Cyclist wins against London Tube.

Another one of those transport challenges, this time tube vs. bike.

http://road.cc/content/news/12550-lo...-tube-and-wins


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In article ,
Simon Mason wrote:
Another one of those transport challenges, this time tube vs. bike.
http://road.cc/content/news/12550-lo...-tube-and-wins

It's nice to see bikes being faster, generally held as gospel by
cyclists, being empirically demonstrated once again.

Selection of starting and ending points for this kind of thing is
obviously critical for the results. In this case all the tube
journeys involved a change, whereas many real tube journeys don't, but
of course all the journeys started and ended at tube stops which is
also unrealistic. I'm not sure how to do better.

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Simon Mason wrote:
Another one of those transport challenges, this time tube vs. bike.

http://road.cc/content/news/12550-lo...-tube-and-wins

I'm heartened to read that Andreas did the challenge wearing ordinary
clothes. Some of these challenges seem rather contrived and don't
factor in time spent changing clothes and taking a shower after
sprinting across London.

When I lived in London in the 90's I didn't dare cycle to work - I
wasn't fit enough to dodge all the traffic.

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On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 14:02:00 -0000, "Simon Mason"
wrote:

Another one of those transport challenges, this time tube vs. bike.

http://road.cc/content/news/12550-lo...-tube-and-wins

Why are cyclists obsessed by journey times?

Was the person on the tube in any danger of the actions of other road
users?

(Please **** rather than try to introduce bombs to the discussion)

On 07 Jan 2010 16:06:41 +0000 (GMT), Ian Jackson
wrote:

In article ,
Simon Mason wrote:
Another one of those transport challenges, this time tube vs. bike.
http://road.cc/content/news/12550-lo...-tube-and-wins

It's nice to see bikes being faster, generally held as gospel by
cyclists, being empirically demonstrated once again.


Indeed - and by that totally impartial "reporter" : blogger Andreas
Kambanis of www.londoncyclist.co.uk

Simon Mason wrote:
Another one of those transport challenges, this time tube vs. bike.

http://road.cc/content/news/12550-lo...-tube-and-wins

Typical cyclo**** bollox. No factoring in the need to change trains in
order to fudge the figures, deliberate choice of routes to bias the outcome,
no factoring in the need to change & shower after all that sweaty cycling -
when he could have been in a comfy seat reading a good book.

What a load of old bollox. Just goes to show what a sad prat he must be.


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Judith Smith wrote:
Why are cyclists obsessed by journey times?

Not all of share that obsession.

Was the person on the tube in any danger of the actions of other road
users?

No, but the lack of exercise could bring on early cardiac failure and death!

(Please **** rather than try to introduce bombs to the discussion)

Go "****" yourself, please. Bombs are inevitably going to be part of
any discussion about the perceived or actual risks in using the London
Underground in this day & age.

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"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message
om...
Simon Mason wrote:
Another one of those transport challenges, this time tube vs. bike.

http://road.cc/content/news/12550-lo...-tube-and-wins

Typical cyclo**** bollox. No factoring in the need to change trains in
order to fudge the figures, deliberate choice of routes to bias the
outcome, no factoring in the need to change & shower after all that sweaty
cycling - when he could have been in a comfy seat reading a good book.

Exactly the same result as when the same challenge was on Top Gear, which
last time I watched had that well known "cyclo****" Jeremy Clarkson
presenting it!

http://www.bikeradar.com/news/articl...ear-race-13142

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"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message
om...
Simon Mason wrote:
Another one of those transport challenges, this time tube vs. bike.

http://road.cc/content/news/12550-lo...-tube-and-wins

Typical cyclo**** bollox. No factoring in the need to change trains in
order to fudge the figures, deliberate choice of routes to bias the
outcome, no factoring in the need to change & shower after all that sweaty
cycling - when he could have been in a comfy seat reading a good book.

What a load of old bollox. Just goes to show what a sad prat he must be.

Changing and showering is generally considered a good thing although I
accept there are a number of smelly tradesmen who fail to do this often
enough.

Tube train seats were never very comfortable. If you travel at peak times
you will not get one anyway and even if you did you would have someone's
arse in your face.

People read on the tube so that they do not need to look at or communicate
with other passengers.

Give me a bike ride any day. Even in snow.

On 8 Jan, 11:44, "mileburner" wrote:
"The Medway Handyman" wrote in media.com...

Simon Mason wrote:
Another one of those transport challenges, this time tube vs. bike.

http://road.cc/content/news/12550-lo...r-takes-tube-a....

Typical cyclo**** bollox. *No factoring in the need to change trains in
order to fudge the figures, deliberate choice of routes to bias the
outcome, no factoring in the need to change & shower after all that sweaty
cycling - when he could have been in a comfy seat reading a good book.

What a load of old bollox. *Just goes to show what a sad prat he must be.

Changing and showering is generally considered a good thing although I
accept there are a number of smelly tradesmen who fail to do this often
enough.

I get showered at home before I set off for work, which is exactly the
same as if I drove there.
I never get sweaty when riding anyway, certainly not in this weather.

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