by your humility. What's exiting about this, is that events like RTL are CHANGING THE WAY PEOPLE PERCEIVE UNICYCLING. I think our sport is attracting more atheletes as people discover what is becoming possible. We are being taken more seriously as a sport. Regarding the 29er vs. 36er thing, I don't think we should get too caught up in that debate as it has been discussed ad-nauseum in other threads. Obviously there are advantages both ways. My personal preference would be for a bigger lighter wheel, but I'm not the one pushing the envelope. At RTL, the 36er GUni riders raised the bar and the 29er GUni riders underscored it. The biggest gear is the fastest (at least with what's currently available). Regarding different categories and having respect for the ungeared records; I think there's no doubt that people respect the accomplishments that have been done ungeared. In RTL, my team (Totally Doable) did battle with the Lost Wheelers (fastest 100% ungeared team). I think there's little doubt that we wouldn't have beat them had we been on the same equipment. They we better athletes. I think ungeared records will always be noted and respected. Still, geared unicycles are STILL UNICYCLES even if less traditional. This is to say that a world record held on a geared unicycle is 100% valid as a unicycle record. That being said, I think ongoing records will noted as geared or ungeared. People will still be interested in what the ungeared records are even as they are unsurped by GUnis. -- mscalisi Unicycle for (reducing the) Buddha ------------------------------------------------------------------------ mscalisi's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/4961 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/71871 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Future of Unicycle Road Racing (here's what I think; what do you think?)
I agree with almost everything said here except the fact that a category 1 racer would be a faster unicyclist. Chuck you may not be beat by a category 1 racer even though you think otherwise. It is not just the power and speed needed to spin the cranks it's also being able to do this without loosing balance and having the courage to do it. Not everyone can be an excellent cyclist like Lance Armstrong and today not everyone can be an excellent unicyclist like Chuck no matter what anyone says. -- hectorqlucero ------------------------------------------------------------------------ hectorqlucero's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/14817 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/71871 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Future of Unicycle Road Racing (here's what I think; what do you think?)
hectorqlucero wrote: I agree with almost everything said here except the fact that a category 1 racer would be a faster unicyclist. Chuck you may not be beat by a category 1 racer even though you think otherwise. It is not just the power and speed needed to spin the cranks it's also being able to do this without loosing balance and having the courage to do it. Not everyone can be an excellent cyclist like Lance Armstrong and today not everyone can be an excellent unicyclist like Chuck no matter what anyone says. -- rolandisimo ------------------------------------------------------------------------ rolandisimo's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/13769 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/71871 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Future of Unicycle Road Racing (here's what I think; what do you think?)
hectorqlucero wrote: I agree with almost everything said here except the fact that a category 1 racer would be a faster unicyclist. Chuck you may not be beat by a category 1 racer even though you think otherwise. It is not just the power and speed needed to spin the cranks it's also being able to do this without loosing balance and having the courage to do it. Not everyone can be an excellent cyclist like Lance Armstrong and today not everyone can be an excellent unicyclist like Chuck no matter what anyone says. Very good written! I think that with unicycling it is more than just your max oxygen recorded that counts. Unicycling have even more factor that counts than perhaps any other sports. Balance, speed, toughness, power... And I think that you Chuck, probably could be a World Champion in many other sports. Congratulations! -- unijuul www.unijuul.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ unijuul's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/13774 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/71871 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Future of Unicycle Road Racing (here's what I think; what do you think?)
Very good work Chuck, I'll add my thoughts when I have some more time, untill then can everyone please check this? http://eenwiel.nl/index.php?menuid=59&pageid=162 It's all the geared and ungeared unlimited records (except for the 2008 female records), if everyone is OK with this layout I will translate it to English, but I'm sure everyone will understand what it says, as it's just times and distance. Combined, all the fastest times including geared AND ungeared. Geared, all the fastest times ridden on geared unicycles, including the Unicon 13 fastest geared times and Pete Perron's hour record. Ungeared, all the fastest Ungeared times. Cheers, Dustin -- DustinSchaap DUTCH UNICYCLIST COMMUNITY: EENWIEL.NL (\"HTTP://EENWIEL.NL\") SPONSORS: MUNICYCLE.COM (\"HTTP://WWW.EINRADLADEN.NET/SHOP/INDEX.PHP/LANGUAGE/EN\") AND QU-AX (\"HTTP://QU-AX.COM/\") *Ah, but can you compress your tire like this?* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ DustinSchaap's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/12614 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/71871 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Future of Unicycle Road Racing (here's what I think; what do you think?)
DustinSchaap wrote: ...can everyone please check this? http://eenwiel.nl/index.php?menuid=59&pageid=162 I'm not sure this is a problem, but the 24-hour records show "m" (for miles?), and I believe those records are in km. Also, don't know if this is possible, buyt it would be great to see the equipment (wheel-size, gearing, etc.) used for each of the records. -- steveyo steveyo ...like having your own personal rollercoaster... - a few 'uni race write-ups' (http://home.nycap.rr.com/rduhan/uni_race_writeups/) - muni and kokopelli uni 't-shirts, mugs and stickers' (http://www.cafepress.com/steveyo) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ steveyo's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/7228 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/71871 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Future of Unicycle Road Racing (here's what I think; what do you think?)
How does a world record apply to the marathon if it is held on the road with variable terrain/elevation changes from year to year? Can't the course change a lot from year to year? -- siafirede 'DCuni' (http://www.dcuni.com/blog) - my blog about Unicycling in Washington DC, Virginia, Maryland *James* = my name | 'Myspace' (http://www.myspace.com/clawsout) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ siafirede's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/6057 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/71871 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Future of Unicycle Road Racing (here's what I think; what do you think?)
steveyo wrote: I'm not sure this is a problem, but the 24-hour records show "m" (for miles?), and I believe those records are in km. Also, don't know if this is possible, buyt it would be great to see the equipment (wheel-size, gearing, etc.) used for each of the records. it's euro writing - the . in the number is the same as our , and the m means metres. so what they are writing is 453,800 metres for Sam's world record. Also, one thing about the geared records - do we really want to count any record at all for geared if there is an ungeared one that is higher? Or does someone (chuck?) with a geared unicycle want to go out and set an hour record. The geared hour record is a joke - any bugger with a schlumpf and access to a flat loop could set that higher tomorrow - whereas the ungeared one is hard (although I presume chuck will beat it). Joe -- joemarshall ' old pics' (http://tinyurl.com/56yl2f) 'new zealand pics' (http://s119.photobucket.com/albums/o...rshall_photos/) 'new pics' (http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/joemarshall.org.uk) 'Where have I been riding? (GPS) ' (http://tinyurl.com/6fxw5x) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ joemarshall's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/1545 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/71871 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Future of Unicycle Road Racing (here's what I think; what do you think?)
siafirede wrote: How does a world record apply to the marathon if it is held on the road with variable terrain/elevation changes from year to year? Can't the course change a lot from year to year? That's an important point about records for off-track races (e.g., road races) that folks should keep in mind. I should have brought this up earlier, but I didn't want to disrupt the excellent discussion. In the road racing world, world records for the marathon were not officially recognized by the International Association of Athletic Federations (IAAF) until January 1, 2004. Previous to that time, there had been too much variance in courses and race rules. IAAF member federations developed a set of requirements that a road course has to meet in order to be eligible for the establishment of a world record. -- tadaniels ------------------------------------------------------------------------ tadaniels's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/352 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/71871 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Future of Unicycle Road Racing (here's what I think; what do you think?)
hectorqlucero wrote: It is not just the power and speed needed to spin the cranks it's also being able to do this without loosing balance and having the courage to do it. I'd certainly agree with that. Going fast on a unicycle has a lot to do with unicycling skill as well as physical strength and fitness. Obviously you've got to be fit as well to keep it up for any length of time, but actually being able to ride a unicycle fast at all is a skill that you don't need on a bicycle. I consider myself a fairly strong bicyclist (and tend to spin higher cadences than a lot of cyclists, rather than pushing a huge gear), but I can't go all that fast on a unicycle. On my coker I top out at 16mph in a "sprint" and usually average about 13 on a flat road if I'm trying to go fast. That speed isn't limited by strength, it's limited by the fact that I'm really not that good a unicyclist - any faster and I fall off (or at least feel very unstable). I can't get on with short cranks (they make my knees hurt, contrary to popular opinions, and don't make me any faster) and always ride 145s. That's pretty much shown by my 10km and marathon times last week at unicon: 28m40s for the 10km and 2h01m for the marathon (42km) - pretty much exactly the same average speed! In theory a guni should suit my bicycling background and help me go faster, but I find them _extremely_ hard to ride when I've borrowed them - the higher the gear the harder it is to stay on the things. I think Chuck deserves more credit than some people are giving him. He's using the gear that suits him, which shouldn't be called cheating. Like somebody mentioned, even in fixed gear track cycling you're allowed to pick the gear to suit you're body and technique. Put me on Chuck's unicycle and I wouldn't automatically beat the record, or even be any faster than on my normal 36er - I'd just fall off more. Rob -- rob.northcott ------------------------------------------------------------------------ rob.northcott's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/7436 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/71871 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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