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So ... anyone going this year?
I tried to get out of it, but it looks like I am going. R |
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MattB wrote: My neighbor, Dan, will have the big yellow MavicMobile and lots of wheels for demo rides. I'm sure they're nice wheels. But... What's the point in demoing a wheel? CC |
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Corvus Corvax wrote:
MattB wrote: My neighbor, Dan, will have the big yellow MavicMobile and lots of wheels for demo rides. I'm sure they're nice wheels. But... What's the point in demoing a wheel? CC I've wondered that myself, but you'll have to ask Dan. Matt |
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Corvus Corvax wrote: MattB wrote: My neighbor, Dan, will have the big yellow MavicMobile and lots of wheels for demo rides. I'm sure they're nice wheels. But... What's the point in demoing a wheel? CC If you were trying to sell a wheel, how would you do it? (Beyond hyperbole and a whole bunch of carbon tape?) If you were considering purchasing a prebuilt set (not that you would), wouldn't you like to know if it was going to rub your brake pads every time you put some muscle into it? And if you were Mavic, wouldn't you want your customers to experience a perfectly tuned version of their product? /s |
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Scott Gordo wrote: What's the point in demoing a wheel? If you were trying to sell a wheel, how would you do it? (Beyond hyperbole and a whole bunch of carbon tape?) Chicks with big tits. If you were considering purchasing a prebuilt set (not that you would), wouldn't you like to know if it was going to rub your brake pads every time you put some muscle into it? My understanding is that things like brake rub are completely dominated by frame flex. Maybe somebody with more expertise in the engineering aspects of wheels can confirm this, but I would think that any wheel which was even basically functional could be approximated as being infinitely stiff in this regard. The thing which really differentiates one wheel from another is the quality of the build, i.e. durability. (Gordo, know you know this.) Presumably, any brand-new wheel is going to be perfectly true, but things like even spoke tension and stress relief are not going to be obvious from a demo. Nor will Mavic's unfortunate tendency to have bits of the weld break off inside the wheel and make a benign, but annoying "click, click" with rotation of the wheel. But I digress. The bottom line is that a demo tells you nothing about build quality. The only think I can think of that a demo might shed light on, besides simply weight, would be hub engagement. Keep in mind that this is coming from a handbuilt-32-3X-butted-stainless-spokes-with brass-nipples retrogrouch. (Gordo, I know you also know this ;-). And if you were Mavic, wouldn't you want your customers to experience a perfectly tuned version of their product? Oh, totally! I'm sure they get all sorts of people coming back from their demos raving about how "stiff" and "responsive" the wheels are, which makes about as much sense as raving about how "round" they are. The smart money is in staying back at the tent and talking to the chicks with big tits. CC |
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Corvus Corvax wrote:
Scott Gordo wrote: If you were trying to sell a wheel, how would you do it? (Beyond hyperbole and a whole bunch of carbon tape?) Chicks with big tits. I'll take two. (No wonder they come in pairs.) |
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Corvus Corvax wrote:
Scott Gordo wrote: What's the point in demoing a wheel? If you were trying to sell a wheel, how would you do it? (Beyond hyperbole and a whole bunch of carbon tape?) Chicks with big tits. If you were considering purchasing a prebuilt set (not that you would), wouldn't you like to know if it was going to rub your brake pads every time you put some muscle into it? My understanding is that things like brake rub are completely dominated by frame flex. Maybe somebody with more expertise in the engineering aspects of wheels can confirm this, but I would think that any wheel which was even basically functional could be approximated as being infinitely stiff in this regard. The thing which really differentiates one wheel from another is the quality of the build, i.e. durability. (Gordo, know you know this.) Presumably, any brand-new wheel is going to be perfectly true, but things like even spoke tension and stress relief are not going to be obvious from a demo. Nor will Mavic's unfortunate tendency to have bits of the weld break off inside the wheel and make a benign, but annoying "click, click" with rotation of the wheel. But I digress. The bottom line is that a demo tells you nothing about build quality. The only think I can think of that a demo might shed light on, besides simply weight, would be hub engagement. Keep in mind that this is coming from a handbuilt-32-3X-butted-stainless-spokes-with brass-nipples retrogrouch. (Gordo, I know you also know this ;-). And if you were Mavic, wouldn't you want your customers to experience a perfectly tuned version of their product? Oh, totally! I'm sure they get all sorts of people coming back from their demos raving about how "stiff" and "responsive" the wheels are, which makes about as much sense as raving about how "round" they are. The smart money is in staying back at the tent and talking to the chicks with big tits. I think those chicks are in the Marzocchi tent. Sometimes Mrs Dan comes and hands out fliers, but she's more of a cyclist than a bikini model. I've never demoed a wheelset but I /might/ if I wanted to see if something like a tubeless set felt as spry as my other wheels, for example. Matt |
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