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fatal kiddie path incident
On Tue, 23 Jul 2019 06:32:29 -0700 (PDT), Frank Krygowski
wrote: On Tuesday, July 23, 2019 at 1:16:29 AM UTC-4, Tosspot wrote: On 23/07/2019 00:38, John B. Slocomb wrote: On Mon, 22 Jul 2019 20:24:59 +0200, Tosspot wrote: On 22/07/2019 15:04, AMuzi wrote: https://www.channel3000.com/news/med...ona/1097947558 That is brilliant reporting. Made me chuckle. Yes, "Officials say the bicyclist was wearing a helmet and was pronounced dead at the scene". As opposed to the frequently read account that "the cyclist was pronounced dead and was not wearing a helmet". Is this an implication that helmets do not protect the cyclist :-? No, it's an implication that Ford Escapes work better than helmets :-) "The driver of the Ford Escape was uninjured". One of our club's top mileage cyclists was injured on a "kiddie path" about a week ago. The path has a crushed limestone surface. Apparently she swerved to miss a bollard, went off the edge of the trail and crashed. She got a concussion, bad enough that she didn't remember what happened, didn't remember her name, was taken to ER etc. (but is apparently fine now). I'm sure that many club members are saying "See? If she didn't have her helmet she'd have been worse!" But: It's now known that cyclist concussions have risen over 60% since helmets have become popular. And helmet promoters are now saying that helmets can't be effective against concussions - that they're really to protect against other injuries. Given the failure of helmets, perhaps this rider would have been better off never leaving the "safety" of her car? - Frank Krygowski I find the whole subjects of bicycle helmets and safety to be, at best, ludicrous. Some time ago in one of innumerable discussions of bile helmets someone stated the two major points he felt important in selecting a helmet we (1) that the helmet was cool to wear, and (2) that the helmet was light to wear. I also find that there are helmet standards for British National Hunt horse racing for at least the past 30 or so years that are designed to safeguard a jockey when racing at ~30 mph over 4.5 foot "fences" and are also designed to protect the wearer who's head comes in contact with objects with sharp points, like horse shoes when one is kicked in the head. So when the idea that a bicycle helmet might protect someone do they take an existing proven design and perhaps down scale it a bit, Nope, they build a Styrofoam hat with a lot of big holes and test it at 14 mph and that is good enough. -- Cheers, John B. |
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fatal kiddie path incident
On Tue, 23 Jul 2019 19:00:37 +0200, Tosspot
wrote: On 23/07/2019 15:32, Frank Krygowski wrote: On Tuesday, July 23, 2019 at 1:16:29 AM UTC-4, Tosspot wrote: On 23/07/2019 00:38, John B. Slocomb wrote: On Mon, 22 Jul 2019 20:24:59 +0200, Tosspot wrote: On 22/07/2019 15:04, AMuzi wrote: https://www.channel3000.com/news/med...ona/1097947558 That is brilliant reporting. Made me chuckle. Yes, "Officials say the bicyclist was wearing a helmet and was pronounced dead at the scene". As opposed to the frequently read account that "the cyclist was pronounced dead and was not wearing a helmet". Is this an implication that helmets do not protect the cyclist :-? No, it's an implication that Ford Escapes work better than helmets :-) "The driver of the Ford Escape was uninjured". One of our club's top mileage cyclists was injured on a "kiddie path" about a week ago. The path has a crushed limestone surface. Apparently she swerved to miss a bollard, went off the edge of the trail and crashed. She got a concussion, bad enough that she didn't remember what happened, didn't remember her name, was taken to ER etc. (but is apparently fine now). I'm sure that many club members are saying "See? If she didn't have her helmet she'd have been worse!" But: It's now known that cyclist concussions have risen over 60% since helmets have become popular. And helmet promoters are now saying that helmets can't be effective against concussions - that they're really to protect against other injuries. Given the failure of helmets, perhaps this rider would have been better off never leaving the "safety" of her car? This exactly my gripe, if you think they are effective, then you'd use one for walking! Take a look at what the downhillers are wearing these days, they are closer and closer to a motorbike helmet, which might actually work. https://www.cnet.com/news/brain-surg...cycle-helmets/ I believe that the usual terms used with bicycle helmets is that "they may protect you" :-) -- Cheers, John B. |
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