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  #31  
Old January 1st 10, 02:16 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
The Medway Handyman
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Default We blocked traffic and went through red lights.

Doug wrote:
On 6 Dec, 08:10, Tom Crispin
wrote:
On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 22:05:48 -0800 (PST), Doug
wrote:

About 200 cyclists massed yesterday in Central London for a Climate
Emergency bike ride. Because they were accompanied by police on
bicycles and motorbikes they were allowed to cause congestion and go
through red lights. Additionally the police kept stopping the front
of the ride until the way ahead was clear which caused further
traffic hold ups. In comparison to Critical Mass, because of the
police presence no impatient drivers dared to try to intimidate
these vulnerable road users and there was no ramming or verbal
abuse this time and no sounding of horns.


If Critical Mass gave the police advance warning of their route they
too would be given a police escort.

I led a bike ride for 500 cyclists from Greenwich to the Tower of
London to join the Mayor of London's Skyride. I had 15 marshals
helping with the ride. We too blocked traffic at junctions to allow
safe passage for riders, but met with little animosity from drivers,
and certainly no ramming.

That's all very well but such 'authorised' rides do little to
illustrate the plight of the cyclist, who is treated as a second-class
road-user by many drivers.


Thats because they are second class road users.


--
Dave - the small piece of 14th century armour used to protect the armpit.


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  #32  
Old January 2nd 10, 07:02 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Doug[_3_]
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Default We blocked traffic and went through red lights.

On 1 Jan, 14:16, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote:
Doug wrote:
On 6 Dec, 08:10, Tom Crispin
wrote:
On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 22:05:48 -0800 (PST), Doug
wrote:


About 200 cyclists massed yesterday in Central London for a Climate
Emergency bike ride. Because they were accompanied by police on
bicycles and motorbikes they were allowed to cause congestion and go
through red lights. Additionally the police kept stopping the front
of the ride until the way ahead was clear which caused further
traffic hold ups. In comparison to Critical Mass, because of the
police presence no impatient drivers dared to try to intimidate
these vulnerable road users and there was no ramming or verbal
abuse this time and no sounding of horns.


If Critical Mass gave the police advance warning of their route they
too would be given a police escort.


I led a bike ride for 500 cyclists from Greenwich to the Tower of
London to join the Mayor of London's Skyride. I had 15 marshals
helping with the ride. We too blocked traffic at junctions to allow
safe passage for riders, but met with little animosity from drivers,
and certainly no ramming.


That's all very well but such 'authorised' rides do little to
illustrate the plight of the cyclist, who is treated as a second-class
road-user by many drivers.


Thats because they are second class road users.

I am glad you now recognise the problem and the inequity of it. It is
time this dominance of our roads by drivers, particularly motorists,
was ended and instead pedestrians and cyclists be restored to equal
access of our public roads without a considerable risk to their lives
from those highly privileged killer drivers.

--
UK Radical Campaigns
www.zing.icom43.net
A driving licence is a licence to kill.
  #33  
Old January 2nd 10, 09:45 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Tony Dragon
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Default We blocked traffic and went through red lights.

Doug wrote:
On 1 Jan, 14:16, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote:
Doug wrote:
On 6 Dec, 08:10, Tom Crispin
wrote:
On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 22:05:48 -0800 (PST), Doug
wrote:
About 200 cyclists massed yesterday in Central London for a Climate
Emergency bike ride. Because they were accompanied by police on
bicycles and motorbikes they were allowed to cause congestion and go
through red lights. Additionally the police kept stopping the front
of the ride until the way ahead was clear which caused further
traffic hold ups. In comparison to Critical Mass, because of the
police presence no impatient drivers dared to try to intimidate
these vulnerable road users and there was no ramming or verbal
abuse this time and no sounding of horns.
If Critical Mass gave the police advance warning of their route they
too would be given a police escort.
I led a bike ride for 500 cyclists from Greenwich to the Tower of
London to join the Mayor of London's Skyride. I had 15 marshals
helping with the ride. We too blocked traffic at junctions to allow
safe passage for riders, but met with little animosity from drivers,
and certainly no ramming.
That's all very well but such 'authorised' rides do little to
illustrate the plight of the cyclist, who is treated as a second-class
road-user by many drivers.

Thats because they are second class road users.

I am glad you now recognise the problem and the inequity of it. It is
time this dominance of our roads by drivers, particularly motorists,
was ended and instead pedestrians and cyclists be restored to equal
access of our public roads without a considerable risk to their lives
from those highly privileged killer drivers.

--
UK Radical Campaigns
www.zing.icom43.net
A driving licence is a licence to kill.


Meanwhile the rest of the drivers who are not 'highly privileged killer
drivers' will carry on in an orderly & considerate way.

--
Tony Dragon
  #34  
Old January 6th 10, 08:52 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Doug[_3_]
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Default We blocked traffic and went through red lights.

On 2 Jan, 09:45, Tony Dragon wrote:
Doug wrote:
On 1 Jan, 14:16, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote:
Doug wrote:
On 6 Dec, 08:10, Tom Crispin
wrote:
On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 22:05:48 -0800 (PST), Doug
wrote:
About 200 cyclists massed yesterday in Central London for a Climate
Emergency bike ride. Because they were accompanied by police on
bicycles and motorbikes they were allowed to cause congestion and go
through red lights. Additionally the police kept stopping the front
of the ride until the way ahead was clear which caused further
traffic hold ups. In comparison to Critical Mass, because of the
police presence no impatient drivers dared to try to intimidate
these vulnerable road users and there was no ramming or verbal
abuse this time and no sounding of horns.
If Critical Mass gave the police advance warning of their route they
too would be given a police escort.
I led a bike ride for 500 cyclists from Greenwich to the Tower of
London to join the Mayor of London's Skyride. I had 15 marshals
helping with the ride. We too blocked traffic at junctions to allow
safe passage for riders, but met with little animosity from drivers,
and certainly no ramming.
That's all very well but such 'authorised' rides do little to
illustrate the plight of the cyclist, who is treated as a second-class
road-user by many drivers.
Thats because they are second class road users.


I am glad you now recognise the problem and the inequity of it. It is
time this dominance of our roads by drivers, particularly motorists,
was ended and instead pedestrians and cyclists be restored to equal
access of our public roads without a considerable risk to their lives
from those highly privileged killer drivers.



Meanwhile the rest of the drivers who are not 'highly privileged killer
drivers' will carry on in an orderly & considerate way.

One can live in hope but any one of them can slip up in a fraction of
a second in any number of ways while travelling at 30mph or more and
thereby smash a vulnerable road users fatally, accidentally of course!

--
UK Radical Campaigns
www.zing.icom43.net
A driving licence is a licence to kill.

  #35  
Old January 6th 10, 09:45 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Tony Dragon
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Default We blocked traffic and went through red lights.

Doug wrote:
On 2 Jan, 09:45, Tony Dragon wrote:
Doug wrote:
On 1 Jan, 14:16, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote:
Doug wrote:
On 6 Dec, 08:10, Tom Crispin
wrote:
On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 22:05:48 -0800 (PST), Doug
wrote:
About 200 cyclists massed yesterday in Central London for a Climate
Emergency bike ride. Because they were accompanied by police on
bicycles and motorbikes they were allowed to cause congestion and go
through red lights. Additionally the police kept stopping the front
of the ride until the way ahead was clear which caused further
traffic hold ups. In comparison to Critical Mass, because of the
police presence no impatient drivers dared to try to intimidate
these vulnerable road users and there was no ramming or verbal
abuse this time and no sounding of horns.
If Critical Mass gave the police advance warning of their route they
too would be given a police escort.
I led a bike ride for 500 cyclists from Greenwich to the Tower of
London to join the Mayor of London's Skyride. I had 15 marshals
helping with the ride. We too blocked traffic at junctions to allow
safe passage for riders, but met with little animosity from drivers,
and certainly no ramming.
That's all very well but such 'authorised' rides do little to
illustrate the plight of the cyclist, who is treated as a second-class
road-user by many drivers.
Thats because they are second class road users.
I am glad you now recognise the problem and the inequity of it. It is
time this dominance of our roads by drivers, particularly motorists,
was ended and instead pedestrians and cyclists be restored to equal
access of our public roads without a considerable risk to their lives
from those highly privileged killer drivers.


Meanwhile the rest of the drivers who are not 'highly privileged killer
drivers' will carry on in an orderly & considerate way.

One can live in hope but any one of them can slip up in a fraction of
a second in any number of ways while travelling at 30mph or more and
thereby smash a vulnerable road users fatally, accidentally of course!

--
UK Radical Campaigns
www.zing.icom43.net
A driving licence is a licence to kill.


Indeed if they did 'slip up' it would be accidental.

--
Tony Dragon
  #36  
Old January 7th 10, 07:40 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Doug[_3_]
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Default We blocked traffic and went through red lights.

On 6 Jan, 09:45, Tony Dragon wrote:
Doug wrote:
On 2 Jan, 09:45, Tony Dragon wrote:
Doug wrote:
On 1 Jan, 14:16, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote:
Doug wrote:
On 6 Dec, 08:10, Tom Crispin
wrote:
On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 22:05:48 -0800 (PST), Doug
wrote:
About 200 cyclists massed yesterday in Central London for a Climate
Emergency bike ride. Because they were accompanied by police on
bicycles and motorbikes they were allowed to cause congestion and go
through red lights. Additionally the police kept stopping the front
of the ride until the way ahead was clear which caused further
traffic hold ups. In comparison to Critical Mass, because of the
police presence no impatient drivers dared to try to intimidate
these vulnerable road users and there was no ramming or verbal
abuse this time and no sounding of horns.
If Critical Mass gave the police advance warning of their route they
too would be given a police escort.
I led a bike ride for 500 cyclists from Greenwich to the Tower of
London to join the Mayor of London's Skyride. I had 15 marshals
helping with the ride. We too blocked traffic at junctions to allow
safe passage for riders, but met with little animosity from drivers,
and certainly no ramming.
That's all very well but such 'authorised' rides do little to
illustrate the plight of the cyclist, who is treated as a second-class
road-user by many drivers.
Thats because they are second class road users.
I am glad you now recognise the problem and the inequity of it. It is
time this dominance of our roads by drivers, particularly motorists,
was ended and instead pedestrians and cyclists be restored to equal
access of our public roads without a considerable risk to their lives
from those highly privileged killer drivers.


Meanwhile the rest of the drivers who are not 'highly privileged killer
drivers' will carry on in an orderly & considerate way.


One can live in hope but any one of them can slip up in a fraction of
a second in any number of ways while travelling at 30mph or more and
thereby smash a vulnerable road users fatally, accidentally of course!



Indeed if they did 'slip up' it would be accidental.

How else might they be vindicated from blame for taking a human life,
unless of course their vulnerable victim was blamed instead for
getting in their way?

--
UK Radical Campaigns
www.zing.icom43.net
A driving licence is a licence to kill.
  #37  
Old January 7th 10, 07:49 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
judith smith
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Default We blocked traffic and went through red lights.

On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 22:05:48 -0800 (PST), Doug
wrote:

About 200 cyclists massed yesterday in Central London for a Climate
Emergency bike ride. Because they were accompanied by police on
bicycles and motorbikes they were allowed to cause congestion and go
through red lights. Additionally the police kept stopping the front of
the ride until the way ahead was clear which caused further traffic
hold ups. In comparison to Critical Mass, because of the police
presence no impatient drivers dared to try to intimidate these
vulnerable road users and there was no ramming or verbal abuse this
time and no sounding of horns.



I am sorry I must have been a bit slow: I now think that you are
actually mentally ill.


  #38  
Old January 7th 10, 09:05 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Tony Dragon
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Default We blocked traffic and went through red lights.

Doug wrote:
On 6 Jan, 09:45, Tony Dragon wrote:
Doug wrote:
On 2 Jan, 09:45, Tony Dragon wrote:
Doug wrote:
On 1 Jan, 14:16, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote:
Doug wrote:
On 6 Dec, 08:10, Tom Crispin
wrote:
On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 22:05:48 -0800 (PST), Doug
wrote:
About 200 cyclists massed yesterday in Central London for a Climate
Emergency bike ride. Because they were accompanied by police on
bicycles and motorbikes they were allowed to cause congestion and go
through red lights. Additionally the police kept stopping the front
of the ride until the way ahead was clear which caused further
traffic hold ups. In comparison to Critical Mass, because of the
police presence no impatient drivers dared to try to intimidate
these vulnerable road users and there was no ramming or verbal
abuse this time and no sounding of horns.
If Critical Mass gave the police advance warning of their route they
too would be given a police escort.
I led a bike ride for 500 cyclists from Greenwich to the Tower of
London to join the Mayor of London's Skyride. I had 15 marshals
helping with the ride. We too blocked traffic at junctions to allow
safe passage for riders, but met with little animosity from drivers,
and certainly no ramming.
That's all very well but such 'authorised' rides do little to
illustrate the plight of the cyclist, who is treated as a second-class
road-user by many drivers.
Thats because they are second class road users.
I am glad you now recognise the problem and the inequity of it. It is
time this dominance of our roads by drivers, particularly motorists,
was ended and instead pedestrians and cyclists be restored to equal
access of our public roads without a considerable risk to their lives
from those highly privileged killer drivers.
Meanwhile the rest of the drivers who are not 'highly privileged killer
drivers' will carry on in an orderly & considerate way.
One can live in hope but any one of them can slip up in a fraction of
a second in any number of ways while travelling at 30mph or more and
thereby smash a vulnerable road users fatally, accidentally of course!


Indeed if they did 'slip up' it would be accidental.

How else might they be vindicated from blame for taking a human life,
unless of course their vulnerable victim was blamed instead for
getting in their way?

--
UK Radical Campaigns
www.zing.icom43.net
A driving licence is a licence to kill.


You used the words, not me.

--
Tony Dragon
 




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